emigration is not easy
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and if there are more FTs renting here than the number of jobs lost by singaporeans, then singaporeans gain through higher rental income, as a whole for singapore. -
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Originally posted by fishbuff:
You mean you have a Home with a Real View in Australia? Natural river wan ah, so shiok and fresh air. what a living!
im staying here in this [b]house right at the river front.
i wouldnt be able to afford to stay at such a water front place in sg. Not an elite nor civil servant.
http://fishbuff.blogspot.com/2007/09/my-housing-history-log_22.html[/b]
Wow, if I got longkang happy liao. hee....
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How many migrated from SG to Aussie??
Australia Table 1.2 (continued) Settler arrivals by birthplace,
1996-97 to 2006-07 Birthplace
yr 96---97---98---99--00----01----02------03 ---04---05------06
Sg 925 694 650 884 1361 1493 1751 2224 3036 2685 1658
Settler Arrivals 2006 - 2007 (492KB PDF file)
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/statistics/settler-arrivals/settler-arrivals-0607.pdf
1.Only few thousand migrate to Aussie?
How come i gather from here many escape fr SG??
The report show where do Sporean settle.Very useful!! -
hahaha, I like this one .... food - glorious food - nothing beats our street food. Why I heck care some Silliporeans who can't stand the heat in the kitchen? If they can't beat the FT, they can always migrate to Myanmar. I am sure their talent in complaining-complaining-complaining will be much appreciated by the junta there.Originally posted by t_a_s:some more other country can not find singapore food eg. mee rebus, mee soto, mee siam mai hum, char koay teow, laksa, satay, prawn mee, roti prata, bak kut teh, goh hiong, hor fun, nasi briyani, rojak....... -
Another problem with emigration to the ang moh countries.
Sexual misconduct plagues US schools
By MARTHA IRVINE and ROBERT TANNER, AP National Writers 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
The young teacher hung his head, avoiding eye contact. Yes, he had touched a fifth-grader's breast during recess. "I guess it was just lust of the flesh," he told his boss.
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That got Gary C. Lindsey fired from his first teaching job in Oelwein, Iowa. But it didn't end his career. He taught for decades in Illinois and Iowa, fending off at least a half-dozen more abuse accusations.
When he finally surrendered his teaching license in 2004 — 40 years after that first little girl came forward — it wasn't a principal or a state agency that ended his career. It was one persistent victim and her parents.
Lindsey's case is just a small example of a widespread problem in American schools: sexual misconduct by the very teachers who are supposed to be nurturing the nation's children.
Students in America's schools are groped. They're raped. They're pursued, seduced and think they're in love.
An Associated Press investigation found more than 2,500 cases over five years in which educators were punished for actions from bizarre to sadistic.
There are 3 million public school teachers nationwide, most devoted to their work. Yet the number of abusive educators — nearly three for every school day — speaks to a much larger problem in a system that is stacked against victims.
Most of the abuse never gets reported. Those cases reported often end with no action. Cases investigated sometimes can't be proven, and many abusers have several victims.
And no one — not the schools, not the courts, not the state or federal governments — has found a surefire way to keep molesting teachers out of classrooms.
Those are the findings of an AP investigation in which reporters sought disciplinary records in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The result is an unprecedented national look at the scope of sex offenses by educators — the very definition of breach of trust.
The seven-month investigation found 2,570 educators whose teaching credentials were revoked, denied, surrendered or sanctioned from 2001 through 2005 following allegations of sexual misconduct.
Young people were the victims in at least 1,801 of the cases, and more than 80 percent of those were students. At least half the educators who were punished by their states also were convicted of crimes related to their misconduct.
The findings draw obvious comparisons to sex abuse scandals in other institutions, among them the Roman Catholic Church. A review by America's Catholic bishops found that about 4,400 of 110,000 priests were accused of molesting minors from 1950 through 2002.
Clergy abuse is part of the national consciousness after a string of highly publicized cases. But until now, there's been little sense of the extent of educator abuse.
Beyond the horror of individual crimes, the larger shame is that the institutions that govern education have only sporadically addressed a problem that's been apparent for years.
"From my own experience — this could get me in trouble — I think every single school district in the nation has at least one perpetrator. At least one," says Mary Jo McGrath, a California lawyer who has spent 30 years investigating abuse and misconduct in schools. "It doesn't matter if it's urban or rural or suburban."
One report mandated by Congress estimated that as many as 4.5 million students, out of roughly 50 million in American schools, are subject to sexual misconduct by an employee of a school sometime between kindergarten and 12th grade. That figure includes verbal harassment that's sexual in nature.
Jennah Bramow, one of Lindsey's accusers in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, wonders why there isn't more outrage.
"You're supposed to be able to send your kids to school knowing that they're going to be safe," says Bramow, now 20. While other victims accepted settlement deals and signed confidentiality agreements, she sued her city's schools for failing to protect her and others from Lindsey — and won. Only then was Lindsey's teaching license finally revoked.
