Reuters:Singapore's pension reform plans spark rare protest
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It definitely has created an impact, though the radio station controlled by MIW played down the move. I don't know why people expect the people to gather and carry banners and whatever, knowing this is illegal and people are not given the democracy in doing so. I want to say that those who turned up at least they prove they care by their action, they are better than people who keep talking and do nothing and some are so damn good to communicate about their unrealistic expectation and condemn the silent protest . I suggest these people to start their own protests by carrying banners and all and see what the outcome is.Originally posted by Xephone_xenon:Dont think so.
There is still some kind of impact there.
Just look at the votes during GE.
Its dropping.
In general, people of Singapore are fearful and some inhibited. Many are so afraid they will get caught if they wear black for shopping. Knowing this fact, we did not expect thousands to turn up. As such, the move was a small success on its own. Many of us believe as they plan more of such events, more will come to join afterall we went and came back safely, nobody was arrested. The fear of being caught while wearing black to shop is unfounded. -
There is not sufficient publicity, so all the more people should not have unrealistic expectation that blah blah blah. It was circulated through the net and not in other form of communication. Hope the next time, they will do more on publicising the event. Just to add, event was extended to other shopping malls as well but again with limited publicity not many know about it. My friend told me he went to Raffles City and saw many wore black, Raffles City was one of the venues for the move.Originally posted by reddressman:And I might say it was not a large turnout as an observer.
Have any of you considered that majority in singapore are still , even today, completely unaware of the event which passed?
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Thats the problem with wearing an extremely common colour, you'll never get to gauge accurately.
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The answer to your question is yes. That is why the event was meant to be a shopping trip with people wearing black to send the intended message to the gahmen. Imagine if yesterday the people were to wear black carry banners and march in groups, were they not get caught and blacklisted? So to carry out the event silently is the only sensible way for a start.Originally posted by (human):If permit is needed to obtain for such natural expression, it is as if flowers are not allowed to blossom, nor birds been permitted to sing. Are we not restricted by unjust law that is taking away our people's natural rights? -
Just a thought ...
Do you guys think it will work if we had applied for a permit for a more organised protest ?
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Different people have different unrealistic expectation so what you suggest to please these people? People talk so much but no action, crap! Words are cheap.Originally posted by kramnave:Thats the problem with wearing an extremely common colour, you'll never get to gauge accurately. -
Don't try never know, else is pure speculation.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Just a thought ...
Do you guys think it will work if we had applied for a permit for a more organised protest ? -
Such kind of event which is not supportive of the gahmen's doing will never be approved.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Just a thought ...
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Politically-motivated protests are not allowed ?Originally posted by qlqq9:Such kind of event which is not supportive of the gahmen's doing will never be approved. -
huh ?Originally posted by qlqq9:Different people have different unrealistic expectation so what you suggest to please these people? People talk so much but no action, crap! Words are cheap.
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Talk is easy ...Originally posted by kramnave:huh ? -
If it is not supportive of what they are doing, you think they will approve?Originally posted by Trump_Card:Politically-motivated protests are not allowed ? -
Family cycling events by opposition parties especially so.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Politically-motivated protests are not allowed ? -
If the organiser can start ask ppl wear black why can't he ask ppl wear some other colour ? Very difficult meh ?Originally posted by Trump_Card:Talk is easy ... -
Black is the most appropriate colour for protesting but I know the problem now is black also can be blended easily into the crowds in orchard ...Originally posted by kramnave:If the organiser can start ask ppl wear black why can't he ask ppl wear some other colour ? Very difficult meh ?
I guessed the organizer chose black because it kind of symbolize the way we feel ... -
Yeah which was what i reckoned in the first place, thought black was a lil to common..of which i got the response from qq of words are cheap.....so yeah...a lil bewildered.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Black is the most appropriate colour for protesting but I know the problem now is black also can be blended easily into the crowds in orchard ...
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I got it ! I got it !Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Any photos.....
