What happens when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil population?
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Yes, it is possible. The other "carrot" could be the HDB upgrading again.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:All it takes is another "Progress Package" just before the next GE to make voters forget about the annuity fiasco. -
will singapore sink if so many heavy stuffs is on this island
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If heaven allows, it will.Originally posted by jay_rocks:will singapore sink if so many heavy stuffs is on this island -
Evil regime? That's a massive understatement...Originally posted by qlqq9:Oh no. so we will continue to be oppressed by the evil regime. If these people are voted out of power, the annuity plan may change or terminate.
Think about it : this is just a modern version of slavery. Through inducing means to enslave you so that you'd be working your life off to service debts and other financial obligations (from mortgages for over-inflated public housing leases conveniently known as "ownerships" to state-induced inflations exponentially outweighing the rate of natural inflation), how could an average middle-income chap, through making an honest living, realistically expect to escape from the clutches of such slavery to attain financial independence?
After all, the only difference between gangsters and this regime is the latter having the constitutional backing to carry out their activities... On the basis of that, it's hard to believe there could actually be bigger organised criminals than rogue governments. -
PAP doesnt govern how much those greedy food court ppl price their food.....Originally posted by lolxzxz:we dont vote for PAP for crowded transport and expensive FOOD COURT food
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But they do give excuses for the food court ppl to raise their price, right? Don't forget, greedy PAP oso raise their salary, GST & ERP etcOriginally posted by venny:PAP doesnt govern how much those greedy food court ppl price their food.....
Worse, nobody govern PAP. -
The govt never talk about the govt debt. Anybody know the amount of
our govt debt, aka public debt?
The foreigner immigration policy probably has something to do with reducing this debt. It is to help repay the debt but also cause other problems.
Singapore ranked 9 in the list of countries by govt debt, 100.6% of GDP.
That is very high. -
I think you have a brain of a sheep....Originally posted by eagle:If GST was not raised
If housing prices/taxes of profits from property sales were not raised
If CPF withdrawal age was not raised
If Annuity was not to be made compulsory
most people will want bigger and bigger houses
Solution? Increase taxes by so much such that you will never be able to earn enough to buy a big house. You will thus have to settle for a smaller house, which will in turn help Singapore achieve the necessary space for 6.5 million population
If ERP was not raised
If COE was not introduced
there will be too many vehicles on our roads. How then will our roads be able to accodomate 6.5 million of population?
Solution? Tax road users even more such that they can barely afford a car. Restrict COE further to restrict the number of cars (COE price will then be even higher)
What do you think? -
pray tell, why say you that?
being cynical bastards created by the cynical bastards who are running and ruining the place, we need reasonsOriginally posted by Gazelle:I think you have a brain of a sheep.... -
U can think whatever you like.Originally posted by Gazelle:I think you have a brain of a sheep.... It's your brain anyway.
I don't mind what you think, nor what others think. What is important to me is what I think.
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He has nothing else to say. Let him beOriginally posted by the Bear:pray tell, why say you that?
being cynical bastards created by the cynical bastards who are running and ruining the place, we need reasons -
wrong...
eagle has the brain of an eagle... -
a) You dont pay GST when you buy propertyOriginally posted by eagle:If GST was not raised
If housing prices/taxes of profits from property sales were not raised
If CPF withdrawal age was not raised
If Annuity was not to be made compulsory
most people will want bigger and bigger houses
Solution? Increase taxes by so much such that you will never be able to earn enough to buy a big house. You will thus have to settle for a smaller house, which will in turn help Singapore achieve the necessary space for 6.5 million population
If ERP was not raised
If COE was not introduced
there will be too many vehicles on our roads. How then will our roads be able to accodomate 6.5 million of population?
Solution? Tax road users even more such that they can barely afford a car. Restrict COE further to restrict the number of cars (COE price will then be even higher)
What do you think?
b) Stamp duties and property tax has been steady for the past donkey years.
Only changes are development charges aiming to slowdown the current En Bloc fever
c) Singapore flats and apartment will get higher and higher, that doesnt mean it will get smaller and smaller.
d) Singapore government is investing billions to widen Singapore MRT and LRT network and improving the comfort and efficicency of public transport system, eventually many people would prefer to take publich transport and use their car during off peak hours.
Thank God that our government doesnt have a sheep brain like yours to think of your suggestion as a solution. -
c) Flats have been getting both higher AND smaller. Just compare a 5-room flat built in the early nineties with a 5-room flat built since 2000. The difference in size is very obvious, especially if you look at the living room. In the past there wasn't even such a thing as a Civil Defence shelter within a flat, but now there is, and it's counted as a room!Originally posted by Gazelle:c) Singapore flats and apartment will get higher and higher, that doesnt mean it will get smaller and smaller.
d) Singapore government is investing billions to widen Singapore MRT and LRT network and improving the comfort and efficicency of public transport system, eventually many people would prefer to take publich transport and use their car during off peak hours.
d) The only change I see in the transport system is that the MRT stations are being transformed into shopping centres, which has nothing to do with the business of transporting people. -
we don't pay GST for residential property, however... other properties will attract GST...
guess how that affects the normal Average Joe -
What happens when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil population?
like tat lor...
