Myanmar and the Sheep
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Of all the information that I have sifted through, only your 3rd last para made the most sense. Well, of course bits and pieces here and there too.Originally posted by Gazelle:Just because the global media are now focusing on Myanmar, the latter has now become another platform for the sheep in this forum to use some white manÂ’s opinion to criticize our government as if they (the whites) are naturally smarter than their own ancestor of different skin colors, and they have now become the most caring community in Singapore. OR should I say NATO community in Singapore??
The problem that the Burmese are facing today is nothing new, those who have traveled to Yangon or Mandalay for business or holiday would have already know that people there are extremely poor and they are deprived of many things in life for many many years. And suppose if Singapore/Asean government or companies didnt provide "aid" or investment to Myanmar, the Burmese will still be living in a world without internet, mobile phone, computers etc and communication with the outside world would be cut off.
After reading so much comments from the wannabe politicians (aka arm chair critics) in this forum, none of these people have actually highlighted the importance of Myanmar to Singapore and the ASEAN region and all they can think about is what the white people are saying about us and speculating that Singapore government is supporting Junta against their own people.
If you havenÂ’t already know, Myanmar is the only ASEAN country that links SE-Asia to the India continent and they are geographically connect to India, Bangladesh, China, Laos and Thailand. If Singapore or ASEAN would to isolate Myanmar like North Korea, this will create a lot of instability in the region and it will become a huge trade barrier bAsean and India continent.
Mr. Texas BUSH, Puppet Blair and PM Coward have already made huge mistake in their approach in dealing with Arabs in the Middle East, do you have reasons to believe that white people are more capable than Asians to deal with Asians? Plus have the sheep ever ask themselves how much investment these white countries have in Iraq and Iran prior to the WAR?
To all those white di.ck suckers out there, please stop disgracing Singaporeans!!
Sentences like the last one are one of the major reasons why it is difficult for you to hold a meaningful debate.
In my opinion, the whites, namely the US, European countries and Australia have always been champions of democracy, therefore the extremely negative stance towards the junta's repression.
With regard to your second para, you sound almost as if Singapore is doing charity work. Hard to fathom considering Singapore Inc's profit oriented inclination. Singapore simply jumped on the bandwagon as ASEAN's leader. Why leave the lion's share of the military business pie to Russia, China and Israel?
Back to your third para, I agree with your claim on political instability should Myanmar be isolated. However, I can't say the same for the country being a vital link between east and west.
How much of the trade between ASEAN and India is by land through Myanmar? Surely with the advent of air and sea travel, the impact of adverse land trade conditions would be very much mitigated.
Of course, one cannot totally fault the Singapore govt for taking an indecisive stance. After all, it does not want to offend China. Being business oriented, the arms sales business is difficult to forsake too. However, being a staunch ally of the US and other major white countries, it has to make a tough stance towards the junta too.
If many here are suckers of wh.te dic.ks as you claim, then you surely must be the equivalent with regards to Kwan Yew's d.ick or Hsien Loong's co.ck too. -
No one individual is infallible.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:hahaha, I always have to laugh at this antic Atobe. Falling into my pile of crap had made him a very angry man. I feel sorry for all his rantings. That man needs some help. While he had been quite diligent in digging pile of materials including foreign ones, pictures, quotations, speeches, history books, newspaper clippings, etc., his rantings can be unintelligent and incoherent, with many unconnected linkages here and there. It is a pity we do not know exactly what irks him but there seemed to be a lot of underlying hatred or unspoken dissatisfactions that we do not really know. I can feel his sufferings but I am not sure whether my pile of crap is any help!
If you can dismiss his posts as that stemming from anger, then you certainly must have misinterpreted a lot of facts quoted from him too.
You seem to link constructive criticism with anger, rantings....... a big fallacy in itself. When this happens, genuine contributions are often disregarded as a fault of the contributor, rather than the inept absorption of the receiver. -
I did say he was diligent but constructive ....? There is something more (underlying) that we are obviously not getting!Originally posted by Rock^Star:No one individual is infallible.