Is this the first picture in the sgforum? Is there any prize? What is it? Where do I collect it?
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Thanks so much for the pic. It's big and clear.Originally posted by googoomuck:I got it ! I got it !
Is this the first picture in the sgforum? Is there any prize? What is it? Where do I collect it?
Yesterday was just the beginning people show that they have the guts to tell gahmen we are saying no to crap from them.
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Thank you but I stole this picture from somewhere else. I did not take the picture.Originally posted by qlqq9:Thanks so much for the pic. It's big and clear.
Yesterday was just the beginning people show that they have the guts to tell gahmen we are saying no to crap from them.
Rome is not built in one day.
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It is OK. It is meant to show to those who asked for pic and who were not there.Originally posted by googoomuck:Thank you but I stole this picture from somewhere else. I did not take the picture. -
Well more like city of impossibilities...if people can protest in HK and HK is supposed my under a communist regime....what does it make Sillypore??Originally posted by qlqq9:I really have no idea, but think about it anything is possible with the ruling party, "City of Possibilities".
Well, don't know about you all, but many of us have packed our bags for other places more conducive to personal freedom....Other places many not be perfect like Sillypore but at least the corruption, wrong doings are out for all to see...checks and balances....here...hmmmm...leaves much to be desired.... -
I want to but no chance.Originally posted by Coquitlam:Well more like city of impossibilities...if people can protest in HK and HK is supposed my under a communist regime....what does it make Sillypore??
Well, don't know about you all, but many of us have packed our bags for other places more conducive to personal freedom....Other places many not be perfect like Sillypore but at least the corruption, wrong doings are out for all to see...checks and balances....here...hmmmm...leaves much to be desired.... -
the only natural expression i wanna see is beautiful ladies walking around in orchard road naked...Originally posted by (human):If permit is needed to obtain for such natural expression, it is as if flowers are not allowed to blossom, nor birds been permitted to sing. Are we not restricted by unjust law that is taking away our people's natural rights?
clothes are so UNNATURAL....
here is some food for thought... why rules/laws exist...Malaysian police shoot protester as rally turns violent
Posted: 09 September 2007 2318 hrs
KUALA LUMPUR : Malaysian police shot and wounded a protester and arrested 23 others as riots broke out at a political rally in the country's northeast, police and opposition figures said on Sunday.
The head of Terengganu state police said the officer had been forced to open fire as protesters began hurling rocks and bottles when police attempted to disperse them late Saturday.
"When the policeman was hit in the head, this forced him to pull out his gun and he fired a shot in self-defence," Ayub Yaakob told the official Bernama news agency.
"The shot managed to force the attackers to run away," he said, adding that 23 people were arrested for various offences.
Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak defended the police action, saying it was their duty to ensure law and order.
"This is within the jurisdiction of the police. The government did not give any instruction to the police," Bernama quoted him as saying.
The rally, held by three opposition parties, was aimed at promoting free and fair elections.
Ayub said two men were injured in the shooting. But Syed Azman Syed Ahmad of the fundamentalist Pan-Malaysia Islamic (PAS) party told AFP that just one protester was shot and that he was in hospital in a critical condition.
Syed Azman said the violence erupted after police fired tear gas and used water canons to break up the peaceful gathering.
He said the situation became tense when police refused to allow speakers to proceed.
"The police gave orders to arrest me and the other speakers. At this point, the police fired tear gas at a nearby group and used water canons to disperse the crowd," he said.
Tian Chua of the People's Justice Party said police had been "heavy-handed."
"The last-minute decision of the police to revoke the permit for the gathering which they had originally granted is not only unreasonable but also highly suspect, and points towards political meddling," he said. - AFP/de -
Sure, if you are in the "more equal" category.Originally posted by Trump_Card:Just a thought ...
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A shameless dishonorable dictatorship?Originally posted by Coquitlam:Well more like city of impossibilities...if people can protest in HK and HK is supposed my under a communist regime....what does it make Sillypore??.