Police Reject Permit For Workers' Party's Cycling Event
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i'm sure if PAP wants to organise a cycling event, no problem right?
cause only PAP are human, the rest are not human, only PAP can behave themselves in public, WP are animals who cannot behave themselves right?
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even an organised protest is OK if you refer to the Hendrickson case.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i'm sure if PAP wants to organise a cycling event, no problem right? 
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you are wrong.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i'm sure if PAP wants to organise a cycling event, no problem right?
cause only PAP are human, the rest are not human, only PAP can behave themselves in public, WP are animals who cannot behave themselves right?
so much for equality
PAP are immortals, we are the humans, earthlings or mortals, the WP are the ones that have broken loose from hell. The immortals must no matter what put a stop to tis or the WP frm hell will shake their heaven.
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to think they still wanna promote healthy lifestyleOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:To workaround, they probably can cycle indoors... which is damn idiotic. Sports shouldn't be indoors.
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Ask them to use the row of stationary bikes at the gym.
Its INDOORS what
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lol, reminds me of.. those greek gods. zeus, hercules etc?Originally posted by TYING:you are wrong.
PAP are immortals, we are the humans, earthlings or mortals, the WP are the ones that have broken loose from hell. The immortals must no matter what put a stop to tis or the WP frm hell will shake their heaven. -
I went for a Whinehouse cycling outing last December!
And I joined an NUS Muslim Society cycling outing earlier this year!
Oh no.... will I be charged? Should I go into hiding?
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HMM.Originally posted by Simon Dean:Ask them to use the row of stationary bikes at the gym.
Its INDOORS what 
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I hate those... frankly, it's better to be outside than inside. The air in gym is stale.Originally posted by Simon Dean:Ask them to use the row of stationary bikes at the gym.
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BTW, Concerning the NDP, has any political party, besides the PAP, sent a contingent?Originally posted by Rock^Star:The same can be said of our NDP. It's a recreational and national event for Singaporeans, not for PAP to further their political agenda with the display of their flags.
It is just so uphill for opposition parties to strengthen their foothold.
Would WP have done the same if they were in power and PAP the opposition?
Did they apply, and were rejected?
Or, they did not apply at all.
Any reason why WP, SDP, SDA, cannot sent a contingent to the NDP?
Any one know why, the opposition did not send a contingent?
Refusal/omission of the opposition parties to take part in the NDP would only work against themselves.
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From my understanding, a political party is allowed to send an NDP contingent only if it have a certain % of Parliament seats.Originally posted by mancha:BTW, Concerning the NDP, has any political party, besides the PAP, sent a contingent?
Did they apply, and were rejected?
Or, they did not apply at all.
Any reason why WP, SDP, SDA, cannot sent a contingent to the NDP?
Any one know why, the opposition did not send a contingent?
Refusal/omission of the opposition parties to take part in the NDP would only work against themselves.
They should apply for the next NDP.
Personally, I do not know the details like how many % and I have not been able to find it in the statutes.
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Originally posted by :This kind of waste-time event deserves to be rejected!
Seriously, I acknowledge it true to a large extent that the cycling event is not a nationally-important one but more of an organisation-level one, which baffles me as to why a permit cannot be granted for this.
If the event was a more nationally-important, given that netizens generally believe the PAP would stop opposition parties at any cost from engaging the public, I would impress it further impossible to obtain a permit.
The issue isn't so much about the event but the permit rejection. It is a litmus test for more "challenging" activities such as peaceful protests, which I am convinced that a permit will never be granted for until there is a change of government.
I have also received an e-mail from a netizen urging me to respond to criticisms of WP not bringing up more important issues such as the impending annuity policy. While I cannot represent the Party, from my limited knowledge, the annuity policy will be discussed at length in Parliament somewhere in September 2007. I stand corrected as there may be changes in timeline.
There are views that WP should bring up the issue immediately, as some opposition parties without seats have done, instead of waiting for Parliament sittings. Granted that a number of netizens may feel that "speed defines the winner" but this is politics, not kungfu There is no concrete evidence yet as to how being fast is beneficial as long as it is not slow and the issue has not died down.
In my view, the opposition was elected into Parliament to allow it to use Parliament as a platform to catch national attention. By and large, Parliament sittings receive more coverage from what we term as the "154th" than a press statement.
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Originally posted by Melvin Tan:
U mean sammyboy forum? Don't see it here. The 2 forums are like chalk & cheese. But methinks u should go to the forum to clarify..... many pple think WP is quiet....
Seriously, I acknowledge it true to a large extent that the cycling event is not a nationally-important one but more of an organisation-level one, which baffles me as to why a permit cannot be granted for this.
If the event was a more nationally-important, given that netizens generally believe the PAP would stop opposition parties at any cost from engaging the public, I would impress it further impossible to obtain a permit.
The issue isn't so much about the event but the permit rejection. It is a litmus test for more "challenging" activities such as peaceful protests, which I am convinced that a permit will never be granted for until there is a change of government.
I have also received an e-mail from a netizen urging me to respond to criticisms of WP not bringing up more important issues such as the impending annuity policy. While I cannot represent the Party, from my limited knowledge, the annuity policy will be discussed at length in Parliament somewhere in September 2007. I stand corrected as there may be changes in timeline.