If you can dismiss his posts as that stemming from anger, then you certainly must have misinterpreted a lot of facts quoted from him too.
You seem to link constructive criticism with anger, rantings....... a big fallacy in itself. When this happens, genuine contributions are often disregarded as a fault of the contributor, rather than the inept absorption of the receiver. -
er, what are you people talking about?
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Definetely not about Myanmar and the Sheep.Originally posted by gigabyte14:er, what are you people talking about? -
This statement is so true. Firstly, the government should never be allowed to keep the property sector buoyantly hot. That time, they built a shopping centre at my estate and the properties surrounding it became hot. They also built the MRT and the property prices around these MRT stations became hot. They should not be allowed to do that and this is proof that they are corrupt and only have their private interests at heart.Originally posted by Atobe:
The majority of Singaporeans will be poor by the time they reached retirement age, as the bulk of their retirement funds will be swallowed up in the over priced properties that the Singapore Autocrats have created with its 'property casino environment', which they have private interest in to keep the property sector buoyantly hot.
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Secondly, even though the casinos will supposedly help to pump some few billion dollars into the economy and bring more jobs and probably help increase the general income with its operation, it is still bad because people will be poorer with the increased property prices. And even though a person who owns a property of great value, say a few hundred thousand dollars, he or she is still considered poor. But then, these are just my opinions. -
Atobe, I'm your biggest fan. Whatever you happen to say, makes so much sense. I don't know how you manage to find out, but it's true that the wide array of food at Myanmar's open air markets are priced to commensurate with their wages. Who cares about quality and hygiene anway? I'm sure they also have Sushi Tei that commensurates with their wages. Why don't you and I move over to Myanmar? We will live like kings over there. They may even have Equinox that commensurates with their wages.Originally posted by Atobe:
The Burmese enjoy having a wide array of food at their open air markets that are available at prices that are commensurate to their wages, and the Military Junta - like the Singapore Autocrats - have ensured that the stomachs are filled while the minds are dulled.
Again, another incredibly profound statement from you. The military are smart aren't they, overfeeding the darned burmese and making their minds like zombies? Truly genius, that junta -
If Singaporean are as flawed as you, there is nothing to be positive aboutOriginally posted by Atobe:The least controversial and most positive statement from the Resident Mushroom for 2007.
Perhaps you can be similarly generous with your views to your own country-men, and will extend the same positive views for the Singapore Xperience ?
Or is this a flash in the pan from some flawed diamond cut ?
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Is this pathetic statement supposed to be of some impact ?Originally posted by oxford mushroom: 13 October 2007 - 02.37 PM
Quote : Post by Atobe: 7 October 2007 - 05.34 PMQuote : Original post by oxford mushroom: 7 October 2007 - 07.53 AM
The Myanmar issue cannot be resolved without participation of the military. Such vigorous show of opposition and public protests against the military junta only serves to put the military on the defensive and will result in greater restriction of civil liberties and human rights. George Yeo is right that we understand the political situation there far better than ranting western liberals who are in no mood themselves to send their soldiers into another military conflict in Myanmar. Regime change has not worked...just look at Iraq. It is not in our own political or economic interests to have instability in Myanmar, and economic sanctions for the past decades have not worked an iota.
The way forward is for greater diplomatic dialogue and to persuade the Myanmese military that their interests would be better served by less oppressive rule.
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The least controversial and most positive statement from the Resident Mushroom for 2007.
Perhaps you can be similarly generous with your views to your own country-men, and will extend the same positive views for the Singapore Xperience ?
Or is this a flash in the pan from some flawed diamond cut ?
