Gahmen that practise ways that they do not preach.
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Sorry to be point out the same thing again.....Originally posted by caleb_chiang:I did know what he was admitted for.
That statement was like how was his behaviour as compared to today... and not what crimes he could had done in the past.
and believe me, it was not a major crime.
Since you don't know what he/she did..... how you know is it a major crime or not
I will agree if the crime is minior (fighting, stealing, cheating... etc)... white collar crime.... then it really is unfair for the Govt to do what it did.
But it is hard to give judgment if we don't know what happened......
Certain things done in the past could still get alot of person in real trouble even today..... (BTW... not saying ur friend did any of these...)
example - murder, rape, crime against humanity....etc
Nazi war criminal all most now in theirs 80s or 90s..... but that wouldn't stop ppl from 'hunting' them down for war crimes. -
Originally posted by hloc:
Why are you so interested in knowing what he did?
Sorry to be point out the same thing again.....
[b]Since you don't know what he/she did..... how you know is it a major crime or not
I will agree if the crime is minior (fighting, stealing, cheating... etc)... white collar crime.... then it really is unfair for the Govt to do what it did.
But it is hard to give judgment if we don't know what happened......
Certain things done in the past could still get alot of person in real trouble even today..... (BTW... not saying ur friend did any of these...)
example - murder, rape, crime against humanity....etc
Nazi war criminal all most now in theirs 80s or 90s..... but that wouldn't stop ppl from 'hunting' them down for war crimes. [/b]
What he did, he did not inflict harm on others but to himself only. So, you consider that a major crime?
You want his head for doing something to himself?
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I have to know inorder to judge for myself is there an injustice against your friend.Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Why are you so interested in knowing what he did?
What he did, he did not inflict harm on others but to himself only. So, you consider that a major crime?
You want his head for doing something to himself?
Tell me what you want?
Since you admitted of not knowing what he/she did.... how could you be sure that he didn't inflict harm on others... 
how could you be sure that it is not a major crime he/she did Am I suppose to take side base on only your points of views
I'm trying to base my judgment on the issue of what your friend did. Do I consider the crime 'major' enough to agree or not agree , for the Govt to treat him/her this way.
What I got from you is that he/she is a good person... but since I don't know him/her, how would I know what type of person he/she is Am I suppose to base my thinking just on your words alone Am I suppose to agree with you even if I don't have all the facts -
Originally posted by LazerLordz:Refusing an ex-con his passport? Scared he will migrate and make it big outside ah?
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Why does he want to go overseas? If he has a job overseas, I don't think they would deny him a passport. If all he wants is to look for child prostitutes and take drugs, that's quite a different matter.
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why do generally ppl go overseas? holidays lah~Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Why does he want to go overseas? If he has a job overseas, I don't think they would deny him a passport. If all he wants is to look for child prostitutes and take drugs, that's quite a different matter. -
of he commit is crimes oversea and prosecuted back in singapore then i can understand the reason he was denied a passport. other than that, i dont see any reason why.
does anyone know whether singapore sign any pact or agreement with any country to protect allowing ex convicts into that particular country.
I went to Japan and australia. they ask whether you commit any crimes before in your country of origin. -
They are doing this more for themselves, besides they are so well known to be so kiasu kiasi.Originally posted by reyes:of he commit is crimes oversea and prosecuted back in singapore then i can understand the reason he was denied a passport. other than that, i dont see any reason why.
does anyone know whether singapore sign any pact or agreement with any country to protect allowing ex convicts into that particular country.
I went to Japan and australia. they ask whether you commit any crimes before in your country of origin. -
Well, I guess that's almost what the SGFormers can contribute to the topic of this thread.
Unless people who had proofs of pros and against the topic, pls refrain from posting comments out of the topics.
Wonder if any government sector is currently having ex-inmates working under them???
Proof me wrong that my statement of the thread was wrong.
Of all the example that I had seen in the media were those of private sector... what happened to the gahmen sector? -
What a ludicrous excuse!Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Their reasons being that they want to prevent him from doing things that he once did when he went aboard.
Common sense has it that if one want to return to his own ways, it does not neccessary need to be overseas but locally as well!
So much of the yellow ribbon project that they preached... This is just bullshit...
Our gahmen try to be the enlightened 1st world gahmen but their mindset is that of the Stone Age!
Yes sadly the civil service does not hire ex-convicts nor workers above certain age. -
Of all the example that I had seen in the media were those of private sector... what happened to the gahmen sector?
definitely not ministry of education and ministry of defence.
the rest i am not sure.
Even MNC dont recruit coz most their application forms ask whether you are bankrupt or commit criminal offence before.
sad to say, in Singapore there is certainly no turnaround unless you start your own business. even then, probably its hard for you to get small govt contracts. -
That would confirm what I heard from rumor... you will never get to work in gahmen sector if you have any criminal records, no matter how small...
Does getting fined consider a record?
Parking Fines, NEA littering fines, Smoking in restricted area fines, etc...