As an 8-year-old elementary-school student, Bramow told how Lindsey forced her hand on what she called his "pee-pee."
"How did you know it was his pee-pee?" an interviewer at St. Luke's Child Protection Center in Cedar Rapids asked Jennah in a videotape, taken in 1995.
"'Cause I felt something?" said Jennah, then a fidgety girl with long, dark hair.
"How did it feel?" the investigator asked.
"Bumpy," Jennah replied. She drew a picture that showed how Lindsey made her touch him on the zipper area of his pants. -
you have a logic there which I cannot rebut.Originally posted by Daddy!!:and if there are more FTs renting here than the number of jobs lost by singaporeans, then singaporeans gain through higher rental income, as a whole for singapore. -
Yadayada..
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"One report mandated by Congress estimated that as many as 4.5 million students, out of roughly 50 million in American schools, are subject to sexual misconduct by an employee of a school sometime between kindergarten and 12th grade. That figure includes verbal harassment that's sexual in nature."
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So the situation calls to own additional properties to rent out. this is common practiced around the whole world, except some European countries.Originally posted by reddressman:you have a logic there which I cannot rebut. -
i can see it not easy to emigrant to other country like australia.
i heard that the whites dislike and look down on asians.
can asians found job over there?
one of friend is singapore chinese with high education can only work as an dishwasher in chinatown resturant.
i see girls are more easy to emigrate than guy.
i see local girls especially the local chinese girls will try to find caucasian husbands and emigrate to the usa or aust. -
That's the biggest load of unsubstantiated crap I've ever heard.Originally posted by sundaytimes:i can see it not easy to emigrant to other country like australia.
i heard that the whites dislike and look down on asians.
can asians found job over there?
one of friend is singapore chinese with high education can only work as an dishwasher in chinatown resturant.
i see girls are more easy to emigrate than guy.
i see local girls especially the local chinese girls will try to find caucasian husbands and emigrate to the usa or aust.
Every single point you have raised belongs to the world of myths.
There are Asians in the upper echelons of the Australian government. The Lord Mayor of Melbourne is of HK ancestry.
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I agreed on ur saying. I really cannot stand people esp those local criticizing how bad other developed country compared to here.Originally posted by LazerLordz:That's the biggest load of unsubstantiated crap I've ever heard.
Every single point you have raised belongs to the world of myths.
There are Asians in the upper echelons of the Australian government. The Lord Mayor of Melbourne is of HK ancestry.
Singaporeans and Malaysians make up the top income bracket of states like WA and Victoria. -
Yeah mate, whole bucket of urban mythsOriginally posted by LazerLordz:That's the biggest load of unsubstantiated crap I've ever heard.
Every single point you have raised belongs to the world of myths.
There are Asians in the upper echelons of the Australian government. The Lord Mayor of Melbourne is of HK ancestry.
Singaporeans and Malaysians make up the top income bracket of states like WA and Victoria.
Although, it *is* getting harder by the year to meet the points for PR due to the influx of foreigners. No such thing happening here in Singapore I'm afraid *sighs* -
Gedanken and I are asians - we have decent paying jobs in Australia. So what's the problem?Originally posted by sundaytimes:i can see it not easy to emigrant to other country like australia.
i heard that the whites dislike and look down on asians.
can asians found job over there?
one of friend is singapore chinese with high education can only work as an dishwasher in chinatown resturant.
i see girls are more easy to emigrate than guy.
i see local girls especially the local chinese girls will try to find caucasian husbands and emigrate to the usa or aust.
Of course, with a high school education and no skill, what do you expect? Cheh ....you think our O levels that fantastic meh - must give you high paying job because you have Singaporean O levels...hello ...there are alot of people with Masters and PhD in Australia. In Singapore, it will pretty much be the same thing . If your friend has a high school education and tradeskill, i.e. plumber , electrician etc , he won't work as a dishwasher. If I am not wrong, your friend is probably just a student on a student working visa , harder to get jobs since the companies have to find either permanent residents OR Australian citizens to do the job before looking for foreigners.
Yes the world is globalising. Singapore has to remain competitive by controlling wages of the skilled workers. Other developed countries remain competitive by offering higher wages so they attract the young skilled workers. It goes both ways. People come , people go. Do you think the "foreign talents" Singapore attracted are interested in Singapore? Get real - it's for the money.
And frankly I find that the part about local girls have more ease to migrate by finding caucasian husbands is hilarious - you think so easy ah ? I am a girl who migrated on a skillset they need - no caucasian boyfriends or husbands to help me through.
Those who cannot make it into or IN Australia will of course whine about racism and being a second class citizen. That's their problem. Alot of asians I see here are quite ok - surviving decently with nice houses.
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Does it matter?
How many migrated from SG to Aussie??