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If Singaporean are as flawed as you, there is nothing to be positive about
You could at least be more creative in attempting to turn the table around after nearly 6 days had lapsed that would have given you more then sufficient time to be less lame with just a self-opinionated viewpoint. -
This is another true statement from the great Atobe. The Singaporeans today are definitely struggling as compared to those days in the 1950s. Did those families in the 1950s struggle at all? Of course not. Are people today struggling to even raise a 2 child family? Of course we are. Anyone who asks me for proof is a downright donkey.Originally posted by Atobe:
Burma - today - has living conditions similar to Singapore in the 1950s, with the majority of the Burmese being unaware of what life in Singapore is like today. Singaporeans, who have lived through the experience of the 1950s, will know that Singaporeans were not complaining of their conditions then, and even had more then enough to look after a huge family - compared to Singaporeans today struggling to keep a 2-child family despite the huge wage difference from the 1950s.
Of course, nevermind that today we no longer live in kampongs and have swimming pools in every estate, nevermind that we have an efficient public transport system, nevermind that we have drinking water straight from the tap and nevermind that we have cars, handphones, computers and broadband connections. Who cares about those things anyway? The government should be held responsible for bringing us down to our pathetic state that we are in today. I'm with you all the way, Atobe -
If you want to emulate your idolised personality in his manner of wit and brilliance in countering criticism with backhanded sarcasm, at least do it with more practised finesse and some degree of honesty.Originally posted by ah_lau2:
Quote:Originally posted by Atobe:
The majority of Singaporeans will be poor by the time they reached retirement age, as the bulk of their retirement funds will be swallowed up in the over priced properties that the Singapore Autocrats have created with its 'property casino environment', which they have private interest in to keep the property sector buoyantly hot.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This statement is so true. Firstly, the government should never be allowed to keep the property sector buoyantly hot. That time, they built a shopping centre at my estate and the properties surrounding it became hot. They also built the MRT and the property prices around these MRT stations became hot. They should not be allowed to do that and this is proof that they are corrupt and only have their private interests at heart.
Secondly, even though the casinos will supposedly help to pump some few billion dollars into the economy and bring more jobs and probably help increase the general income with its operation, it is still bad because people will be poorer with the increased property prices. And even though a person who owns a property of great value, say a few hundred thousand dollars, he or she is still considered poor. But then, these are just my opinions.
LKY has seldom attack anyone by quoting others ''out-of-context'' - as he has always insist in being quoted accurately if anyone intend to criticize him.
The least you could have done - to protect your own integrity - was to quote my post with some degree of accuracy as I had posted on 10 October 2007 - 06.09 PM Page 2 of this Thread.
Are you getting senile and out of practise even before you reach your time ?
What is the hurry of being a real [b]ah_lau before you even reach puberty ? -
Originally posted by Atobe:
Of course I can, but the post made on the 10th October 2007 6.09pm was indeed one made by me quoting your post on the 6th October 2007 10.24am Page 1 of this thread. That is not to imply that you are old and senile or anything, for you are the great Atobe.
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If you want to emulate your idolised personality in his manner of wit and brilliance in countering criticism with backhanded sarcasm, at least do it with more practised finesse and some degree of honesty.
LKY has seldom attack anyone by quoting others ''out-of-context'' - as he has always insist in being quoted accurately if anyone intend to criticize him.
The least you could have done - to protect your own integrity - was to quote my post with some degree of accuracy as I had posted on [b]10 October 2007 - 06.09 PM Page 2 of this Thread.
Are you getting senile and out of practise even before you reach your time ?
What is the hurry of being a real [b]ah_lau before you even reach puberty ?
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Now that we have hind-sight of history, can we trust another 'Brutus', who will declare unsolicited declaration of love and admiration - as Brutus has publicly declared towards Caesar ?Originally posted by ah_lau2: 12 October 2007 - 11.23 AM
Quote: Original post by Atobe:
The Burmese enjoy having a wide array of food at their open air markets that are available at prices that are commensurate to their wages, and the Military Junta - like the Singapore Autocrats - have ensured that the stomachs are filled while the minds are dulled.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Atobe, I'm your biggest fan. Whatever you happen to say, makes so much sense. I don't know how you manage to find out, but it's true that the wide array of food at Myanmar's open air markets are priced to commensurate with their wages. Who cares about quality and hygiene anway? I'm sure they also have Sushi Tei that commensurates with their wages. Why don't you and I move over to Myanmar? We will live like kings over there. They may even have Equinox that commensurates with their wages.
