More protest marches break out in Burma
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Which was why I said I dunno whether they followed ROE or not. Come on, the situation so chaotic, who really knows what happened? Whether you push me first or I push you first (figuratively speaking).Originally posted by soul_rage:But soldiers are criminals according to Military Law if they open fire at unarmed civilians.
ROE is that unless you think you are threatened, you cannot open fire at innocent civilians.
Obeying the president or constitution may or may not protect them.
I'm quite sure the innocent civilians did not gather innocently at their 'tiananmen' and hurl abuses at the junta. -
Apathy kills.Originally posted by t_a_s:Singapore as the ASEAN Chairman should do something such as expelling Burma and cut ties with the government. But I think Singapore has a lot of trading with Burma, so it is useless
If you people think the junta is hopeless, why blame them? Hitler will always be Hitler even as the world looks on. Unless you think your scolding can knock some sense into them, it won't change a thing. We should blame people who have the ability to change things but didn't. -
Monks can withstand the pain. They have learnt to look beyond life and death. Thats why the military junta try all means to get rid of them.
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so this is all done in the name of peace?Originally posted by Icemoon:So said that? The Archbishop.
Who is the Archbishop? A representative of the people (in a sense).
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Asia/Story/A1Story20070928-27583.html]Report shot Dead at close range
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20070928-27469.html]Singaporean shot and kicked..
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Undeniably, what the Archbishop was saying, to the effect, was that they need more people like the innocent Jap reporter to be shot.Originally posted by 4getmenot:
True or false?
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If he doesn't .. can you do the Burmese a favour by pulling out the plug?Originally posted by Manager433:Myanmar's ailing prime minister remains under treatment at a Singapore hospital....
http://kadaung.blogspot.com/
I hope he die of heart attack tonite. -
it would be nice if you were the one who got shot in place for a change... i'm sure it wouldn;t had being much of a news or a bother to anyone..Originally posted by Icemoon:Undeniably, what the Archbishop was saying, to the effect, was that they need more people like the innocent Jap reporter to be shot.
True or false? 
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you think hes really here for some ailing treatment? ..Isn't it so much of a coincidence with the demonstration happening now in burma..?Originally posted by Icemoon:If he doesn't .. can you do the Burmese a favour by pulling out the plug? -
But a single death is a tragedy .. the Man of Steel said so.Originally posted by 4getmenot:it would be nice if you were the one who got shot in place for a change... i'm sure it wouldn;t had being much of a news or a bother to anyone.. -
According to the blog, he has been here for three to four months.Originally posted by 4getmenot:you think hes really here for some ailing treatment? ..Isn't it so much of a coincidence with the demonstration happening now in burma..? -
his family and senior general too?Originally posted by Icemoon:According to the blog, he has been here for three to four months. -
I'm not sure where is everybody now though.Originally posted by 4getmenot:his family and senior general too?
According to the blog, the senior general was here at the beginning of the year.The junta leader, Senior General Than Shwe, 73, also visited Singapore in January for what an embassy official said were medical checks.
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Soe Win is in Singapore for long-term treatment, the current Junta's PM.Originally posted by Icemoon: -
U just have to read a few actual eventOriginally posted by walesa:Are you sure you even know what you're talking about (what's new here?)? What's the whole garb about the western model of human rights and civil liberty got to do here?
If you haven't a clue what moral authority can do to increase the respect and pressure an alliance can have on one (potential) member state, just take a look at the EU. In recent years, just consider how many countries from the former Eastern-bloc have actually had their membership application turned away/delayed because of their failure to meet certain provisions/safeguards (anything from susceptible human rights records to streamlining their constitution to meet the requirements of EU membership) that need to be fulfilled for an EU-membership.
Now, try comparing ASEAN (which is nothing more than a loose association of rogue and/or corrupt regimes that are basically inefficient in terms of exerting any sort of an influence on others) to the EU. Is it any wonder why the international community disregards the role of ASEAN at large and instead regard the UN to be a more viable outlet to resolve the crisis?
1) Japan will continue to provide Aid to Myanmar dispite the killing of its field reporter.
Sanction is not the right treatment. At this moment no Asian countries are talking about cutting trades or sanction.
2) Did u read that the UN envoy actually visited MFA before proceeding to Myanmar. So why would international community disregard the role of Asean. Why even drop by SG? or they should even talk to PRC first given their closed ties. Even PRC is not moving.
At the end of the day, Asean will remain one of the key grouping to help to resolve this crisi.
In brief Moral Authority -- the minute the military Junta start shooting they lost it already. The question is how do you transit these folks hand over the military uniform to wear a civilian ones. And slowly transit the regime.
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" From internal source: It is heard that the junta has set a plot to assassinate the most senior venerable monks (Sanga Maha Naryaka) tonight as if it is done by the monks involved in the protest.
We still have live contacts in Burma. We are getting reports of a massacre at a temple last night, around 200 monks killed. We will try to confirm this as soon as possible.
They are arresting and imprisoning monks- so far over 700 have been arrested.
They have raided dozens of monasteries
While the regime is stating only 9 have been killed the number is far closer to 200
They have snipers on tops of buildings to pick of the leaders
They are trying to suppress the violence. "
Source from Facebook internal updates. -
There goes your peaceful protest. Not really gonna do much.
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The boss has runned off?
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Huh .. trying to paint a picture of monks killing monks?Originally posted by LazerLordz:From internal source: It is heard that the junta has set a plot to assassinate the most senior venerable monks (Sanga Maha Naryaka) tonight as if it is done by the monks involved in the protest.
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Yes.Originally posted by Icemoon:Huh .. trying to paint a picture of monks killing monks?
In fact, there have been reports of soldiers from the 22nd Division being tasked to act as agent provocateurs in order to stir up more trouble in Yangon and Mandalay. -
The people involved in the '88 crackdownOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Yes.
In fact, there have been reports of soldiers from the 22nd Division being tasked to act as agent provocateurs in order to stir up more trouble in Yangon and Mandalay. -
History is in the making.
But this is also history repeating.
What happens in Myanmar today, happened in Europe 200 years ago.
Just that Asia is backward!
Military is might! That's why every country, every gahmen, every ruler, every emperor has army.
Human will always kill human since Adam. We call ourselves intelligent but human is the only creature that kills it own kind!!!! -
It will be expected ... this kind of tactic is used favourably to give them a reason for crackdown. especially dealing with peaceful protest. they gonna make it not so peaceful. So why the peaceful protests from the beginning if they inevitably gonna get shut out. Now left small groups of protesters being chased around.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yes.
In fact, there have been reports of soldiers from the 22nd Division being tasked to act as agent provocateurs in order to stir up more trouble in Yangon and Mandalay.
They dont need sanctions.. or aid... what the protesters need are Ak's , grenades and heavy machine guns!!!
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Yeah man .. storm the Bastilles and save Ms Suu Kyi and the NLD leaders!Originally posted by BadzMaro:They dont need sanctions.. or aid... what the protesters need are Ak's , grenades and heavy machine guns!!! -
Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:
what rubbish .. you mean beasts don't kill their own kind?
Human will always kill human since Adam. We call ourselves intelligent but human is the [b]only creature that kills it own kind!!!![/b]
