Thats bull. If you compare to the monks, he is sill alive and he has not sustained any injuries. If you want to compare to Aung San Suu Kyi, she was voted in, he is not. Further, she is placed on house arrest while he in-out-in-out as and when he pleases to violate the law. He compares himself to Gandhi, Mandela, Aung, etc. He is clearly not.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I think it was appropriate for him to be there as he has similarly suffered but at the hands of a different regime.
People moan when opposition doesn't assert themselves... people complain when opposition assert themselves.Originally posted by kramnave:Yah true. Perhaps i'm biased against them. I see Chee Soon Juan using this opportunity to further his own cause, nothing more. Let the Burmese take care of their own problems with the embassy. Chee doesn't need to look like the "leader" or portray himself to be.
Most people would be. When you see the papers, when you watch news, when you go to the forums, most will feel the same. He hasn't died, his head wasn't cracked, he is not bloodied....we read why the Burmese demonstrate. We understand but we never have been in their shoes and neither has he.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:He, of all people would be able to empathize best, not just empathize but sympathize with the Burmese people suffering at the hands of a brutal regime.
Opposition ? look at WP. It clear that the only thing SDP wants is PAP's downfall and the right to dissent, they want demonstrations etc. They should become activists, not politicians. There is nothing else they want or can offer.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:People moan when opposition doesn't assert themselves... people complain when opposition assert themselves.
Mmmh but given our government's close ties with Myanmar junta, I wouldn't be surprise that our government wishes to avoid giving any explanation on their ''links''... hence the need to prevent a public outcry.
He went to jail before .. counted?Originally posted by kramnave:Thats bull. If you compare to the monks, he is sill alive and he has not sustained any injuries. If you want to compare to Aung San Suu Kyi, she was voted in, he is not. Further, she is placed on house arrest while he in-out-in-out as and when he pleases to violate the law. He compares himself to Gandhi, Mandela, Aung, etc. He is clearly not.
Then be a respectable politician rather than be a lout. What is he rather than an activist ? You don't fight for your lonely cause without the citizen's vote. Nothing fruitfull will happen in Sg. No need to ride on the Burmese's misery and cause extra tension at the embassy by being a pest there. Let them do their own things.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:But they fight for same cause -- democracy.
Chee Soon Juan sees Singapore as a one-party state with a facade of democracy.
come on .. if the opposition contains people like him .. you think they ever get voted in?Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:According to Chee Soon Juan, elections are just a charade in Singapore.
For show only.
There is no way that opposition can get into power in Singapore via elections, according to Dr Chee.
Be it activist, opposition, anything.. I just hope that someone makes a noise. PAP is getting to smug.Originally posted by kramnave:Opposition ? look at WP. It clear that the only thing SDP wants is PAP's downfall and the right to dissent, they want demonstrations etc. They should become activists, not politicians. There is nothing else they want or can offer.
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Thats what i'm saying. Its a burmese problem. They have a serious issue but some quarters in Singapore are taking the opp and focusing on the point that Singapore has a problem, with Chee Soon Juan in the frontline, making a nuisance out of himself while riding on the misery of the Burmese.
[b]When a permit is required for compassion - disgusting
http://lalaland9.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/when-a-permit-is-required-for-compassion-disgusting/
Other countries all can demonstrate, all can protest.
Only Singapore with bullshit laws cannot protest.
And they still dare to call this the city of possibilities, don't make me laugh![/b]
Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:You let people protest things might get ugly. When feelings are high, tensions are high, people tend to do stupid things. Like during a soccer match, one spark could lead to a big fight between the supporters.
[b]When a permit is required for compassion - disgusting
http://lalaland9.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/when-a-permit-is-required-for-compassion-disgusting/
Other countries all can demonstrate, all can protest.
Only Singapore with bullshit laws cannot protest.
And they still dare to call this the city of possibilities, don't make me laugh![/b]
You let people protest things might get ugly.It's the people's right in a democracy.
Precisely! You need them to be smug. When they are smug, they think the citizens are supporting them. You put them on "high alert" they will start dishing out carrots .. and citizens will think twice before voting for the opposition.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Be it activist, opposition, anything.. I just hope that someone makes a noise. PAP is getting to smug.![]()
PAP is associated with the Myanmar Junta... mmh Birds of a feather flock together?
if democracy is a means to an end .. then let's focus on that end.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:It's the people's right in a democracy.