Australia Table 1.2 (continued) Settler arrivals by birthplace,
1996-97 to 2006-07 Birthplace
yr 96---97---98---99--00----01----02------03 ---04---05------06
Sg 925 694 650 884 1361 1493 1751 2224 3036 2685 1658
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Settler Arrivals 2006 - 2007 (492KB PDF file)
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/statistics/settler-arrivals/settler-arrivals-0607.pdf
1.Only few thousand migrate to Aussie?
How come i gather from here many escape fr SG??
The report show where do Sporean settle.Very useful!![/b]
There is a set quota on how many migrants , even for skilled ones, Australia takes in per year . You must be very naive to think that Australia will just open the flood gates and let any one come in. -
money mean everythan'Originally posted by fishbuff:yes, u must be prepared for hardship, culture shock and cheats. i believe there are alot of people in singapore that are thinking of emigrating to another country but u really need to do your homework first before taking the plunge. There are numerous hardships, difficulties and challenges, but for the sake of your family and your future, u might want to think of this path. -
A) 6 million means more people they can tax . Or else how to sustain million dollar salary of ministers?Originally posted by Gazelle:a) Job market in Singapore is not stagnating it is growing or else why would singapore government is consider increasing the population to 6m?
b) If you are untalented, you will not make it in anywhere you go and furthermore I cant think of a country that will accept immigrant without talent, unless you have $$
c) There will always be rich and poor people in every country and being poor doesnt mean you are 2nd class citizen because you are entitled to same rights, votes, freedom, and laws that govern this country.
B) Yes I agree with you on point B. Talent = skill. World is globalising . Singapore has to remain competitive by wage control. But not to worry , other developed countries need labour to remain competitive , so higher pay elsewhere if you want to take it up.
C) Rather be 2nd class citizen with my own freehold property and free hospital treatment with a pension waiting for me ,rather than be first class with third class salary and busy paying off a HDB 99 year old lease til I die. Anyways money make people first class everywhere lah. So if you have money , no one can screw you over. -
Pauline Hanson is a laughing stock really. Even her own kind laugh at her.Originally posted by kramnave:Depends..Pauline Hanson has been trying to get rid of Asians because the influx of Asians make the caucasians more stress. Think sooner or later everywhere also stress due to globalisation and China ppl migrating everywhere and spreading seeds.
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Originally posted by fymk:A) 6 million means more people they can tax . Or else how to sustain million dollar salary of ministers?
What is wrong with taxing people who come to Singapore to make money? Australian government dont tax people like you?
Does singapore government need to increase the population to pay of ministers salary? Will you be able to tell us how many millions are spent on ministers salary per year?
B) Yes I agree with you on point B. Talent = skill. World is globalising . Singapore has to remain competitive by wage control. But not to worry , other developed countries need labour to remain competitive , so higher pay elsewhere if you want to take it up.
If you are nurse Australia will welcome you with open arms?
C) Rather be 2nd class citizen with my own freehold property and free hospital treatment with a pension waiting for me ,rather than be first class with third class salary and busy paying off a HDB 99 year old lease til I die. Anyways money make people first class everywhere lah. So if you have money , no one can screw you over.
In Singapore, we not so lucky lah...we pay very little income tax, our mortgage interest rate are low, very accessible hospital and polyclinic islandwide, good public transport infrastructure, no issues with guns, shops are always open, we are able to eat hawker good instead of having to eat that boring sandwiches, our children and families wont have to live with racist remarks and most of all, we are able to sing national anthem without being labelled as a fool. -
yeah.. my mum told me got this friend, her family went australia for holiday, then thought it was great, then moved over, then cannot get used to it, move back here.
my neighbour family migrated to australia, they happy there now. haha.
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when jobless rate is high economy is down..what she say will make more sense...to the white community of course..Originally posted by fymk:Pauline Hanson is a laughing stock really. Even her own kind laugh at her.
I don't mind her. In fact, I don't really care about her. -
Australia is definitely lacking of nurses which the local Australian quite reluctant to do the work. Spore also having the same problem of withOriginally posted by Gazelle:
recruiting nurses. However the only problem with Spore is the pigeon hole HDB flat valid on 99 year lease which I found it is not worthy to buy the HDB flat as compared to buying houses in Indonesia or Malaysia. -
Is it not the same in Spore? When the local economy is down or doing well, the local have trouble with those foreign professional except the local daredOriginally posted by Gazelle:when jobless rate is high economy is down..what she say will make more sense...to the white community of course..
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Singapore island is just too small lah...if everywhere is freehold, government will have to use more tax payers money to acquire land for infrastructure isnt it? Do you have a better solution to the problem?Originally posted by will4:Australia is definitely lacking of nurses which the local Australian quite reluctant to do the work. Spore also having the same problem of with
recruiting nurses. However the only problem with Spore is the pigeon hole HDB flat valid on 99 year lease which I found it is not worthy to buy the HDB flat as compared to buying houses in Indonesia or Malaysia.