2 cyclists died unecessarily
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Just a few days ago, 2 cyclists died on the roads.They are unnecssary deaths.They should have cycled on pavements.I often see walkways besides roads have few persons walking but some cyclists still cycle on the road.They don't really care about their safety.
The govt is also wrong not to tell cyclists to ride on pavements.I believe it is an offence only if a cyclist rides dangerously on walkways.
Tampinese town has been experimenting allowing cyclists to ride on walkways.The experiment should be immediately implemented nationwide. -
were they debating while cycling?
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I thought they allow already?Originally posted by PRP:Just a few days ago, 2 cyclists died on the roads.They are unnecssary deaths.They should have cycled on pavements.I often see walkways besides roads have few persons walking but some cyclists still cycle on the road.They don't really care about their safety.
The govt is also wrong not to tell cyclists to ride on pavements.I believe it is an offence only if a cyclist rides dangerously on walkways.
Tampinese town has been experimenting allowing cyclists to ride on walkways.The experiment should be immediately implemented nationwide. -
Not yet, official stand is cycling on pavement is illegal.Originally posted by eagle:I thought they allow already?
Stated by Ministers, Traffic Police, Police.
Except part of Tampines, where there is an experiment going on now. -
Why must the mindset be that cyclists have to be confined to pavements? Is it because of the notion that they do not pay road taxes like 'legitimate' road users?
This is simply pure selfishness, and horrific contempt over another fellow road-user. Our society boasts of being 1st world, but are in fact, still bound by 3rd world mentality. Were we truly deserving of such grace, we would treat all road users as equals.
Car-drivers still drive with the misguided belief that cyclists and motorcyclists are 'mosquitoes' to be swatted aside. Likewise, motorcyclists zip in and out of lanes without regard to their own safety or that of other cars.
Until there is some significant change in our ethical mindset, i will have no sympathy for car-drivers responsible for causing the deaths of cyclists. -
Did they die during the WP cycling event?Originally posted by PRP:Just a few days ago, 2 cyclists died on the roads.They are unnecssary deaths.They should have cycled on pavements.I often see walkways besides roads have few persons walking but some cyclists still cycle on the road.They don't really care about their safety.
The govt is also wrong not to tell cyclists to ride on pavements.I believe it is an offence only if a cyclist rides dangerously on walkways.
Tampinese town has been experimenting allowing cyclists to ride on walkways.The experiment should be immediately implemented nationwide. -
This is the actual problem. In most other countries cyclists travel on the roads almost all the time and the motorists respect them as road users. In Singapore motorists treat cyclists as pests instead and therefore this is one of the contributing factors in accidents involving cyclists.Originally posted by BillyBong:Car-drivers still drive with the misguided belief that cyclists and motorcyclists are 'mosquitoes' to be swatted aside. Likewise, motorcyclists zip in and out of lanes without regard to their own safety or that of other cars.
Until there is some significant change in our ethical mindset, i will have no sympathy for car-drivers responsible for causing the deaths of cyclists.
By the way I believe work is going on to construct cycling tracks in parks that would eventually allow cyclists to travel to most parts of the island without having to go on the roads. However, the purpose of these tracks is more recreational than transportation. -
In switzerland, they actually have specific road lanes for cyclists and rollerbladers. In the city of Bern, they have lanes for trams/trains/cars/cyclists. Fancy a road with a myriad of road-users all respecting one another's rights to use the same tarred surface.Originally posted by dakkon_blackblade:This is the actual problem. In most other countries cyclists travel on the roads almost all the time and the motorists respect them as road users. In Singapore motorists treat cyclists as pests instead and therefore this is one of the contributing factors in accidents involving cyclists.
By the way I believe work is going on to construct cycling tracks in parks that would eventually allow cyclists to travel to most parts of the island without having to go on the roads. However, the purpose of these tracks is more recreational than transportation.
Unfortunately, our people are not yet ready for this kind of affluence. -
if everyone drive courteously than there will be a lot less road accidents
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RIP.
On the brightside, the two cyclists were lawyers. -
The problem is not in driving, or cycling or riding, or even walking.
The problem is that the general graciousness of our people is rather low.
This in turn affect the other aspects of our lives.
Many times we have brought up the fact that Singaporeans are rude, and uncouth. Each time we are given one example to the contrary.
