The opposition can take over running Singapore any time.
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Singapore will continue to run no matter who is in charge. Everything will continue to work, as long as we have honorable, wise people up there, they can appoint the right people into the right positions.
The issue is whether or not we have people that are free from gross personal greed and people that make policies that take care of the people instead of their own lust for luxuries.
If you want to make Singapore into a better place for yourself and your family and not just good for people that takes public money left right and center, see:
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No lah.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Unless of course you think that Low and Silvia are dishonorable people that will put their sons and daughter in laws into powerful positions instead of getting the absolute best people for the job in a transparent, accountable and open manner... oops...
now who is the one doing that at the moment?
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You can choose to believe that, but the fact is that the police made an investigation and found that there is nothing to go on. Should we believe the police or believe an anonymous nick like you?Originally posted by mancha:No lah.
Its that Low and Silvia might employ people who put documents in their bag, and then claim they had passed it up.
If people are stupid enough to buy the propaganda you sell, there is not much to say.
If Low and Silvia appoint people in an open and transparent manner, then they would be held accountable for their bad decisions, not like people that say stupid things like "it is just an honest mistake" as if people should not be held accountable for their "honest mistakes" just because they are their relatives.
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The upper part of your post is the reason why your posts usually degerate into a discussion about your mental state. I will not follow that line.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You can choose to believe that, but the fact is that the police made an investigation and found that there is nothing to go on. Should we believe the police or believe an anonymous nick like you?
If people are stupid enough to buy the propaganda you sell, there is not much to say.
If Low and Silvia appoint people in an open and transparent manner, then they would be held accountable for their bad decisions, not like people that say stupid things like "it is just an honest mistake" as if people should not be held accountable for their "honest mistakes" just because they are their relatives.
As for the "Its is just an honest mistake", Low also forwarded that it was an honest mistake, concerning documents that were clearly and delibrately placed in the briefcase. And it was the Election Committee that decided to not lodge a formal complaint to the police and let the matter pass.
They handled the opposition with mittens.
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The police did not do an investigation and chose not to follow up on it? The police did not think that people are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill? Singaporeans do not know that mistakes and worse are simply covered up when it comes to certain other people?
If people sometimes forget to hand in documents in the heat of an election campaign, they are automatically not qualified?
I do not know what James' professional expertise is in but would Low appoint him to head a nuclear research facility if he has no expertise in that? Only you are stupid enough to think that.
Singaporeans do not know that even grave obnoxious acts by certain people can be covered up with defamation suits and win even if the allegations are true?
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Someone made a ruckus, threatening office clerks, threatening to impute sabotage by the Electoral Commission to disqualify him, over documents that was in his bag all the time.
With deliberate intent or otherwise?
For election sake, that question was left unanswered.
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Which means that Singapore in her current state is nothing like a strong and mature Republic.Originally posted by Daddy!!:there will be civil war before the opposition can take over the government. -
There might even be a military coup.
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If you think that will happen, then you're insulting the fellow Singaporeans who served NS with you.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:There might even be a military coup.
Bear in mind that an illegal order is still an illegal order if it contravenes the Constitution. The SAF is sworn to uphold the Constitution, and to fight any element that wants to destabilise an elected government. -
Bear in mind that an illegal order is still an illegal order if it contravenes the Constitution. The SAF is sworn to uphold the Constitution, and to fight any element that wants to destabilise an elected government.
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social disorder > national security issues > tanks start rolling > national reserves transfered to switzerland till situation calms down -
now that's a small step forward, ask when you do not know. do not buy the propaganda and do not believe the delusions in your head.Originally posted by mancha:With deliberate intent or otherwise?
The police made a full investigation, viewed the video tapes, interviewed the people involved and found nothing to go on. Go with facts, not propaganda and delusions in your own head. -
Hi Robert,Originally posted by robertteh:If we want to activate the passive majority to go for change, we must put up a list of change we want.
Forumers should stay united by such a common program of change and go to all forums to spread the same message with this list or program for change.
Only when there is such a united common platform will it lead to change.
Any support for this common platform to stay united and work towards eventual change.
Personally, I think using forums would be difficult to organise a common platform as it itself is a diverse platform of individuals, each with their own opinion or agenda.
I think a platform like The Online Citizen or Singapore Angle would be a better platform to organise.
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Travel expenses? Not that I remember. I gather you mean the research thesis issue?Originally posted by the Bear:look at his track record.. he could not even keep his travel expenses clean!
The issue does show that a key opposition person has to keep his backyard clean, even for the very smallest insignificant things, which can be ridiculous at times.
However, perhaps after a mistake, one should leave the issue to be slowly buried instead of blowing it up. That I have to concur.
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In a way, governments will always have the advantage compared to companies because it relies on taxes whereas the latter relies on profits.Originally posted by googoomuck:Frankly speaking, you can't find great minds in politics. If there's any, MIcrosoft will steal him away.
A company makes those who use their products pay a premium. A government makes everyone pay, even those who do not use their products.
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I have to disagree with you . The forums are more interactive in comparison to web blogs such as theonlinecitizen.com .Originally posted by Melvin Tan:Hi Robert,
Personally, I think using forums would be difficult to organise a common platform as it itself is a diverse platform of individuals, each with their own opinion or agenda.
I think a platform like The Online Citizen or Singapore Angle would be a better platform to organise.
Regards
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I believe both the PAP and the WP, for that matter, opposition parties, make mistakes. The PAP's mistakes cost more on paper because of the power it wields. The issue is how to prevent such mistakes.Originally posted by mancha:As for the "Its is just an honest mistake", Low also forwarded that it was an honest mistake, concerning documents that were clearly and delibrately placed in the briefcase. And it was the Election Committee that decided to not lodge a formal complaint to the police and let the matter pass.
They handled the opposition with mittens.
This "honest mistake", Low and Silvia, post election admitted, cost them some votes.
In terms of votes in Aljunied, I think no one has the answer. The PAP also said that highlighting the Gomez issue ad nauseum cost them votes. In reality, no one has a time machine and everyone bases on deductions.
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By saying this, you are already agreeing with LKY's viewpointOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:By definition, the majority of people are average and below average. -
Hi,Originally posted by Trump_Card:I have to disagree with you . The forums are more interactive in comparison to web blogs such as theonlinecitizen.com .
Another advantage is there are many like-minded dissidents here where we can find our niche .
I don't disagree with you and interactivity was not what I mean. Forums are interactive but they are hardly a channel for organisation.
For every 10 dissidents, there is a pro-status quo or a self-infiltrated agenda carrier who, by their efforts, can engulf the direction of the forum.
We can allude this to why SBF is now known as a pro-PAP forum to some.
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so cuteOriginally posted by Daddy!!:social disorder > national security issues > tanks start rolling > national reserves transfered to switzerland till situation calms down
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It's paranoia.Originally posted by de_middle:so cute 
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malaysia or indonesia says "Singapore's unrest is a threat to us. Thats why we are going in"
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if our government is like the Hokages... willing to lay down their lives for their people, i think i'd respect them