Again, another incredibly profound statement from you. The military are smart aren't they, overfeeding the darned burmese and making their minds like zombies? Truly genius, that junta
Today, in Singapore there are more then enough 'Brutus' that fill the ranks of the MIW - that will surely make Marcus Junius Brutus turn in his grave as his act was at least of a higher principle - compared to the present day Brutus that will sell their political conscience and suppress Singaporeans Political Rights for the sake of material gains.
What else does a pre-puberty ah_lao know besides the materialistic gains that Singapore is supposed to enjoy, when all that has been achieved has been paid for by your parents and grand-parents ?
What do you know about life in Singapore that is supposed to be materially rich, when Singaporeans have to struggle continuously till 75 years - simply to be able to retire with some hope of decency ?
All that you know seem to center around modern day conveniences, and familiarity of clinically clean environment, how do you think that more then three generations - {including LKY's generation, their fathers and grand-fathers} - have managed to live through those early periods of Singapore, with so much dignity and wealth ?
Even LKY himself lived through the 1950s and is none the worse today.
Can the same be said of Singaporeans today, living in a soft environment that has been purposefully created, in which all that are needed for Singaporeans to live is locked into a service system that is controlled by the MIW Government ?
Despite our material gains, even the MIW Government has acknowledged that there exist a segment of Singaporeans locked in poverty - {there remains a stubborn refusal to be exact and transparent of the actual numbers in the different income groups that are struggling}.
You will sound more credible as a pre-puberty Singaporean instead of going by the chosen ah_lao. -
Dear Atobe, you are so right again. I tried to find the figures for the people who are locked in poverty and after 5 minutes of googling, all I can find is this statistical analysis of household income from the government for the year of 2006.Originally posted by Atobe:[b]
Despite our material gains, even the MIW Government has acknowledged that there exist a segment of Singaporeans locked in poverty - {there remains a stubborn refusal to be exact and transparent of the actual numbers in the different income groups that are struggling}.
You will sound more credible as a pre-puberty Singaporean instead of going by the chosen ah_lao.
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/pubn/papers/people/op-s12.pdf
Which is obviously fake. How can our government come up with anything genuine and useful? Again, you are spot on Atobe. In any case, if at any time you feel that you may have been misinterpreted, mis-quoted or quoted out of context, please feel free to explain yourself or correct me. For your words are the most profound.
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Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:
The 'pile of crap' will never fail to clamour for scores even if none exist to be claimed.
hahaha, I always have to laugh at this antic Atobe. Falling into my pile of crap had made him a very angry man. I feel sorry for all his rantings. That man needs some help. While he had been quite diligent in digging pile of materials including foreign ones, pictures, quotations, speeches, history books, newspaper clippings, etc., his rantings can be unintelligent and incoherent, with many unconnected linkages here and there. It is a pity we do not know exactly what irks him but there seemed to be a lot of underlying hatred or unspoken dissatisfactions that we do not really know. I can feel his sufferings but I am not sure whether my pile of crap is any help!
Can a 'pile of crap' - trying hard to be TheGoodEarth - be capable of provoking anyone's anger ?
If at all, the self-conceit in believing your own ''crap can be provocative'' will already reveal your effort to shore up your hopeless position, as you have not even attempt to address issues raised in my post, but will prefer to work on the psycholoical peripherals of my emotions and psyche.
From all your post todate, how much solid stuff have you been able to throw up to counter any arguments that have shown you up as the crap that you are; and what have you even shown to even to solidify your position ?
All your replies todate have been laced with suggestions of my negative vibes, my anger, my sufferings, my underlying hatred, my unspoken dissatisfactions, my unintelligent and incoherent rantings with unconnected linkages here and there - where are your solid proof to all that you have so expertly suggested ?
Would you like to have a personal PM conference with your ardent fan - 'the Crap Sniffer' to co-ordinate your placing of your 'pile of crap' ?
