Singapore are worst then Burma! Why?Because...
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Here we go again - Atobe
never misses a chance to bark vehemently at our Government, for whatever reason best known to him. I have this strange feeling that LKY has had squeezed his balls and he is trying hard to get even.
Just to entertain him, hear ye.
Singapore has to be worse then Burma {Myanmar} - simply for the fact that as a First World Country, we still have educated persons behaving as goons to work for AND protect the political interests of the MIW government, behaving no better then the goons kept and maintained by the Third World Military Junta of Myanmar.
Only a goon will compare Singapore with Myanmar. There is more in life than politics and we are thankful to the many who work for AND protect the political interests of the MIW government......and the general well being of the people. Somebody in the political areana may have had squeezed your balls hard but the rest of us are free and easy. We would be happy to see you go and squeeze LKY or LHL but I don't see any reason why we should be helping you.
These goons will not have any conscience or moral values and are blind to the Confucian values towards country and family, but will support an wretched rule simply to preserve themselves.
Correction - preserve themselves and the majority of common folks who have no grudges with the ruling party. Look at the people - are they not happy? Ask them whether they want to live in Singapore or Myanmar. As for the minority who have had their balls squeezed, good luck to them - try HEAVEN, it may be a better place to live in than Singapore.
The goons in a First World Singapore are no different from the goons working in Third World Myanmar - despite the education standards - they have no respect for human or institutional dignity, and will raid one's home or institutions in the middle of the night, and torment their targetted individuals simply to get the confession that they wish to hear.
Again, only a goon will compare Singapore with Myanmar. We will only raid the home of those who are trying to cause instability and insecurity to the majority of peace-loving people. And don't harp on age old story. Are you telling us no first world democratic country resort to "torment" to get the information they want. Ask Iraq. Some bastards simply need to be squeezed for the safety of the majority.
Singapore status as a First World Country is just a delusion to serve the political vanity of the POWER OF ONE, for the purpose of increasing public status on the Global Stage.
If serving the political vanity of the POWER OF ONE eventually leads to the peace, progress and prosperity of the entire population; so be it. If we nurture that ONE to be powerful and mighty who in turn gives us and our children a good life, why not? There are always people who are unhappy with the system, any system. They are waiting for chaos and riots. Who kicked and shot the protesters in Myanmar? Could be one of those who were squeezed by the Juntas. He cannot kick the Juntas so he can only kick a big fuss and probably kick the poor chap next to him. It is only human, or is it ?
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Are you for a moment suggesting people demonstrate for their own amusement? Look, demonstrations and strikes happen all over the world - from the ultra-prosperous US to the desperately-poor Myanmar.Originally posted by citymax:But do you really want to see such thing happening in our own country.To see our fellow countrymen killing one another...i simply cannot imagine it.
I just wish the situation in Maynmar can improve and hope the goverment can stop using violence on its own citizens.
Or are you suggesting the lack of demonstrations is actually a good sign of stability - even if that should come at a price of seeing "your fellow countrymen" ruthlessly exploited? -
If singaporeans were to think of protesting, then i think its a lose-lose situation. PAP still stand strong and will think of ways to increase penalties and make singaporeans' lives harder. So its wise to wait for the next GE
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haha,pls read properly before u want to comment on my msg.Originally posted by walesa:Are you for a moment suggesting people demonstrate for their own amusement? Look, demonstrations and strikes happen all over the world - from the ultra-prosperous US to the desperately-poor Myanmar.
Or are you suggesting the lack of demonstrations is actually a good sign of stability - even if that should come at a price of seeing "your fellow countrymen" ruthlessly exploited?
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Hi, qlqq9, there is no need to tell people that you are not doing any charity work. All you do here is to seek attention for your political agenda. Your refusal to come with me to visit the old folks and cheer them up with your lunatic tunes are ACTIONS that speak lounder than your VIBES.Originally posted by qlqq9:Hi, LazerLordz, there is no need for people to keep boasting that they are doing voluntary or charity work. People who do it wholeheartedly and sincerely will not seek attention. ACtions speak louder than words. -
Hi,Originally posted by blackhat007:Heh, even those Burmese Monks and Nuns are allow to march in thousand of numbers, and those citizens are allow to gather around and march to protest against their 'Military' government!!!
Now, now down here in Singapore, we are not rule by the military and not a military state, we are a Republic state ...but our fate is damn different.
We can't even gather with 4 or more person to stage a protest against the bad policies from our greedy government.
Look at the different below...
The military regime allow their citizens to do this.....with great numbers!
I do not think the statements can be quantified. If the military regime "allowed" their people to protest, they would not have sent troops to quell the gatherings.
