LKY makes alot of sense
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SINGAPORE: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has stressed that Singapore will go back to the days of where it started if it loses the system of government machinery that has evolved all these years.
In a wide-ranging interview with the International Herald Tribune, he explained that Singapore's leaders knew that if the country were like its neighbours, it would die as Singapore had nothing to offer against what they had.
Singapore had to produce something which was different and better than what its neighbours had, and that is, a system of government that is incorrupt, efficient, meritocratic and one which works.
Mr Lee noted that the Singapore system works regardless of race, language or religion. Otherwise, the country would have divisions.
He said: "We are pragmatists. We don't stick to any ideology. Does it work? Let's try it and if it does work, fine, let's continue it. If it doesn't work, toss it out, try another one.
"We are not enamoured with any ideology. Let the historians and the Ph.D students work out their doctrines. I'm not interested in theories per se."
Minister Mentor Lee also covered topics concerning the effects of global warming.
He said Singapore is already in consultations with Delft in Holland to learn how to build dikes.
He said: "It scares me, because many world leaders have not woken up to the peril that their populations are in. This melting ice cap. I expected great consternation!
"What would happen to this earth? But, no. Has it triggered off emergency meetings to do something about this? Earth warming, the glaciers melting away? Never mind the Swiss Alps and skiing resorts having to manufacture snow.
"When the glaciers in the Himalayas and Tibet melt away, the Ganges, the Yangtze, the Irrawaddy, the Mekong, may dry up, except for rainy seasons. What will happen to the hundreds of millions? Where do they go? Where can they go? This will be a very serious problem."
Mr Lee also touched on the economic challenges, with the rise of China and India. - CNA/ir -
wow, so he's aware of global warming.
thought he's blinded by something else. -
No la, else singapore will not obtained the status of developed country (or advance some say)Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:wow, so he's aware of global warming.
thought he's blinded by something else.
But he is getting there, not only blind but also deaf -
What I really admire about LKY is that he is able to build a government which he can confidently claim to the world media that it is incorrupt. I wonder which other politician dare to make such claim.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:wow, so he's aware of global warming.
thought he's blinded by something else. -
yeah.. we need to "build dykes"
he's leading by example by making his son marry one
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Nuclear ice breakers are breaking the ice in the north poles
And are increasing in numbers due to their search for oil
Amount rumoured to be 1/4 of the earth's reserves
Money come first, floodings in other countries come later
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yawnz...his usual fear tactics... after his "no minister payrise Singaporeans becomes maid" saga, i think most people would discount his fear tactics by 80%.
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i guess we're all numb.Originally posted by kilua:yawnz...his usual fear tactics... after his "no minister payrise Singaporeans becomes maid" saga, i think most people would discount his fear tactics by 80%. -
Indisputable fact, Singapore Govt is incorrupt, in a court of law.
How can they be corrupt? Everything thing they do is legal. Firstly, PAP can change/enact laws, including the constitution. No one to challenge, PAP can just bulldoze through who ever speaks up against a constitutional amendment or bill? Whenever they need to do something new, they just enact new law to cover whatever they want to do. hence its a huge contributor to low or zero corruption.
Also Amakudari is not seen as corruption in Singapore. Of course no corruption.
Amakudari is the institutionalised practice where Japanese senior bureaucrats retire to high-profile positions in the private and public sectors. The practice is increasingly viewed as corrupt and a drag on unfastening the ties between private sector and state which prevent economic and political reforms. -
Who do you think is responsible for building Singapore into such a incorrupt country, as reflected in the Corruption Perception Index (CPI), while our neighbouring countries, such as Malaysia (44) Thailand (62) Philippines (121) Indonesia (130) are so far down.
Below is a list of top 22 in the CPI index.
1 Finland
2 Iceland
3 New Zealand
4 Denmark
5 Singapore
6 Sweden
7 Switzerland
8 Norway
9 Australia
10 Netherlands
11 Austria
12 Luxembourg
13 United Kingdom
14 Canada
15 Hong Kong
16 Germany
17 Japan
18 France
19 Ireland
20 Belgium
21 Chile
22 USA -
only if someone pays himself $3m a year to remain 'not corrupt'
it just shows that even the label of 'not corrupt' can be bought.. and therefore, that label of 'not corrupt' is, in essense, corrupted -
Has WP been allowed to hold any mass actiivties ?Originally posted by Gazelle:..........................He said: "We are pragmatists. We don't stick to any ideology. Does it work? Let's try it and if it does work, fine, let's continue it. If it doesn't work, toss it out, try another one.