Perhaps you should do something to co-ordinate with ah_lao2 -who seems to be an ardent admirer and fan of my postings ? He has made unsolicited declaration of his admiration to all my posts - which will have contradicted all the suggestions that you have indicated.
Someone must be right, and the other wrong.
Either he is a pre-puberty 'ah_lao' unable to be critically discerning as you seem to be capable of as a 'pile of crap'; or it simply prove that you are no better than a pre-puberty 'ah_lao in being able to produce crap. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
hahaha, your pile is getting higher and deeper. Do you have a PHD?
The 'pile of crap' will never fail to clamour for scores even if none exist to be claimed.
Can a 'pile of crap' - trying hard to be TheGoodEarth - be capable of provoking anyone's anger ?
If at all, the self-conceit in believing your own ''crap can be provocative'' will already reveal your effort to shore up your hopeless position, as you have not even attempt to address issues raised in my post, but will prefer to work on the psycholoical peripherals of my emotions and psyche.
From all your post todate, how much solid stuff have you been able to throw up to counter any arguments that have shown you up as the crap that you are; and what have you even shown to even to solidify your position ?
All your replies todate have been laced with suggestions of my negative vibes, my anger, my sufferings, my underlying hatred, my unspoken dissatisfactions, my unintelligent and incoherent rantings with unconnected linkages here and there - where are your solid proof to all that you have so expertly suggested ?
Would you like to have a personal PM conference with your ardent fan - [b]'the Crap Sniffer' to co-ordinate your placing of your 'pile of crap' ?
Perhaps you should do something to co-ordinate with ah_lao2 -who seems to be an ardent admirer and fan of my postings ? He has made unsolicited declaration of his admiration to all my posts - which will have contradicted all the suggestions that you have indicated.
Someone must be right, and the other wrong.
Either he is a pre-puberty 'ah_lao' unable to be critically discerning as you seem to be capable of as a 'pile of crap'; or it simply prove that you are no better than a pre-puberty 'ah_lao in being able to produce crap.
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Hmm..... I can sense the hatred, anger and of course the usual sanctimonious rantings! -
Dear Atobe, this is another passage from your classic post. It should be framed on everybody's wall. Of course, there are various kinds of riots, such as the race riots 38 years ago of 1969, soccer riots and riots from secret societies and gangsters. But isn't it obvious that the government only trains the police to use unreasonable force against people who stand up for their country, which means to say peaceful deomnstrations? Isn't it obvious? It is conclusive proof that the government is cruel and heartless.Originally posted by Atobe:
''Ignorance is bliss'' - and yet, the Burmese has the inspiration to fight for their political rights that has been usurped from them, as much as the few politically concious Singaporeans are also demanding for our political rights to be returned to us.
It was the recent fuel price increases in Myanmar that provided the spark that cause the Burmese to be more vocal, and it was the brutal and morally bankrupt military - which is conscientiously detached from the population - that used brutal and excessive force in suppressing the Burmese demands for change.
The Singapore Police Force are similarly trained in using deadly force as the last option; and despite more then 50 years of non-riots, the Singapore Government has seen fit to purchase crowd control water cannons fitted onto police trucks, as well as an array of riot control devices and soft weapons to be used against Singaporeans.
Suppressing those who will dare to stand-up and be counted for the sake of the country.
Also, not to mention the military. Isn't it obvious that the military is useless and just a complete scam to waste the country's money and sell military goods to other countries? I mean, when was the last time we had a war in our region? For goodness sake, it was 62 years ago in 1945. If it haven't happened for decades, it will never happen. Do you really think that Malaysia, Indonesia or any of our neighbours will bully, attack or conquer us? Please, has it happened before and if it has, when was the last time?
There are no doubts the government should just scrap the military and the riot police and stop wasting taxpayers' money. I think Atobe, you and I should start a political party. Surely, with our policies, more than 50% of the people will vote for us.
Your biggest fan -
Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:
As usual, true to the character, what else can we expect from a pile of crap that try so hard to be TheGoodEarth ?
hahaha, your pile is getting higher and deeper. Do you have a PHD?