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Hi,Originally posted by crimson soldier:What will the police do? Me thinks a lot, a lot of bloodshed....
I beg to differ. Due to historical developments, Singapore is at a stage where its people are unsure of how to carry out such protests and its police are unsure of how to handle such protests.
Like political plurality and the emergence of an alternative party with the ability to govern through the parliamentary process, knowledge of these will only come at a certain pace of time, albeit with the correct conditions.
Regards -
Those people in Myanmar have grave and compelling reasons to march.
In Singapore, what do you have to march about?
I mean real grouses.
Not vague notions like no democracy, no voice, no freedom of expression, minister's pay. -
Sign letter of protest outside Burmese embassy
Singaporeans are urged to go to the Burmese embassy to sign letters of protest. One of the letters is addressed to Ambassador U Win Myint and the other to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong (see below).
SDP Chairman Gandhi Ambalam and Secretary-General Chee Soon Juan will be stationed outside the Burmese Embassy at 15 St Martin's Drive, Singapore 257996 (opposite the Tanglin Shopping Mall) the whole of tomorrow, Sunday, 30 Sep 07 starting at 12 noon to receive petitioners.
The SDP leaders will also conduct a vigil at the venue tomorrow night in solidarity with the pro-democracy protesters.
We urge Singaporeans to come to the stand at St Martin's Drive and sign the letter to register your support for the Burmese people and to stand together with them at this time of need. We need action, not just words.
Letter 1
30 September 2007
U Win Myint
Ambassador
Embassy of the Union of Myanmar
Singapore
Dear Sir,
It is with disgust that we learn about the murderous assault on the Burmese people by your dictatorship in Rangoon. The wanton shooting and killing of peaceful demonstrators by the military junta has brought new meaning to the word depravity.
Instead of entering into a dialogue with the citizens to resolve the crisis in Burma through peaceful means, the military junta is unleashing violence to quell the People Power that has taken firm root in the country.
We, the undersigned, therefore and hereby call upon the SPDC to immediately
- cease all brutal acts against unarmed, peaceful protesters, including Buddhist monks who are at the forefront of the present largest democracy uprising in 20 years,
- release from detention the National League for Democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi and all other political prisoners and monks who have been detained,
- enter into a dialogue with NLD and other ethnic minority groups to diffuse the explosive situation in order to restore democracy,
- convene parliament and hand over power to the elected representatives in the 1990 elections.
We believe that a just and lasting solution to turmoil presently enveloping Burma can only be found by implementing the above demands. We deliver this message to you on behalf and in solidarity with the people of Burma who have suffered long enough.
Sincerely,
Letter 2
30 September 2007
Mr Lee Hsien Loong
Prime Minister
Singapore
Dear Sir,
It has been widely documented that the Singapore Government sells arms and military equipment to the military junta in Burma.
Chartered Industries and Allied Ordnance, companies controlled by Temasek Holdings are reported to be involved in such business. We, the undersigned, ask the Government to declare whether it has sold or transhipped arms and ammunition to Burma in the past and, more important, whether it is still doing so.
It is unimaginable that the weapons used by the soldiers to gun down peaceful protesters and monks in Burma are manufactured by Singapore. We do not want Singaporean hands stained by the blood of innocent and oppressed people of Burma.
In addition, the Government continues to stonewall about whether it is doing business linked with druglords in Burma. Apart from the immorality of the business, revenue from the trafficking of narcotics in Burma find their way into the pockets of the military rulers.
For the sake of doing the right thing we also demand to know whether GLCs are doing business in Burma. If they are, they should pull out immediately.
At this time of crisis, we should do everything we can to help the Burmese people instead of exploiting their misery for profit.
Sincerely,
This website will post updates of the letter-signing and when the letters will be handed over.
http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleburmaprotest2.html -
You obviously have a knack of being able to derive humour from your own ineptitude.Originally posted by citymax:haha,pls read properly before u want to comment on my msg.
i post do u want to see your fellow countrymen killing one another to achieve your so call stability.
So is it any more acceptable to live in a "stable" regime devoid of violence, even at the expense of ruthless oppression and exploitation? I guess boffins like you can't tell the two apart, can you? -
Who decides what are real grouses? You?Originally posted by mancha:Those people in Myanmar have grave and compelling reasons to march.
In Singapore, what do you have to march about?
I mean real grouses.
Not vague notions like no democracy, no voice, no freedom of expression, minister's pay. -
'lao gen' ? Which 'ju di' are you referring ?Originally posted by laogenjudi:Here we go again - Atobe never misses a chance to bark vehemently at our Government, for whatever reason best known to him. I have this strange feeling that LKY has had squeezed his balls and he is trying hard to get even.
