Believe in science & ethics
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And do I have to repeat Implicit proving and Explicit proving methodologies, which repeatedly you show you know nothing of?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Use science to inform on something is "to insist on using Science on EVERYTHING"? I have to conclude that you are a grossly stupid idiot because we have covered this and yet you repeat it without coming up, again, with anything to show why we cannot use science to inform on something.
As I said, you lost because you don't know what you are arguing about, and you have so many vague impressions of Science, that you cause a lot of shame to the actual pro-Science INTELLIGENT people here.
Not a single actual understanding of Science, just vague arguments.
Empty vessels indeed make the most noise
Go away lah. You have neither the ability nor the credibility in this thread.
Just a RUDE and OBNOXIOUS behavior with the UNETHICAL behavior of insulting others.
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Ibram have shown understanding in Physics and Philosophy
Daddy!! has shown understanding in Physics and many general areas of Science
Herzog has shown he understands Astronomy pretty well
LazerLordz has shown he knows a lot about the deeper concepts of Physics
I have shown knowledge of Logic Mathematics and Astronomy
Monkey Andrew,
besides calling others stupid and pretending to support Science by arguing with so many vague statements, you have shown a CLEAR lack of knowledge in Science.
Go ahead and show us what you know in a field of Science, or you are nothing but an empty vessel.
ZERO knowledge in Science and ZERO ethics in your behavior. A total failure to society, and a valid case why annuities must be made compulsory coz there are indeed people who need the govt to spoonfeed them. -
You think that you can simply say that "it is obvious to me" "it is implicit to me" "I do not need to show proof, and evidence"? You think you are discussing maths theorems? Are you so delusional plus too stupid to know that Implicit and Explicit deductions work only in mathematics.Originally posted by soul_rage:And do I have to repeat Implicit proving and Explicit proving methodologies, which repeatedly you show you know nothing of?
As I said, you lost because you don't know what you are arguing about, and you have so many vague impressions of Science, that you cause a lot of shame to the actual pro-Science INTELLIGENT people here.
Not a single actual understanding of Science, just vague arguments.
Empty vessels indeed make the most noise
Go away lah. You don't neither the ability nor the credibility in this thread.
It is no wonder that you are so delusional. You actually believe that the thoughts in your head are implicitly and explicitly proven without the need for examination and verification? You actually believe that the thoughts in people heads are implicitly or explicitly true and correct?
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This is a most exciting discovery. I never knew that there are people stupid and delusional to this kind of level.
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come leh... say some more leh.. you are opening my eyes to see how stupid and to what level people's stupidity can sink. You are showing me unique ways how people can be stupid. This is very exciting.
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ZERO knowledge in Science and ZERO ethics in Andrew's behavior. A total failure to society, and a valid case why annuities must be made compulsory coz there are indeed people who need the govt to spoonfeed them.
The truth is out here for all to see. He can post and post and post, but he can't remove the fact that he has displayed zero knowledge and horrible ethics.
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do you think whether the stock market will rally further into Christmas? -
Nothing to say and back to calling names...Originally posted by soul_rage:ZERO knowledge in Science and ZERO ethics in Andrew's behavior. A total failure to society, and a valid case why annuities must be made compulsory coz there are indeed people who need the govt to spoonfeed them.
The truth is out here for all to see. He can post and post and post, but he can't remove the fact that he has displayed zero knowledge and horrible ethics.
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if you can't take up the challenge and show an actual knowledge of Science,Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:come leh... say some more leh.. you are opening my eyes to see how stupid and to what level people's stupidity can sink. You are showing me unique ways how people can be stupid. This is very exciting.
then you are nothing but an empty vessel. Its just that simple. *shrugs*
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Good idea to talk something else, coz I just got bored putting the zero-brained monkey back in his place.Originally posted by Daddy!!:do you think whether the stock market will rally further into Christmas?
Personally I think the stock market will continue to rally till the end of 2007 at least. The subprime market issue isn't too bad, and given the Fed's move, I think nerves are calmed for the moment.
Plus, Singapore stocks seem to be able to establish their performance even if US isn't doing well of late, which is something to cheer about.
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i agree with you. The US Presidential Script suggests that S&P500 should end the year at around 1650.Originally posted by soul_rage:Good idea to talk something else, coz I just got bored putting the zero-brained monkey back in his place.
Personally I think the stock market will continue to rally till the end of 2007 at least. The subprime market issue isn't too bad, and given the Fed's move, I think nerves are calmed for the moment.
Plus, Singapore stocks seem to be able to establish their performance even if US isn't doing well of late, which is something to cheer about.
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But caution about complacency. I watch my stocks balloon by 70% within one month, but I am cautious because these days the markets are pretty sensitive. One bad news in one major region and it can cause turbulence through the entire global marketOriginally posted by Daddy!!:i agree with you. The US Presidential Script suggests that S&P500 should end the year at around 1650.
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i just sent you the quantitative evidence about the US Presidential script. I am not advocating big risk taking lar.Originally posted by soul_rage:But caution about complacency. I watch my stocks balloon by 70% within one month, but I am cautious because these days the markets are pretty sensitive. One bad news in one major region and it can cause turbulence through the entire global market
am not sure about 2008 though. I still feel that the global market is now in a bit of a bubble stage.
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Thanks good read.Originally posted by Daddy!!:i just sent you the quantitative evidence about the US Presidential script. I am not advocating big risk taking lar.
wah, +70% in one month? must be Hang Seng !
I am contemplating consolidation of cash before year end.