Hmm..... I can sense the hatred, anger and of course the usual sanctimonious rantings!
For all your efforts at softening the truth that has been exposed in you, your false bravado with a weak 'hahaha' - with no further rebuttals - clearly show up the hollowness in the pile of crap.
If all you can sense is hatred, anger, and of course rantings - it surely must be your vain attempt to retain a straight face.
Are the words of ''hatred, anger'' a reflection of your own emotions that is seething in you, for the truth that has been exposed in my analysis of your vain efforts at being TheGoodEarth ?
Try harder if you think your pseudo-psycho-suggestive efforts will work in your amateurish psycho-analysing - it is a 'Black Art' that is practised by those MIW, who believe that when a lie publicly said often enough - by people with ''some degree of credible public profile'' - 'the Lie' can soon become 'the Truth'.
The problem is are you as ''credible with a public profile'' - when you are but a pile of crap pretending to be TheGoodEarth ?
Can you even hope to match those MIW who have been exposed to be expert at this 'Black Art' - as much as they fear the same is practised by others on them ?
If you want to start a campaign with this 'Black Art' of psycho-suggestive labelling, you should firstly try harder with your postings and gain credibility with sound arguments that substantiate your own position; then perhaps with a credible base your public exercise in the 'Black Art' will work.
Otherwise, as seen from your efforts todate, the label of you being a 'pile of crap' surely will fit nicely with your nick being 'TheGoodEarth'. -
Clearly, the pre-puberty immature vanity in the self-proclaimed ah_lao has again revealed itself in this amateurish and shallow efforts with sarcasm in confusing two issues together.Originally posted by ah_lau2:
Quote: Original post by Atobe:
''Ignorance is bliss'' - and yet, the Burmese has the inspiration to fight for their political rights that has been usurped from them, as much as the few politically concious Singaporeans are also demanding for our political rights to be returned to us.
It was the recent fuel price increases in Myanmar that provided the spark that cause the Burmese to be more vocal, and it was the brutal and morally bankrupt military - which is conscientiously detached from the population - that used brutal and excessive force in suppressing the Burmese demands for change.
The Singapore Police Force are similarly trained in using deadly force as the last option; and despite more then 50 years of non-riots, the Singapore Government has seen fit to purchase crowd control water cannons fitted onto police trucks, as well as an array of riot control devices and soft weapons to be used against Singaporeans.
Suppressing those who will dare to stand-up and be counted for the sake of the country.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Atobe, this is another passage from your classic post. It should be framed on everybody's wall. Of course, there are various kinds of riots, such as the race riots 38 years ago of 1969, soccer riots and riots from secret societies and gangsters. But isn't it obvious that the government only trains the police to use unreasonable force against people who stand up for their country, which means to say peaceful deomnstrations? Isn't it obvious? It is conclusive proof that the government is cruel and heartless.
Also, not to mention the military. Isn't it obvious that the military is useless and just a complete scam to waste the country's money and sell military goods to other countries? I mean, when was the last time we had a war in our region? For goodness sake, it was 62 years ago in 1945. If it haven't happened for decades, it will never happen. Do you really think that Malaysia, Indonesia or any of our neighbours will bully, attack or conquer us? Please, has it happened before and if it has, when was the last time?
There are no doubts the government should just scrap the military and the riot police and stop wasting taxpayers' money. I think Atobe, you and I should start a political party. Surely, with our policies, more than 50% of the people will vote for us.
Your biggest fan.
Are you such an ardent fan of the MIW that you will even imitate their style in such an amateurish way to regain some credible ground in this Speaker's Corner on their behalf ?
From this post alone, it will reveal that perhaps 44 years ago - in 1963 - your parents have not even met to mesh their DNA together to create this present pre-puberty ah_lao that do not even know that Indonesia has attacked Singapore - in a Konfrontasi organised by President Sukarno. We could forgive your pre-puberty ignorance that Malaysian political leadership had attempted to send two Battalion of Royal Malay Regiments to arrest the entire Singapore State Cabinet, and failing to do so through the intervention of UK PM Harold Wilson, Singapore was kicked out of the merger with Malaysia.