Thus we become complacent about improving our social graces. More than thirty years of courtesy campaign we had, and it produced barren results. Our young adults today, have lived through those courtesy campaign years, as students; what did they learn? In those thirty years, how many children went through our education system? Does the results today commensurate with all those years of courtesy campaign?
The fault lies in our failure to inculcate social etiquette to our young. The fault lies with the government, the parents, and society in general. And as we keep failing to teach our young manners, bad behaviour in our society will persist.
We therefore will have yet another young man, killing his passenger, or commuters waiting at a busstop.
And cyclist will ride on pavements, to stay alive. -
On the bright side, the cyclists are lawyers ???
Does lawyers deserve more to die ???
What is so bright about being a dead lawyers ???
Cyclists should stay on the road.
The area of the pavement is already so narrow and most of the cyclists disregard the safety of the pedestrians and barge through without any care. -
The government should raise the road tax drastically to discourage people from driving. There's too many cars on the road and too many impatient drivers.
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then what if a cyclist hit some old folk while riding recklessly on the pavement?
It doesnt matter where one rides, its the safety mindset that has yet to be kicked into the public. -
I was watching a movie and one of the characters asid that they call it a road incident nowadays and no longer a road accident because accident implies no one is to blame.Originally posted by holygoh:if everyone drive courteously than there will be a lot less road accidents -
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are there necessary deaths?
this is ming zhong zhu ding
even if not for this incident, they will oso kena something else....... -
There are two sides to the coin. on the hand, a cyclist cycle dangerously on the pavement may cause injury to pedestrians. There is report of death too. .. then many were saying they should be on the road instead .. I had a few brushes with these cyclist too .. anyway, on the road, when I see cyclist, I change lane to give them as much space as possible, but when road condition doesn't allow I will just follow behind them until I can overtake safely. I was a cyclist before and I know how dangerous it can be when motorist do not give way. However, you do see some cyclist that will suddenly turn right in front of you especially at the change of traffic light. They somehow expect motorist to give way,. I think this is very wrong lor ...Originally posted by PRP:Just a few days ago, 2 cyclists died on the roads.They are unnecssary deaths.They should have cycled on pavements.I often see walkways besides roads have few persons walking but some cyclists still cycle on the road.They don't really care about their safety.
The govt is also wrong not to tell cyclists to ride on pavements.I believe it is an offence only if a cyclist rides dangerously on walkways.
Tampinese town has been experimenting allowing cyclists to ride on walkways.The experiment should be immediately implemented nationwide. -
Roads or pavement, as long as you are not considerate, you are just asking for trouble.
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an old lady died days later after being hit by a cyclist who ran off....he was later caught but was only fined as it wasn't considered a traffic accident, just reckless endangerment.....so where do you draw the line? everyday i get the irritating ringing of bells as i walk along the pavement and some of these cyclists move at fairly high speeds too....
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Poor old lady. The penalty should be stronger...Originally posted by countdracula:an old lady died days later after being hit by a cyclist who ran off....he was later caught but was only fined as it wasn't considered a traffic accident, just reckless endangerment.....so where do you draw the line? everyday i get the irritating ringing of bells as i walk along the pavement and some of these cyclists move at fairly high speeds too.... -
pls lor... they should make a cyclists lane instead... they ride like they own the road..
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i am against riding on pavement by cyclist
call me selfish .. BUt I DUN CARE
1st of all.. why must we give way to cyclist...
most of them dun even have the basic manners to say thank u when we have to walk on the grass or kerbs so they could pass
den got alot of maniac cyclist.. ride so fast..
got one time i was walking and not paying attention, suddenly one cyclist in front of me zoom pass me, and we almost crashed into each other.. u noe wad the fucx he did, he scold me cb... and sped off
this kind of people.. must realli whack them hard -
ltr ride on walkways pple kena bang..
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I almost kill a cyclist the other day... was exiting from 7-11 at the neighbourhood mall across the road, luckily I was opening the door slowly, else I would have smash the glass door into him.Originally posted by Pitot:then what if a cyclist hit some old folk while riding recklessly on the pavement?
It doesnt matter where one rides, its the safety mindset that has yet to be kicked into the public.
till today, I still don't understand why he have to cycle so fast at the mall...