[b]There are views that WP should bring up the issue immediately, as some opposition parties without seats have done, instead of waiting for Parliament sittings. Granted that a number of netizens may feel that "speed defines the winner" but this is politics, not kungfu There is no concrete evidence yet as to how being fast is beneficial as long as it is not slow and the issue has not died down.
In my view, the opposition was elected into Parliament to allow it to use Parliament as a platform to catch national attention. By and large, Parliament sittings receive more coverage from what we term as the "154th" than a press statement.
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Whichever forum it came from, I am aware of such sentiments.Originally posted by hawkeye1819:U mean sammyboy forum? Don't see it here. The 2 forums are like chalk & cheese. But methinks u should go to the forum to clarify..... many pple think WP is quiet....
In my view and going by existing reports, WP has never been "quiet"; it is just not "noisy" enough based on some expectations. They admittedly exist but on the other hand, are not shared by all.
I personally don't think being "quiet" and being "not noisy enough" are totally the same. The former constitutes zero press statements, zero websites and zero activities
On a lighter note, those who spoke up against the minister pay hike, GST increase and powers of the PM to appoint judicial members aren't "visitors" to Parliament who didn't go back after the 7th month, are they?
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Perhaps they can have a car rally
If the police question why, they can answer that they are holding a wedding for one of its members. That is why they utilise all of their manpower.
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Which body gives or denies permits?
Is it belong to any political party?
If so what does that mean?
Police and legal system should remain neutral to political parties and not show bias either way. And this is also why only the People's support can help ensure a balance of situations. We must understand what is the actual situation. Reading the news and listening to the radio will not be sufficient info to understand the current situation. We need to hear more views to understand more. We need to listen to both sides of the parties.
Can I suggest, as I suggested before in another thread, to have a cycling organiser organise the event and WP apply as public member to join in the cycling. I am sure this is possible. Many cycling events get approved many times before. What WP need to refrain from doing is making speech, for now.
I hope WP be persistent in attempt to reach out much more than ever before. No matter how tough it is to get approval to cycle, you must try to cycle.
If that cannot be done, how about apply for chess playing competition? Or fishing tournament? Or helping the less fortunate by going from blocks to blocks and help the residents? Nothing can be approved? It would be a very sad thing if so. What would other 1st world democracies think!?
Singapore must be capable of showing that she means it when she says she want to be a more inclusive society. She must show she has what it takes to claim as 1st world standard. -
Animal farm...Originally posted by maurizio13:Everybody is Equal, Except Some Pigs Are More Equal Than Others.
I bet if PAP organised it 100% permit granted -
the only way is to kick out a couple of ministers to wake up their ideas...
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Well, if they go as individuals and there is no admitted organiser, then the police have little in the way of a prima facie case mah.
It's the same retarded argument with the Gay Jogging event at Singapore River.
They simply admitted that they are running as individuals and simply proceeded. There is no law that you have broken by doing that.
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Are the huge gatherings of Indian workers at Serangoon road legal?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Well, if they go as individuals and there is no admitted organiser, then the police have little in the way of a prima facie case mah.
It's the same retarded argument with the Gay Jogging event at Singapore River.
They simply admitted that they are running as individuals and simply proceeded. There is no law that you have broken by doing that.
It's really silly. And shameful to the image of Singapore.
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I don't think they will say the same for the gathering of the indian workers at Serangoon Road. The gahmen treasure them as workers in Singapore to the extent that they have placed a statue of an indian worker in the open field opposite Mustafa. This is how far the PAP shows their appreciation to the foreigners, I don't see them doing anything to show their appreciation to our contribution to the country. Double standard.Originally posted by LimSianTong:Are the huge gatherings of Indian workers at Serangoon road legal?
Likewise, the filipino/thai workers at golden mile or far east plaza? -
Honestly your WP pals, supporters are not being helpful. You shd go to Sammyboy form to take a look...Originally posted by Melvin Tan:Whichever forum it came from, I am aware of such sentiments.
In my view and going by existing reports, WP has never been "quiet"; it is just not "noisy" enough based on some expectations. They admittedly exist but on the other hand, are not shared by all.
I personally don't think being "quiet" and being "not noisy enough" are totally the same. The former constitutes zero press statements, zero websites and zero activities On a lighter note, those who spoke up against the minister pay hike, GST increase and powers of the PM to appoint judicial members aren't "visitors" to Parliament who didn't go back after the 7th month, are they?
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and who is going to do the kicking? you ah?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:the only way is to kick out a couple of ministers to wake up their ideas... -
hello,
people who thinks that govt is practising double standards again, please dun jump conclusion and give concrete accurate evidences.
If you can find example where PAP organise at east coast park to promote its political party at the same situation as WP current application while yet rejects WP in this case, then it is a valid case to ask why there is double standards.
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oh yes, PAP's lackey, so you are talking. So you are called January, where is February? How much do you get paid to be so protective over your beloved PAP?Originally posted by january:hello,
people who thinks that govt is practising double standards again, please dun jump conclusion and give concrete accurate evidences.
If you can find example where PAP organise at east coast park to promote its political party at the same situation as WP current application while yet rejects WP in this case, then it is a valid case to ask why there is double standards.
Stop using other examples that are not the same context as this WP cycling event.