No need to be apologetic about your critique towards my attitude, and you must be numb to the fact that LKY has squeezed not only my balls, but everyone else's balls - except perhaps yours which maybe too small to feel anything for the time being.
You seem to have some unusual fetish with my testicles, and also that of LKY and son.
Just to entertain him, hear ye.
Singapore has to be worse then Burma {Myanmar} - simply for the fact that as a First World Country, we still have educated persons behaving as goons to work for AND protect the political interests of the MIW government, behaving no better then the goons kept and maintained by the Third World Military Junta of Myanmar.
Only a goon will compare Singapore with Myanmar. There is more in life than politics and we are thankful to the many who work for AND protect the political interests of the MIW government......and the general well being of the people. Somebody in the political areana may have had squeezed your balls hard but the rest of us are free and easy. We would be happy to see you go and squeeze LKY or LHL but I don't see any reason why we should be helping you. [/color]
Why will you believe that I will need anyone's help to squeeze anyone else's testes, or is it simply a reflection of your psychological hang-up with testes that you should seek some professional help ?
Anyone - who is not a goon - will see that Singapore's Laws are no different from the laws in Myanmar in most aspect of Internal Security in suppressing internal civilian unrest - as both had inherited such Internal Security Laws from the British Colonial Rullers.
Anyone - who is not a goon - will see the similar political environment of Myanmar and Singapore, in which a singular group of self-indulgent elitist will see themselves as supreme beings to grip the political future of the respective countries.
You are a typical Singapore educated ''goondu'', who will completely surrender the political future of Singapore into the hands of others and no longer bother yourself as long as someone else - whether goons or goondoos - will be doing all the dirty work for you.
Which side of the wall are you standing to observe the happy people ?
These goons will not have any conscience or moral values and are blind to the Confucian values towards country and family, but will support an wretched rule simply to preserve themselves.
Correction - preserve themselves and the majority of common folks who have no grudges with the ruling party. Look at the people - are they not happy? Ask them whether they want to live in Singapore or Myanmar. As for the minority who have had their balls squeezed, good luck to them - try HEAVEN, it may be a better place to live in than Singapore.
Are you standing with the walled people, or those who have built the walls around the people and gloating at their ability to build that wall of deceit - as they go about rewarding themselves for their ability ?
Your inexperience can easily be overlooked if you do not know that each circumstance will have its own differing intensity and types of persecution.
In Myanmar, material and political impoverishment has awaken the Myanmese and given them political courage to express the political abuses that allowed material gains to be enjoyed only by the ruling elite.
In Singapore, the MIW has effectively filled the Singaporean stomach, dull the brains to the political abuses and disenfranchisement of the political rights of Singaporean to the future stability of Singapore.
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What level of education have your received to associate IRAQ as a 'first world democratic country' that will 'resort to ''torment'' to get information they want' ?
The goons in a First World Singapore are no different from the goons working in Third World Myanmar - despite the education standards - they have no respect for human or institutional dignity, and will raid one's home or institutions in the middle of the night, and torment their targetted individuals simply to get the confession that they wish to hear.
Again, only a goon will compare Singapore with Myanmar. We will only raid the home of those who are trying to cause instability and insecurity to the majority of peace-loving people. And don't harp on age old story. Are you telling us no first world democratic country resort to "torment" to get the information they want. Ask Iraq. Some bastards simply need to be squeezed for the safety of the majority.Singapore status as a First World Country is just a delusion to serve the political vanity of the POWER OF ONE, for the purpose of increasing public status on the Global Stage.
From the shallowness of your reply, you hope to be called 'Ah Lao' ?
If serving the political vanity of the POWER OF ONE eventually leads to the peace, progress and prosperity of the entire population; so be it. If we nurture that ONE to be powerful and mighty who in turn gives us and our children a good life, why not? There are always people who are unhappy with the system, any system. They are waiting for chaos and riots. Who kicked and shot the protesters in Myanmar? Could be one of those who were squeezed by the Juntas. He cannot kick the Juntas so he can only kick a big fuss and probably kick the poor chap next to him. It is only human, or is it ?
Call me Ah Lao
Not by a long shot, as you have a lot more to learn before you can even hope to be recognised with this status. Even if you were to push your age by a few more years with growing a long goatee, it is best that you keep the thoughts to yourself so as not to embarass yourself.
Chaos and instability will surely befall on any country when there are no clear and transparent political process or stable political institutions that will not be dependent on any one political party.
Can the success of Singapore be continuously assured in the hands of a selected few ?
The Communist Party of Soviet Russia believe themselves to be infallible for the better part of over 60 years of its history, and brought Soviet Russia to a crashing halt, but was able to recover itself only through political openess.
