It's the economy, stupid.
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Originally posted by dragg:when do anyone ever come up with a solution before they become the ruling govt?
That is exactly the problem with Singapore's Oppositions!
Opposition can bring diverse voices into the Parliament. This is indeed true. But thats not all.
Singapore's opposition candidates always criticize the government's policies and ways to deal with problems, but rarely any can actually suggest a more effective and practical alternative.
True there should be more oppositions in the parliament. But these should also be able oppositions. How can you vote someone in when all he does is complain and no actual planning or responses to issues. -
i seriously doubt it.Originally posted by Trump_Card:I'm not being skeptical ... but can you name some examples for our convenience ?
oppositions do not have the resources and detailed info needed to come up with solutions. -
Labor party in Australia. They plan to increase Superannuation contributions if they are elected. They deem the current rate to be insufficient for Aussie retirement savings. Full details go internet and search. You can monitor the American elections also. They don't go around doing nothing but taking a loudhailer and ask you where is the money.Originally posted by Trump_Card:I'm not being skeptical ... but can you name some examples for our convenience ? -
If you are feeling this way yourself, I feel sorry for you.Originally posted by maurizio13:We are much like China, good economy but limited human rights.
We are like caged hamsters.
We lived, but we are not living.
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The opposition has only 2 seat in parliament (furthermore, each from different party). So how do you expect them to come up with any solution? Any proposal which the opposition come up can easily be thrown out by the ruling party.
In their current situation, the oppositions are more suitable to act as a media to voice out the public concerns which the ruling party has conveniently ignored . -
What will happen if half of the local & foreign MNC decide to close shop in Singapore in 3 months time?
What will happen? Huh?
It's the economy, stupid! -
Ever read the WP Manifesto ? Rather than sit back and condemn the government why not read the WP Manifesto and see what they have to offer ?
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Don't understand what you are getting at...Originally posted by rojak12:What will happen if half of the local & foreign MNC decide to close shop in Singapore in 3 months time?
What will happen? Huh?
It's the economy, stupid!
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since when dey got shop
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No I don't mean that. I am trying to say, what most of us need is a JOB to have an income.Originally posted by royston_ang:Don't understand what you are getting at...
Do you mean if more oppositions, the MNC will want to pack and close shop?
And therefore,
It's the economy, stupid.
Not what human rights blah blah blah, no freedom blah blah blah etc etc.... -
PAP said economy doing well.Originally posted by rojak12:Is it..how come I don't know?
It's the economy, stupid. Cheers! -
MPs are PAP's puppets.Originally posted by royston_ang:No debate means we have to accept everything the ruling party propose. If this is the case, there's no need a waste money on the parliament or hold election. Why pay mp to debate in parliament when everything already decided?
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I feel sorry for you too. Your inability to think, if you feel so good about being a hamster in a cage, it's entirely your own volition, but I choose to differ, that's why having a democratic system is more suitable for me.Originally posted by rojak12:If you are feeling this way yourself, I feel sorry for you.
May I know what limited human rights made you feel so terrible? -
Originally posted by royston_ang:
By allowing the oppositions in the parliament, the people have to vote the oppositions in. How many of the fearful 66.6% are willing?
Every decision which the gov made can affect our daily life and livelihood so we can't afford bad decision. Which is the reason why opposition voice is important in the parliament. Every policy should be carefully scrutinized and debated, and the public concerns considered and addressed before implementation.
Supporting PAP doesn't guarantee strong economy and low job rate, neither do supporting opposition. I would rather have both PAP [b]and opposition in parliament so as to ensure that there's less cases of "paying millions more to keep ministers from being corruption free" and "increasing GST to help the poor". [/b] -
I am very happy. Thanks for your kind regards.Originally posted by maurizio13:I feel sorry about you too. Your inability to think, if you feel so good about being a hamster in a cage, it's entirely your own volition, but I choose to differ, that's why having a democratic system is more suitable for me.
Btw, what changes will make you happy? I am interested to know, if you want to share. -
fearful 66.6% ? what a term to use.Originally posted by qlqq9:By allowing the oppositions in the parliament, the people have to vote the oppositions in. How many of the fearful 66.6% are willing? -
Maybe the 33.4% of them are BRAVE.Originally posted by kramnave:fearful 66.6% ? what a term to use.
I think I got my maths right. -
Caged hamsters are very happy too.Originally posted by rojak12:I am very happy. Thanks for your kind regards.
Btw, what changes will make you happy? I am interested to know, if you want to share.
So long as they get their food and water.
Don't see any point in telling you what will make me happy, because you do not have the ability to make it happen. -
Ok, small girl.Originally posted by maurizio13:Caged hamsters are very happy too.
So long as they get their food and water.
Don't see any point in telling you what will make me happy, because you do not have the ability to make it happen. -
66.6% think tat way...Originally posted by rojak12:Maybe the 33.4% of them are BRAVE.
I think I got my maths right.
33.4% think the other way...
I m eligible to vote but I m lucky to be not the 66.6% and not the 33.4%. And thus, wont be scolded by both side... -
Originally posted by ispyyy:66.6% think tat way...
33.4% think the other way...
I m eligible to vote but I m lucky to be not the 66.6% and not the 33.4%. And thus, wont be scolded by both side... I oso neva vote..walkover -
then, both of us "phew" lor...Originally posted by kramnave: I oso neva vote..walkover
No wonder, we see so many people squeeze nowadays but we dont kana... -
OK, to be exact some of the 66.6% are fearful voters. Of course, among this 66.6% there are people who went all the way for the oppressive regime.Originally posted by kramnave:fearful 66.6% ? what a term to use. -
The economy sizzles quarter after quarter.
However, this doesn't translate to more wealth for Singaporeans
The middle class has stagnated for years. The lower income are struggling to cope with inflation. Only the rich get richer because these are the highly paid professionals and businessmen.
Thr rich poor divide is evident in all developed countries but Singapore is worsening at a rate worse than many other contemporaries.
There are more jobs created year after year.
The govt were questioned on the details of the report. How many jobs went to Singaporeans and how many to foreigners. Till now, there has been no response.
Something to hide? Most likely, Singapore's population has been growing at a staggering pace for a few years now, one of the fastest among developed nations. This is due to the massive influx of foreigners who were invited here to drive the economy.
To sum it all up, it seems that the economy's performance and Singapore's world standing matters more to this governance than domestic priorities.
It is foolhardy to expect opposition parties to come up with ideas when these suggestions are either "stolen" or dismissed as rubbish. Opposition has only 2 seats out of 88 in parliament; the voice is akin to a squeak. Only when the presence has grown, then may they broach concrete proposals. Who then can blame that opposition can only criticise as their roles at this stage are only effective to this extent?
Criticism may give many the impression that it is armchair talk but at least it keeps the govt on their toes. Just like the booming Singapore political blogosphere which ensures that the govt is accountable to us citizens.
Even PAP did not have much of an idea too when Singapore "suddenly" achieved its independence. "Merdeka" was never expected nor desired. However, economic experts were hired and Singapore started off on the right track then.
Opposition should be given their chance when voting time comes. -
At least, China has better labour rights than this regime - for a start, they have a variable minimum wage policy that commensurates with the living standards of their respective regions.Originally posted by maurizio13:We are much like China, good economy but limited human rights.
We are like caged hamsters.
We lived, but we are not living.