Jobs created - What kinds of jobs?
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Oops.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Are you insinuating that our education system has failed?
Busted.
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@reddressman
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Why do you say most jobs are never advertised? How are companies going to find people if jobs don't get advertised? The reason i am asking is that i am in the midst of looking for a job and any info would be great.
I will educate you in public today.
Many if not most jobs are never advertised.
Repeat after me. N-e-v-e-r ..... A-d-v-e-r-t-i-s-e-d.
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The firms pass assignments to the recruitment agencies i suppose ?
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I think the Phillippines are the benefactors of our job creations.
I see an increasing number of Fillipino aircraft technicians at my work place.
I am also begining to see Fillipina cashiers at Giant and Cold Storage.
I have received a call from SingTel regarding a promotion. Voice sound Fillipina.
I called M1 call centre and the operator was ............ you guessed it, Fillipina.
Malaysians, Thai, Chinese, Indians.
Indonesians, now Fillipinos, later Vietnamese.
The Cambodians better buck up, or they'll miss out on Singapore's progress. -
xiu mu bu ke diao....haven't you heard you cannot carve on rotten wood?Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Are you insinuating that our education system has failed? 
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Rotten wood? What have you been carving with? A blunt broken knife?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:xiu mu bu ke diao....haven't you heard you cannot carve on rotten wood?
A system that doesn't encourage to think, and you tell me it isn't broken. Well done. -
From your reply, I can accept that you are really new to job market.Originally posted by fox_hound_33:@reddressman
Why do you say most jobs are never advertised? How are companies going to find people if jobs don't get advertised? The reason i am asking is that i am in the midst of looking for a job and any info would be great.
No problem.
Just think of it a simpler way. If jobs created is x number, and you think these are all advertised, then isn't the job ad not showing enough jobs that are really created? Just count and tell me how many jobs are advertised compared to job creation figures.
Examples of Jobs that are not advertised:
1. Internal staff recommendation.
2. Staff transfer from dept A to B.
3. Job Agencies by word of mouth, network, sources other than newspapers like Monster (this is not newspaper ad. It is a website full of jobs of the world, not just singapore. Feel free to visit to understand more.) Ok, its arguable that this is also a form of advertisement. But other than monster, many agents rely on their network and build up their own database of professionals. And some other ways which I cannot reveal. You dun pay me so I no need reveal the secret.
4. some other reasons I too tired to think now.
Another thought I have while replying to your post:
1. Job Creation figures. Can anyone out there advise, If a job is removed , that is job position terminated in singapore or relocated to China, and a new job position created. Does this mean 1 new job is created even though the NETT number of jobs EXISTING now remains the same?
2. How about this way. 1000 jobs gone extinct. 100 new jobs created. What does this mean?
Any comments welcome.
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There are also advertisements for jobs, when there are really no jobs.
Job agencies sometimes do this to get potential applilcants, and build up their data base. -
Humbug. I would rather see a statistic on new startups. Those are the providers of jobs of the future. Jobs? What are the quality in the first place? It's one thing to get lots of new jobs, but all of them are shit saikang jobs, what's the bloody point?
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got jobs, do loh...
no jobs, shake legs loh...
btw, most of the jobs created went to FT... so what's the point arguing here?
you think if any poor people die here or no food to eat or no $$$ to spend, the gahmen will care??? unless you beg them for $$$ or for help!!! -
I totally agree with your insight .Originally posted by mancha:There are also advertisements for jobs, when there are really no jobs.
Job agencies sometimes do this to get potential applilcants, and build up their data base.
Hope those new to the job market or those who never changed jobs wake up and know more about the job market for their own benefit.
Many times, many agents advertise for the same position also and many times, their client (i.e. MNCs that engage them to do the candidate recommendation / 1st level filtering) are all competing for the same candidate(s). They usually do not even reveal their client's name and clear job specification. A client can have as many agent as they want to help them search. Usually, there is no need to search. There are resumes floating around all the time. There is no real need to advertise on expensive newspaper , TV or radio. Singapore is a tiny job market. The number of candidates are just so few. By now all agencies have all our records. What they need is call / email you for constant update and check if you are on the look-see-look-see. Once you reply them, they can safely assume you are thinking already.
I shall ask again and hope for clarification:
1. Hypothesis: 1000 jobs gone extinct. 100 jobs got created.
Questions:
A. How many jobs get created ? then
How many jobs get created NETT?
B. How many of these created jobs went to locals / PRs / Foreigners?
C. How much difference in salary between extinct jobs and new jobs?
I looked at the news this weekend and still, as usual, I cannot find this answer in an article reporting about job growth.
I dreamt that if I become the perm sec of Manpower, I can bring down the unemployment rate to sub 1 %. I mean, if I go by number system, if you know what I mean.