Communist China is also taking a new route of political openess, as much as it is slower than Russia in doing so - yet its own form of political openess has provided its Citizens with progressive avenues of political and cultural expressions that will assure a vibrant future for China.
Communist Vietnam continued closed political mentality has resulted in the country being mired in corruption in its political and economic process even as the country provides material progress for its people. This environment will not last for long as its people become open to the global environment.
Singapore system - in the monopolistic grip of a single political party that create political institutions that depends entirely on the singular non-transparent guidance and input - will surely result in the corrupting of the political process as had happened in all One Party dominated countries.
History has never shown any country that is subjected to ONE Party dominance to last for too long, and Singapore is no different when LKY time on earth expire.
As long as LKY do not leave behind a political system and political institutions that are not dependent on the monopolistic grip of any one political party, or one group of politicians, or one strong political personality - can Singapore continue with its present level of stable progress ?
As matters stand, the rot is beginning to set in with the incessant greed for financial gains resulting in more money driven policies being created that continue to squeeze Singaporean pockets - {not their testes.... yet}.
Singaporeans may reach the same psychological breaking point as the Myanmese has reached in their set of circumstances.
Then again, how much does an immature and self-indulgent educated 'goondu' know about the real world affairs when cloistered in the safe environment created by grand-parents and parents ?
'lao gen' ????
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but handsome Georgie said the world should decry "brutal suppression of demonstrators" in myanmar leh.Originally posted by unclebutcher:i tot is "singapore is worse than burma?"
So, does he mean singapore would not support SUPPRESSION of DEMONSTRATORS?
I dunno leh. I stewpid stewpid one leh. all singaporeans smart smart one leh.
The Majority make it happen. Singapore where got suppress? -
Let your vote do all the protest!
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Originally posted by reddressman:
On the evening news, Channelnews Asia also had a snippet showing George Yeo commenting that the Myanmese has a legitimate right to protest their grieviances with the Myanmar Authorities.
but handsome Georgie said the world should decry "brutal suppression of demonstrators" in myanmar leh.
So, does he mean singapore would not support SUPPRESSION of DEMONSTRATORS?
I dunno leh. I stewpid stewpid one leh. all singaporeans smart smart one leh.
The Majority make it happen. Singapore where got suppress?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Singaporeans are said to be smart and educated and thinking soldiers.
On the evening news, Channelnews Asia also had a snippet showing George Yeo commenting that the [b]Myanmese has a legitimate right to protest their grieviances with the Myanmar Authorities.
Was that a flash in the pan ?
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sounds got bright future.
on a separate news...
it was reported that singapore has enlisted the help of many Foreigners to help provide skills to MNCs as they cannot find talents. But singaproeans very capable what? what does this need for so many FTs say about Singapore talents? They can think? -
The sad truth is this: it is all about personal and selfish gain, agenda and grouses:
it is ME, MY, MINE, MONEY ....
who cares about MORAL and MYANMAR?
H mmmmmmmmm ...... -
i would like to ask u a ques, do u want a better world?Originally posted by walesa:You obviously have a knack of being able to derive humour from your own ineptitude.
So is it any more acceptable to live in a "stable" regime devoid of violence, even at the expense of ruthless oppression and exploitation? I guess boffins like you can't tell the two apart, can you? -
Is a world rampant with ruthless exploitation with stability really better?Originally posted by citymax:i would like to ask u a ques, do u want a better world? -
Originally posted by phantom010436:
You said it beautifully!! Cant uinderstand why people suddenly stop protesting about once every 4 years
[b]Let your vote do all the protest![/b] -
depends on which side of the fence you are on.Originally posted by walesa:Is a world rampant with ruthless exploitation with stability really better?
we won't blame you if you become president and get 3 million annually.
but make sure you don't forget us.
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What is this connection about Burma's repression on their people n visit to old folks?Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Hi, qlqq9, there is no need to tell people that you are not doing any charity work. All you do here is to seek attention for your political agenda. Your refusal to come with me to visit the old folks and cheer them up with your lunatic tunes are ACTIONS that speak lounder than your VIBES.
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He just want to show off to the whole world that he is doing charity. BO liao.Originally posted by will4:What is this connection about Burma's repression on their people n visit to old folks? -
I don't see a shred of evidence of plurality here.Originally posted by Melvin Tan:Hi,
I beg to differ. Due to historical developments, Singapore is at a stage where its people are unsure of how to carry out such protests and its police are unsure of how to handle such protests.
Like political plurality and the emergence of an alternative party with the ability to govern through the parliamentary process, knowledge of these will only come at a certain pace of time, albeit with the correct conditions.
Regards