More foreigners taking up Singapore citizenship (Part II)
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Singapore has become a magnet for rejects for migrants intending to migrate to 1st world country. Take a ride on the MRT anytime and you will see the quality of foreign talents that Singapore is attracting. The kind of migrants we attract are PRC, Indian, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Thai, etc....... maybe the occasional filthy rich westerners or the misinformed westerners.Originally posted by reddressman:Does anyone here feel that citizenship here is easy to get? anyone who can find a job here seems to qualify as ft and that means can be PR and that means can be citizen? is it? And can apply and get it in such short time?
Wow, is it much easier than Australia, USA and anywhere else in the world?
I wonder...
If so, what does this mean about this citizenship? i wonder again... -
thats the same everywhere and it all depends on which kind of skills or labour the country is lacking.Originally posted by reddressman:Does anyone here feel that citizenship here is easy to get? anyone who can find a job here seems to qualify as ft and that means can be PR and that means can be citizen? is it? And can apply and get it in such short time?
Wow, is it much easier than Australia, USA and anywhere else in the world?
I wonder...
If so, what does this mean about this citizenship? i wonder again... -
SG is like a Spider Web, & foreigners who end up becoming citizens are like flies becoming ensnared, to be sucked dry by the giant spider...Originally posted by maurizio13:Singapore has become a magnet for rejects for migrants intending to migrate to 1st world country. Take a ride on the MRT anytime and you will see the quality of foreign talents that Singapore is attracting. The kind of migrants we attract are PRC, Indian, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Thai, etc....... maybe the occasional filthy rich westerners or the misinformed westerners. -
You are really pathatic to assume that foreigners are flies. So I guess people like you are just left over carcass?Originally posted by HyperFocal:SG is like a Spider Web, & foreigners who end up becoming citizens are like flies becoming ensnared, to be sucked dry by the giant spider... -
Originally posted by Gazelle:You are really pathatic to assume that foreigners are flies. So I guess people like you are just left over carcass?
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Your great/grand parents are migrants too. And whats goes around comes around, so you better pray the same wont happen to you.Originally posted by HyperFocal: -
Originally posted by Gazelle:Your great/grand parents are migrants too. And whats goes around comes around, so you better pray the same wont happen to you.
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can I know why are you banned in this forum huh?Originally posted by HyperFocal: -
well, just hope tt those ang moh PRs dun kena caught by our dear SS then.
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You mean Secret Society or what?Originally posted by jay_rocks:well, just hope tt those ang moh PRs dun kena caught by our dear SS then. -
I think what differs from the "present migrants" to the "past migrants" is, in the 1960s when "past migrants" came to Singapore the GDP per capita was $400, through their hard work they made Singapore to what it is today. Unlike the present migrants who come just to extract profits so that they can return back to their homeland.Originally posted by HyperFocal:
Kudos to the first generation migrant workers who made Singapore to what it is today. -
I wonder why Singaporeans are so dumb to let FT, EXTRACT PROFITS from Singapore.Originally posted by maurizio13:I think what differs from the "present migrants" to the "past migrants" is, in the 1960s when "past migrants" came to Singapore the GDP per capita was $400, through their hard work they made Singapore to what it is today. Unlike the present migrants who come just to extract profits so that they can return back to their homeland.
Kudos to the first generation migrant workers who made Singapore to what it is today. -
Because we have morons like you for citizens???Originally posted by Gazelle:I wonder why Singaporeans are so dumb to let FT, EXTRACT PROFITS from Singapore.
Muahahaha.....
So stupid, set yourself up. -
You make it sound as if that FTs are stealing the money dont you? why dont you and your fellow whiners go down to the construction site and see if you are capable of doing the same.Originally posted by maurizio13:Because we have morons like you for citizens???
Muahahaha.....
So stupid, set yourself up.
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Wah, Gazelle thinks that ang mohs coming to Singapore is good news? Looks like he wants to suck white d.ick after all.
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Eh?!?!?!Originally posted by Ellezag:Wah, Gazelle thinks that ang mohs coming to Singapore is good news? Looks like he wants to suck white d.ick after all.
I thought Gazelle's don't like white prick?
I think Gazelle got secret white penis envy, he trying to pretend he don't like but in actuality, he loves them. -
A Time-honoured Fable, The Goatherd and the Wild Goats.
Aesop foresaw SingaporeÂ’s future. FTs will scamper away as fast as they could to the mountains.
A goatherd, driving his flock from their pasture at eventide, found some Wild Goats mingled among them, and shut them up together with his own for the night.
