More foreigners taking up Singapore citizenship (Part II)
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if there are more foreigners taking up singapore citizenship as TS state..the gahmen wouldn't really have that much to worry bout the population for the future...wud they..?
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... just another painting in their gallery of paintings...Originally posted by 4getmenot:if there are more foreigners taking up singapore citizenship as TS state..the gahmen wouldn't really have that much to worry bout the population for the future...wud they..? -
Just like some ppl here thinks that S'pore is a lousy place to live.... what makes any of you think that the locals of some other countries doesn't think the same
Do any of you believes that in the USA, EVERYONE is HAPPY & CONTENT
What makes you happy, doesn't means it will make another person happy.
What is important to you, might means nothing to me....
What you hate about S'pore, some other ppl might like....
It is sooo naive to think that everyone in this world share the same Like & Dislike in this world just like you..... -
I wonder how many singaporeana actually utilizes their political freedom when they are overseas and outside SGforums..
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Mmm..... good question.Originally posted by Gazelle:I wonder how many singaporeana actually utilizes their political freedom when they are overseas and outside SGforums.. 
Another good question is how many of them would just quit their Job and 'ENJOY' the wonderful welfare of their host country....
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Malaysian is similar to us in many aspect such as culture as Spore is used to be part of the federation.Originally posted by Gazelle:I dont consider Indonesian and Malaysian to be foreigners because our culture are just too similar and geographically too close.
Singapore is such a small country and we have internet forums such as SC who criticise the Gov 24/7, do you have reasons to believe that anybody who are taking up citizenship in Singapore are by accident and not because they like the place for what it is?
As far as indonesian is concerned, many people I know actually admire LKY ways of managing the country and their dream has always to turn Jakarta into something similar to Singapore.
I remember there is one thing which the Indonesian govt implemented the three in one in which three people must be in car to enter Jakarta CBD equivalent to Spore ERP. Unfortunately it never really work. -
I remember about the PR serving NS. I met one preenlistee also from Indonesia going to CMPB to register for NS. While chatting about NS, heOriginally posted by maurizio13:Aren't we there already?
mentioned he going to inform CMPB he will be giving up his PR as not to serve NS. -
Mayb it still not achieved the target.Originally posted by 4getmenot:if there are more foreigners taking up singapore citizenship as TS state..the gahmen wouldn't really have that much to worry bout the population for the future...wud they..? -
Maybe.... just maybe, the S'pore Govt is also worry that S'pore would only be filled by PRs..... but since the local are not having enough babies, they have not choice but to 'import' ppl in the short terms.Originally posted by will4:Mayb it still not achieved the target.
If any PRs rather give up their PRs than to serve their NS..... it is fully up to that person. Better that S'pore loss a PR now, then to keep one who is not intersted in staying in S'pore. Each person have a choice to his/her own life. I don't think it is wrong at all for anyone who wants to migrate or give up their citizenship..... Just plan carefully before you do. -
Originally posted by hloc:
The idea of making PR pay more for medical n education is a sign to force PR to be citizen of this country. Will this move made PR stay or go?
Maybe.... just maybe, the S'pore Govt is also worry that S'pore would only be filled by PRs..... but since the local are not having enough babies, they have not choice but to 'import' ppl in the short terms.
If any PRs rather give up their PRs than to serve their NS..... it is fully up to that person. Better that S'pore loss a PR now, then to keep one who is not intersted in staying in S'pore. Each person have a choice to his/her own life. I don't think it is wrong at all for anyone who wants to migrate or give up their citizenship..... [b]Just plan carefully before you do.[/b] -
Something just strike me, if you recall not too long ago LKY commented about minority in Malaysia being marginalized. I believe he is saying it intentionally to create some sort of tension in Malaysia and indonesia so that Chinese in both countries will consider moving to Singapore.Originally posted by will4:The idea of making PR pay more for medical n education is a sign to force PR to be citizen of this country. Will this move made PR stay or go?
thats just my opinion, dont shoot me hor...
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What he said is true for Chinese Indonesian but I cannot comment on the treatment for Chinese Malaysian.Originally posted by Gazelle:Something just strike me, if you recall not too long ago LKY commented about minority in Malaysia being marginalized. I believe he is saying it intentionally to create some sort of tension in Malaysia and indonesia so that Chinese in both countries will consider moving to Singapore.
thats just my opinion, dont shoot me hor...
The discrmination for Chinese Indonesian during New Order.
1) To adopt the Indonesian surname for Chinese Indonesian.
2) No open celebration of CNY as it is prohibited.
3) Chinese languages cannot be taught.
4) Soem trades not opened to minority. -
As someone earlier who has rightly pointed out: Singapore is a good place to work but not a good place to stay.Originally posted by will4:The idea of making PR pay more for medical n education is a sign to force PR to be citizen of this country. Will this move made PR stay or go?