Of coz, there is a population limit a location can hold... depending by technology, adminstrating and blah blah... But it can be shown tat if a place is too crowded, people will move out and find other better place to settle...
If Singapore does reach 6.5 mil population, it can only mean 2 things ...
1) Government is very successful in promoting babies
2) The amount of people who are willing to stand those so called "shit" and settle in signapore is more than the amount of people who are not willing to stand those so called "shit" and migrate out.
A question on whether Signapore is able to hold 6.5 mil population is a difficult quesiton too... It is not for me ( a lowly educated person ) to analysis... Probably, it is based on some model overseas which I dont noe... -
What happens when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil population?
Anything else is mere speculation.
But one thing is definite.
Queue.
You Q Q here
You Q Q there
Q here
Q there
Q everyhere.
I guess it'll not be too bad. Your turn will come.
Except for the toilet.
Six point five mil people gotta sh!t somewhere.
ERP?
Excretion Removal Pricing.
Bring Your Own Bag.
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Originally posted by mancha:What happens when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil population?
Anything else is mere speculation.
But one thing is definite.
Queue.
You Q Q here
You Q Q there
Q here
Q there
Q everyhere.
I guess it'll not be too bad. Your turn will come.
Except for the toilet.
Six point five mil people gotta sh!t somewhere.
ERP?
Excretion Removal Pricing.
Bring Your Own Bag.
Hong Kong managed to do so (squeeze 6 million into a snot like Singapore) ...
And to a horrendous effect . The people have became intolerant and impatient that they will lose their temper if you walk slowly you are blocking their way .
Their walking pace reflects the the hectic environment . -
at least hong kong has a free market system and the people have a strong voice towards any government proposed policies.
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This is the one thing the local government failed to compare with ...Originally posted by mistyblue:at least hong kong has a free market system and the people have a strong voice towards any government proposed policies.
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Dr M has already warned of the possibilitiesOriginally posted by Spartans:Can u be more exact? Someplace = ...? -
a) Note that I said taxes on profits on properties sales. How did u ever link it to GST when buying properties? I wonder...Originally posted by Gazelle:a) You dont pay GST when you buy property
b) Stamp duties and property tax has been steady for the past donkey years.
Only changes are development charges aiming to slowdown the current En Bloc fever
c) Singapore flats and apartment will get higher and higher, that doesnt mean it will get smaller and smaller.
d) Singapore government is investing billions to widen Singapore MRT and LRT network and improving the comfort and efficicency of public transport system, eventually many people would prefer to take publich transport and use their car during off peak hours.
Thank God that our government doesnt have a sheep brain like yours to think of your suggestion as a solution.
c) It is a fact that it is HDBs and Condos floor areas has been getting smaller. Are you to contradict that?
d) Many people => you mean you did a survey?
Lastly, please take note that I'm talking about the what ifs when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil people. Such a situation has not reached yet, and we are free to think consider what will happen.
I seriously wonder about your tiny brain capacity and poor comprehension skills. I listed my views and ask for what you think; not asking for you to call others with a sheep brain. A person with a normal EQ level will know not to put down others when others are listing their views on the possible future.
Thank god you are the only one around in Singapore like that (I hope). The government would be ashamed to even have a supporter like you. -
a) Then why link GST hike to buying bigger property? Do you think that by reducing GST by 2% a lower income family will be able to upgrade?Originally posted by eagle:a) Note that I said taxes on profits on properties sales. How did u ever link it to GST when buying properties? I wonder...
c) It is a fact that it is HDBs and Condos floor areas has been getting smaller. Are you to contradict that?
d) Many people => you mean you did a survey?
Lastly, please take note that I'm talking about the what ifs when Singapore reaches 6.5 mil people. Such a situation has not reached yet, and we are free to think consider what will happen.
I seriously wonder about your tiny brain capacity and poor comprehension skills. I listed my views and ask for what you think; not asking for you to call others with a sheep brain. A person with a normal EQ level will know not to put down others when others are listing their views on the possible future.
Thank god you are the only one around in Singapore like that (I hope). The government would be ashamed to even have a supporter like you.
b) As far as I know property sales profit will goes into your income tax and income tax have been going down, not up.
c) Yes size of flat has gotten smaller, but the quality and facilities has gotten better. Are you expecting your flat to become 50% smaller when population double?
WHAT if Singaporeans are all as naive as you? -
so.. does the PAP care at all? No man...
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There will be more crime since most of the new population is converted from foreign talant. When we import the talent from certain country, we import their social ills and what not ....Originally posted by eagle:If GST was not raised
If housing prices/taxes of profits from property sales were not raised
If CPF withdrawal age was not raised
If Annuity was not to be made compulsory
most people will want bigger and bigger houses
Solution? Increase taxes by so much such that you will never be able to earn enough to buy a big house. You will thus have to settle for a smaller house, which will in turn help Singapore achieve the necessary space for 6.5 million population
If ERP was not raised
If COE was not introduced
there will be too many vehicles on our roads. How then will our roads be able to accodomate 6.5 million of population?
Solution? Tax road users even more such that they can barely afford a car. Restrict COE further to restrict the number of cars (COE price will then be even higher)
What do you think?