Have you confused the urgency to prepare ourselves with an NS SAF to fend off external attacks, with the useless need to prepare our Police Force to suppress decent Citizens to regain their Constitutional Rights - which have seen us being shackled by the repeated bastardising of the Singapore Constitution through countless legislative amendments that will perpetuate the MIW to be in political office ?
Have you confused the Decent Citizens with the gangsters and secret societies ?
Race riots 38 years ago - yes, did you find out the cause behind the riots ?
Soccer riots ?
Riots from secret societies and gangsters ?
We can forgive your pre-puberty imagination and vain effort to emulate the MIW, even as much as you behave like 'Brutus' in your declared admiration as my 'ardent fan' - when I do not even have the slightest inclination to be 'Caesar'.
If Singapore can still be threatened by another Racial Riot after 38 years, surely something is amiss in all the racial harmony and integration policies that this MIW Government has implemented since 1969 ?
If Singapore can still be threatened by Secret Societies and Gangsters - after 38 years - surely, the MIW Government has been locking up the wrong characters with the Internal Security Act and the Criminal Detention Legislation that empower the Home Minister to detain without trial anyone that threaten the security of Singapore ?
With your pre-puberty vanity and such a hurried ambition to be an ah_lao without even brushing up on history that is available with a click on Google, you are certainly audacious to even wish to set up a political party.
Surely, you must be a uselss wannabe agent for the MIW ? -
5 miutes of googling - is that all ?Originally posted by ah_lau2:
Quote: Originally posted by Atobe:
Despite our material gains, even the MIW Government has acknowledged that there exist a segment of Singaporeans locked in poverty - {there remains a stubborn refusal to be exact and transparent of the actual numbers in the different income groups that are struggling}.
You will sound more credible as a pre-puberty Singaporean instead of going by the chosen ah_lao.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Atobe, you are so right again. I tried to find the figures for the people who are locked in poverty and after 5 minutes of googling, all I can find is this statistical analysis of household income from the government for the year of 2006.
http://www.singstat.gov.sg/pubn/papers/people/op-s12.pdf
Which is obviously fake. How can our government come up with anything genuine and useful? Again, you are spot on Atobe. In any case, if at any time you feel that you may have been misinterpreted, mis-quoted or quoted out of context, please feel free to explain yourself or correct me. For your words are the most profound.
Your biggest fan
If you are an ardent fan of mine, you should be more careful and diligent in spending more then 5 minutes to google for more comprehensive information before you accept anything as fact.
If you are an ardent fan of mine , you should also not depend entirely on googling for information - which is only a convenient tool to get instantaneous clarification - but should also read as widely as possible and in any available time away from the monitor, and retain the essential bits in your memory.
Will you accept all that the Government Statistic Department print on its face value, with only 5 minutes of googling ?
Not too long ago, even two NTU Associate-Professors had disputed the data that the Department of Statistics had given; and unfortunately, under political pressure - they had to withdraw their desent, or lose their well paid positions at NTU.
The readership in this Speaker's Corner can forgive your pre-puberty rush to be an ah_lao with this amateurish effort at substantiating your response - at least, you have made some efforts compared to the 'pile of crap'.
If you are genuinely an ah_lao, we can also forgive your 'Second Childhood' inability to discern facts from 'window dressing' efforts.
Data can be manipulated to fit any purpose.
With the powers available to the POWER OF ONE, even the shape of Singapore has been changed, do you think nothing can be done to numbers ? -
I think for your age, you are extremely mature. You are also very smart. No wonder most people lose their arguments to you.Originally posted by Atobe:[b]
Clearly, the pre-puberty immature vanity in the self-proclaimed ah_lao has again revealed itself in this amateurish and shallow efforts with sarcasm in confusing two issues together.
Are you such an ardent fan of the MIW that you will even imitate their style in such an amateurish way to regain some credible ground in this Speaker's Corner on their behalf ?