What is the percentage of PRs converting to citizenships anyway? Many do treat this place as a stepping stone to far better destinations in the future. Some do settle down here. But who are we to blame them?
Singaporeans ourselves do look for greener pastuers in other countries. The lucky ones get headhunted to work in far off countries. While others cast their fears aside and uproot their families overseas in search of a better future. That's the trend of globalisation. -
These question is best answered by the PR themselves.....Originally posted by will4:The idea of making PR pay more for medical n education is a sign to force PR to be citizen of this country. Will this move made PR stay or go?
If you planned to leave the moment S'pore no longer could give you the same benefit as before..... would making you stay benefit S'pore
If PR have the same benefits as Citizens...... Why would the Citizens wants to remain as one Enough Citizens here have question why the Govt is 'treating' foreginer (PR, Expat... etc) better..... therefore would the local S'poreans be 'happy' if the PRs have the same medical & education Benfits
Therefore I support the difference in benefits... or lack of benefits.... between S'pore Citizens & Non-Citizens (PRs, Expat... etc). f not..... why should i stay as a S'porean 
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It seemed the govt is announcing the no of foreigners becoming citizen but it has announced the no of local going abroad or renouncing their citizenship.Originally posted by Croaking_Toad:As someone earlier who has rightly pointed out: Singapore is a good place to work but not a good place to stay.
What is the percentage of PRs converting to citizenships anyway? Many do treat this place as a stepping stone to far better destinations in the future. Some do settle down here. But who are we to blame them?
Singaporeans ourselves do look for greener pastuers in other countries. The lucky ones get headhunted to work in far off countries. While others cast their fears aside and uproot their families overseas in search of a better future. That's the trend of globalisation. -
I noticed that these are more for the big cooperations and MNCs. What's in it for our SMEs?Originally posted by Gazelle:Sure, the income tax itself will be the first to start with, the singapore brand itself is next, plus the stability of this country will also means that people will be more willing to take risk, and the connectivity of singaporea as a shipping and aviation hub, and not to forget the FTAs singapore has established to give us some added avantage, and the strong supporting industry will also mean setting up manufacturing or trading business will be an ease. And of course the financial hub, tourism, MICE industry etc, will also mean more opportunity for service industry.
The ball is now at your court, please qualify your statement. -
Originally posted by hloc:
Welfare is a safety net. One should never rely on state welfare alone. Do you really think someone will quit a SGD 7000 (example) to get SGD 500 welfare?
Mmm..... good question.
[b]Another good question is how many of them would just quit their Job and 'ENJOY' the wonderful welfare of their host country.... [/b] -
You notice what you notice is because you havent been noticing what is going on in singapore.Originally posted by bangkokboy:I noticed that these are more for the big cooperations and MNCs. What's in it for our SMEs? -
I agreed in here lifestyle is peaceful but u can never strike a fortune.
During the May 1998 riot in Indonesia, a lot of Chinese Indonesian
escaped to other countries including here but shortly after that, many of them started to go back to Indonesia. -
If you value your life & your familes ones more than $$$.... then of course S'pore is better. But if $$$ is more important, then you will have to take risk. But it could be just as unsafe in S'pore.Originally posted by will4:I agreed in here lifestyle is peaceful but u can never strike a fortune.
During the May 1998 riot in Indonesia, a lot of Chinese Indonesian
escaped to other countries including here but shortly after that, many of them started to go back to Indonesia.
I, myself, prefer a peaceful life.... then one fill with excitiment. Maybe getting old already... hehehe. -
Same with 1997 Hong Kong handover, I have some relatives who migrated to Singapore. But a few years after the handover, he went back to Hong Kong to work, because he said it's easier to make money in Hong Kong than Singapore.Originally posted by will4:I agreed in here lifestyle is peaceful but u can never strike a fortune.
During the May 1998 riot in Indonesia, a lot of Chinese Indonesian
escaped to other countries including here but shortly after that, many of them started to go back to Indonesia. -
it's just like Australia now are populated with Asians.
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The similary thing about HK n Spore is there is political stability.Originally posted by maurizio13:Same with 1997 Hong Kong handover, I have some relatives who migrated to Singapore. But a few years after the handover, he went back to Hong Kong to work, because he said it's easier to make money in Hong Kong than Singapore.
Indonesian also like Malaysian attracted by higher currency came to here to
work, if u noticed last time plenty of Malaysian working in Spore. Indonesian also following suit. U go around Shenton, observe the no of foreign professionals. -
I want to point out for Indonesian. Working in this country will make our resume look very good though.
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Does anyone here feel that citizenship here is easy to get? anyone who can find a job here seems to qualify as ft and that means can be PR and that means can be citizen? is it? And can apply and get it in such short time?Originally posted by sg mata:our ppl wanna migrate, they wanna come in......
Wow, is it much easier than Australia, USA and anywhere else in the world?
I wonder...
If so, what does this mean about this citizenship? i wonder again...