Anyway I was partly lucky, found a few super stocks that were underperforming and now they are ballooning by many % points in terms of price increase on average every week. -
too bad it is not possible to attach a file. so can only copy paste. but the main message is clear. for your info, the quantitative research letter was released in late july / early august.Originally posted by soul_rage:Thanks good read.
I am contemplating consolidation of cash before year end.
Anyway I was partly lucky, found a few super stocks that were underperforming and now they are ballooning by many % points in terms of price increase on average every week.
generally, people sort of think that the next two to five years are the only opportunity to "make it" because there after, we get prolonged recession. I wonder how these guys get this idea from. any comment or research to talk about this? -
Actually I beg to differ. Recession is a time when the next wave of potential millionaires will be borned. Recession is the best time when you can buy expensive items on a cheap.Originally posted by Daddy!!:too bad it is not possible to attach a file. so can only copy paste. but the main message is clear. for your info, the quantitative research letter was released in late july / early august.
generally, people sort of think that the next two to five years are the only opportunity to "make it" because there after, we get prolonged recession. I wonder how these guys get this idea from. any comment or research to talk about this?
The way to do that is to be ready to pounce on opportunities when the time arrives. So the time now is to consolidate until the next recession.
For those who haven't make it and expect to make it in the next 2 to 5 years, my opinion is its too late to jump on the bandwagon right now. Rather than jumping on a train that is running faster and faster until it may be going too fast and may derail anytime, I rather wait till it derails, and when it starts up again (slower speed), to jump onto it. -
you have a "range trading" investment philosophy and think that at current high prices, it is more prudent to wait for a correction before contemplating new purchases.Originally posted by soul_rage:Actually I beg to differ. Recession is a time when the next wave of potential millionaires will be borned. Recession is the best time when you can buy expensive items on a cheap.
The way to do that is to be ready to pounce on opportunities when the time arrives. So the time now is to consolidate until the next recession.
For those who haven't make it and expect to make it in the next 2 to 5 years, my opinion is its too late to jump on the bandwagon right now. Rather than jumping on a train that is running faster and faster until it may be going too fast and may derail anytime, I rather wait till it derails, and when it starts up again (slower speed), to jump onto it.
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interesting. Yes I think I am considered pretty flexible in my investment philosophyOriginally posted by Daddy!!:you have a "range trading" investment philosophy and think that at current high prices, it is more prudent to wait for a correction before contemplating new purchases.
this is logical thinking.
I have a 25 gain/8 loss rule, but I may not adhere to it if I see enough evidence an investment will grow more than that
I still do buy in selected investments in this high priced market, though its only for short term investment purposes
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the hang seng - nikkei 225 spread is extremely big by looking at the historical data. So this spread should narrow back in. Given a bullish outlook for equities, i would view a long nikkei 225 as a relatively good short term strategy.Originally posted by soul_rage:interesting. Yes I think I am considered pretty flexible in my investment philosophy
I have a 25 gain/8 loss rule, but I may not adhere to it if I see enough evidence an investment will grow more than that
I still do buy in selected investments in this high priced market, though its only for short term investment purposes
so what are your views on the horizon for the next few years?
for next few years, it depends on how the equity markets play out.
I think buy and hold strategy works best when one starts buying during recession times (sounds like talking c.ock) , ha ha!! -
hey there Andrew, have u tried listening to the song "Boogie Wonderland"? Nice right? -
Don't be personal,pls.Don't be insulting also.Originally posted by Daddy!!:monkey Andrew said "If there is no proof or evidence, its delusional" "
monkey Andrew also said "They must use science to inform on their ethical and moral decisions instead of using delusions and illusions to make those decisions."
Ibram Gaunt said: "Science (as I have mentioned before) is one of the best tools available to mankind in studying natural phenomenon. But to try and apply it to other less "naturalistic"; areas like politics, ethics, religion, social values, etc would most likely bring about less than satisfying results. "
(human) said : "Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance. -W.Clement Stone"
I said "scientists do not exclude things they dont know as superstitions, they KIV the phenomena and try to explore possibilities by using currently available technology. Only monkey excludes things he does not know as superstitions. ha ha!"
Monkey Andrew as most monkeys do, will not be able to understand.
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Piteous Christians pls don't read my msg below because you may feel offended or it may affect your belief.
According to the Bible,God created the uninverse.1st day,he created ....The 7th day, God rested.Is the description true & believable?But Christians believe it and some ppl can even argue that it is scientific.
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He who knows best knows how little he knows. -Thomas jefferson
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He who doesn't know but thinks he does, has lots of delusion in his head - Andrew PK Yap
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I suppose you believe in Evolution...that life begins from an accidental mix of atoms and molecules...that somehow evolved into single cell life form and progressed to become complex organisms and finally fish, mammals, and us...Originally posted by PRP:Piteous Christians pls don't read my msg below because you may feel offended or it may affect your belief.
According to the Bible,God created the uninverse.1st day,he created ....The 7th day, God rested.Is the description true & believable?But Christians believe it and some ppl can even argue that it is scientific.
Surely it is not scientific!Everybody can judge for themselves.
Now...have scientists actually found solid proof of this Theory of Evolution? Even Darwin admitted it was just a hyphothesis...and till today, it has yet to be proven to be absolutely true...there are simply too many holes in the theory. But many just accepted it to be true because it is in the science textbooks.
So don't you sit up there with your pseudo-intelletual snobbishness and label Christians "piteous" when you yourself does not really understand the science that you worship.
No, your lame argument did not affect my belief. You thin too highly of yourself.