.......... - CNA/ir
If not what makes you so sure they will create violence ?
Are you able to not stick to any ideology and allow new things like freedom for WP to reach its support base? If this does not work as in create violence, lets toss it out and try another one?
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If you are running an organisation which has a annual sales turnover of $250billions per year, would you pay more to get good people that you can trust to work for you, or you would prefer pay less and get people you cant really trust to work for you?Originally posted by the Bear:only if someone pays himself $3m a year to remain 'not corrupt'
it just shows that even the label of 'not corrupt' can be bought.. and therefore, that label of 'not corrupt' is, in essense, corrupted
As a citizen and tax payer, which one will you choose? Personally I would prefer Singapore current system because the government is in control of how much they are getting, rather than guessing how much the are hidding. -
As long as GIC, Temasek are not fully open or transparent about their finances and P&L statements, there is hidden money.... Just that laws were made to make these hidden money legal, and therefore not corrupt. And Laws where made to they the executive has a hand in appointing judges... and if those judges rule against those that challenge them(Govt), its also not corruption.
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Just step into the grave. Who can forget his comments that our women will become maids if not for PAP?Originally posted by Gazelle:SINGAPORE: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has stressed that Singapore will go back to the days of where it started if it loses the system of government machinery that has evolved all these years.
Yet another sentence that says Singapore is nothing w/o PAP.
BAHHHH.......next. -
If you are capable of revealing, you are. If you are not, you are not.Originally posted by Gazelle:If you are running an organisation which has a annual sales turnover of $250billions per year, would you pay more to get good people that you can trust to work for you, or you would prefer pay less and get people you cant really trust to work for you?
As a citizen and tax payer, which one will you choose? Personally I would prefer Singapore current system because the government is in control of how much they are getting, rather than guessing how much the are hidding.
Dun make it sound nice.
Your logic is very dangerous and promote info hiding.
Your views are certainly to be wary of.
And you speak like you represent them. Who are you to talk like that?
Do you?
Do you not?
Officially?
If not, I call your bluff.
You are a dangerous Gazelle.
Man disguised as a Gazelle? You like me to take you seriously? come on , grow Gazelle. Give your life some meaning and respect your soul more. Be a man. if you represent them, prove it. I doubt you can. Anyone can say they represent them, even a Gazelle.
I think you have never disagreed with them on anything. And as I am smart, I predict and tell you in advance, you will never ever disagree anything with them from today till your Gazelle life ends. So, I have told you your future. you now know your future, even if it is in the future. everything is yes for you. I wonder did your elders taught you to think like this. -
Openly rewarding themselves with taxpayers money, extravagrant pension scheme... corruption... mmh what's the difference?
Oops there is a difference, there is no fear of getting caught.
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Sounds like bandit.Originally posted by bangkokboy:Opening rewarding themselves with taxpayers money, extravagrant pension scheme... corruption... mmh what's the difference?
Oops there is a difference, there is no fear of getting caught. 
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Only he dare to say it.Originally posted by Gazelle:What I really admire about LKY is that he is able to build a government which he can confidently claim to the world media that it is incorrupt. I wonder which other politician dare to make such claim.
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he is confident in things he do...and we should follow that quality.
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dude.. the annual sales are not made by the company.. it's made by OTHER companies...
the only company which the gabrament has a right to say is theirs is losing money so fast it's criminal..
and for that, you have to put the blame squarely on the PM and his husband -
of cux i tink we shud give him some utmost credit n respect for hes the one that brought sg independence or else u and i wont be here discussing bout him alreadi
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runing a biz with someone else $$$, any tom dick and harry can also do that. what more billion $$$ loses are just packet of peanuts only to teach the poddles to learn to sit, beg and play deadOriginally posted by Gazelle:If you are running an organisation which has a annual sales turnover of $250billions per year, would you pay more to get good people that you can trust to work for you, or you would prefer pay less and get people you cant really trust to work for you?
As a citizen and tax payer, which one will you choose? Personally I would prefer Singapore current system because the government is in control of how much they are getting, rather than guessing how much the are hidding. -
Independence? from who, Federation of Malaya? FYI, independence was not the choice of the PAP. We were kicked out, and LKY was even distraught for a while after being kicked out.Originally posted by brokenluv:of cux i tink we shud give him some utmost credit n respect for hes the one that brought sg independence or else u and i wont be here discussing bout him alreadi
Even before PAP came into power, singapore was already the economic leader in SE Asia. And in east Asia, behind only Japan and Hongkong. -
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