From this post alone, it will reveal that perhaps 44 years ago - in 1963 - your parents have not even met to mesh their DNA together to create this present pre-puberty ah_lao that do not even know that Indonesia has attacked Singapore - in a Konfrontasi organised by President Sukarno. We could forgive your pre-puberty ignorance that Malaysian political leadership had attempted to send two Battalion of Royal Malay Regiments to arrest the entire Singapore State Cabinet, and failing to do so through the intervention of UK PM Harold Wilson, Singapore was kicked out of the merger with Malaysia.
Have you confused the urgency to prepare ourselves with an NS SAF to fend off external attacks, with the useless need to prepare our Police Force to suppress decent Citizens to regain their Constitutional Rights - which have seen us being shackled by the repeated bastardising of the Singapore Constitution through countless legislative amendments that will perpetuate the MIW to be in political office ?
Have you confused the Decent Citizens with the gangsters and secret societies ?
Race riots 38 years ago - yes, did you find out the cause behind the riots ?
Soccer riots ?
Riots from secret societies and gangsters ?
We can forgive your pre-puberty imagination and vain effort to emulate the MIW, even as much as you behave like 'Brutus' in your declared admiration as my 'ardent fan' - when I do not even have the slightest inclination to be 'Caesar'.
If Singapore can still be threatened by another Racial Riot after 38 years, surely something is amiss in all the racial harmony and integration policies that this MIW Government has implemented since 1969 ?
If Singapore can still be threatened by Secret Societies and Gangsters - after 38 years - surely, the MIW Government has been locking up the wrong characters with the Internal Security Act and the Criminal Detention Legislation that empower the Home Minister to detain without trial anyone that threaten the security of Singapore ?
With your pre-puberty vanity and such a hurried ambition to be an ah_lao without even brushing up on history that is available with a click on Google, you are certainly audacious to even wish to set up a political party.
Surely, you must be a uselss wannabe agent for the MIW ?
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Originally posted by ah_lau2:
Maturity is a state of mind... either in the observer, or the one being observed.
I think for your age, you are extremely mature. You are also very smart. No wonder most people lose their arguments to you.
Your biggest fan
Assumptions and admirations are but fleeting impressions of an event at some point in time, and these will change.
You have done pretty well yourself with your efforts at countering my views, except that you have chosen to stand on an impossible side to defend.
It is not maturity alone that helps, but to read and harvest as much information as you can find, and look at the big and bigger pictures that others attempt to divert your attention from.
Life is a kaleidoscope of events and colors, should we be restricted to only one big picture - that is approved and expected for all of us to view ? -
Atobe stop mental masurbating lah...havent you forgotten you are the BS king in this forum?Originally posted by Atobe:Maturity is a state of mind... either in the observer, or the one being observed.
Assumptions and admirations are but fleeting impressions of an event at some point in time, and these will change.
You have done pretty well yourself with your efforts at countering my views, except that you have chosen to stand on an impossible side to defend.
It is not maturity alone that helps, but to read and harvest as much information as you can find, and look at the big and bigger pictures that others attempt to divert your attention from.
Life is a kaleidoscope of events and colors, should we be restricted to only one big picture - that is approved and expected for all of us to view ?
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
If I am the ''BS king'' - only by your standards - I will not be surprised if you are the only one to be able to lavish at the opportunity to 'sniff at the BS' that only you seem to be able to sniff out from the scraps left specially for you.
Atobe stop mental masurbating lah...havent you forgotten you are the BS king in this forum?
After all, you are the acknowledged undisputed ''King Crap-Sniffer''. -
Atobe, didnt mean to spoil your party or mastubation trip here..Originally posted by Atobe:If I am the ''BS king'' - only by your standards - I will not be surprised if you are the only one to be able to lavish at the opportunity to 'sniff at the BS' that only you seem to be able to sniff out from the scraps left specially for you.
After all, you are the acknowledged undisputed ''King Crap-Sniffer''.
if you are not a BS king, then how come you are unable to back up your BS with facts? or are you trying to impress the sheep in this forum?