The next day it snowed very hard, so that he could not take the herd to their usual feeding places, but was obliged to keep them in the fold. He gave his own goats just sufficient food to keep them alive, but fed the strangers more abundantly in the hope of enticing them to stay with him and of making them his own.
When the thaw set in, he led them all out to feed, and the Wild Goats scampered away as fast as they could to the mountains.
The Goatherd scolded them for their ingratitude in leaving him, when during the storm he had taken more care of them than of his own herd.
One of them, turning about, said to him: That is the very reason why we are so cautious; for if you yesterday treated us better than the Goats you have had so long, it is plain also that if others came after us, you would in the same manner prefer them to ourselves. -
All I can see is, tat "Grass is Always Greener On The Other Side"...Haiz...Originally posted by justcooler:Have any one of you really see the point of this report
An American foregoing his citizenship of one of the most advance country in the world and took up sg citizenship.
1a) Singapore is a more desirable country as compared to US. (any comments ?)
1b) and why are Singaporeans still packing our bags ??
Also not to forget that they (the family) is a very small percentage of foreigners that is from a advance country. Are there any report or stat on people from developed countries determine to stay here for long term ??
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Assuming that you were educated in S'pore and is aware of our history, it's scary to think how in the world the S'pore system could produce such a bigot who despises the modern day immigrant, who are just like your ancestors who also came here not-too-long-ago to get a job, start a family and to create a better life.Originally posted by maurizio13:Because we have morons like you for citizens???
Muahahaha.....
So stupid, set yourself up.
Lighten up. You've heard of the 'global village', haven't you? -
Global village? More like Chinese and Indian villages. Well, it takes a bigger bigot to know another bigot. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word bigot before using it on me.Originally posted by blueheeler:Assuming that you were educated in S'pore and is aware of our history, it's scary to think how in the world the S'pore system could produce such a bigot who despises the modern day immigrant, who are just like your ancestors who also came here not-too-long-ago to get a job, start a family and to create a better life.
Lighten up. You've heard of the 'global village', haven't you?
You should look at the issues first before passing judgement and taking the moral high ground with me, my issue is with too many foreign talents extracting profits out of Singapore, I am not against foreigners.
There is a maximum amount of immgrants that Singapore can take it, we are not like the US or Australia, where the economy is huge enough to absorb all those immigrants without causing social tensions. Well, I am not totally against immigrants, provided they are really "talents". But at the current situation, think we taking in the sub-standard ah neh from India and sub-standard ah niu from China. How does his add value to Singapore?
They are constantly displacing Singaporeans from their jobs, due to cheaper wages which we are unable to compete with. Why aren't we able to compete with them for cheaper wages? It's because they have a lower cost structure for their families living in China, each S$1 earned here converts to RMB 5.00, without CPF, they stand to remit more back to China. The 4-6 average Chinese workers is able to squeeze into a room. Is the average Singaporean family able to squeeze 4-6 persons into a room?
Frankly I have nothing against these immigrant workers, it's not their fault, it's more the fault of the P4P government for failing to restrict the numbers of foreign workers. These worker cause the average Singaporean to have a lower standard of living by competing in terms of lower wages.
If you look at other countries, like Japan, UK, Australia, they have policies to restrict these immigrant workers to protect their own citizens. But Singapore has to take the idiotic route of competing for cheaper cost instead of quality. Ask yourself why is the price of a Rolex on the increase, while other generic electrical goods keep falling in value? To me, Singapore is just chasing a falling rock into the bottom of the well.
Not too long ago, this house was delapidated, the immigrants of the past came over from distant land to build this house to it's greatness today. These folks did not reap the benefits of building this house, instead they have been made poorer with the increase in new immigrant workers, as wage price drops, it cause a domino effect, wage levels below it dropped as well, causing these old folks who use to be able to make more from jobs at hawker centers, to be relinquish to picking up cans and boxes for a living.
Why was cheap foreign labour allowed to enter Singapore so easily? It's because of the governments intention to lower wage levels, as wage levels are always price sticky downwards. Their downward pressure of these foreigners caused the average wage level of Singaporeans to decrease. Talk to some taxi drivers, some use to be managers in factories, now they drive taxis because their bosses tell them, with your wage I can hire 3-4 Chinese workers. Would this have happened if there were less foreign labours being seconded to Singapore?
Like I said before, Singapore reliance on using cost economics is a negative sum game that will work against them in the long run. China and India with a huge labour force cannot be challenged by Singapore. How many more years of depressed wage levels does Singapore have to endure before India and China reach our levels of GDP per capita?
Don't you think by changing the demographical composition of Singapore will result in social tensions in the future? -
What about the latest figures on the no of local migrating to other countries this year?