Singaporeans who side Malaysia and the Hammer!
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While most of us know that Singapore is clearly right in the water dispute with Malaysia, there are some who think that we should give in to Malaysia's ridiculous demands that we pay a higher price for water. Why do they do that?
On the Hammer, well, the Workers' Party seems to be revitalising itself and perhaps even Singapore politics.
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Originally posted by The Void Deck:While most of us know that Singapore is clearly right in the water dispute with Malaysia, there are some who think that we should give in to Malaysia's ridiculous demands that we pay a higher price for water. Why do they do that?
nothing lah... every country must have its fair share of loud mouth babboons mah.... its not fair to malaysia if they are the only nation with babboons..... although malaysia do seem to have a much much higher proportion of babboons then most NORMAL countries....
On the Hammer, well, the Workers' Party seems to be revitalising itself and perhaps even Singapore politics. talk too soon... i wait and see...
See our views on these 2 matters close to Singapore in
http://www.thevoiddeck.org -
Allo tripwire
Yah baboons and monkeys not lacking in Malaysia. Somehow some escaped here too. At least our MPs are beating the drums. But the typical Ahmad-Ah Beng-Muthu-Rozario Singaporeans should also wave the flag. Or at least keep quiet for now if they disagree. Malaysians will only know we are divided and would press on.
Workers' Party? True, we've to wait and see. -
the true strength of an open society is manifested in its ability to debate publicly on controversial issues.Originally posted by The Void Deck:Allo tripwire
Yah baboons and monkeys not lacking in Malaysia. Somehow some escaped here too. At least our MPs are beating the drums. But the typical Ahmad-Ah Beng-Muthu-Rozario Singaporeans should also wave the flag. Or at least keep quiet for now if they disagree. Malaysians will only know we are divided and would press on.
Workers' Party? True, we've to wait and see.
presenting an opposing view s NOT a sign of weakness, but a sign of confidence and strength. why try to shut down dissenting voices unless u're AFRAID of them? -
HurrahOriginally posted by CX:the true strength of an open society is manifested in its ability to debate publicly on controversial issues.
presenting an opposing view s NOT a sign of weakness, but a sign of confidence and strength. why try to shut down dissenting voices unless u're AFRAID of them?
Finally, a true modern open minded and tolerant Singaporean.
A truly confident and mature Citizen of Singapore's great future.
There is future for Singapore's politics.
Let us hope our "Leaders" in Government has also the same mature and open mind, and FOLLOW the Singapore Citizen's examplary political openess. -
True. But the views and opinions which one express has to be well thought, and do not say something stupid.
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Allo CXOriginally posted by CX:the true strength of an open society is manifested in its ability to debate publicly on controversial issues.
presenting an opposing view s NOT a sign of weakness, but a sign of confidence and strength. why try to shut down dissenting voices unless u're AFRAID of them?
Haha, valid point. But we don't dispute that reasoned open debate on controversial issues is a sign of a mature self-confident Singapore from a civil society argument perspective. That's what all these internet forums are for, to slowly build up our resilience towards valid criticisms and tolerance of dissenting views.
However, on the issue of Singapore's water spat with Malaysia and the role Singaporeans could play, we are standing on the soapbox and voicing inter-state, rather than intra-state, concerns. By the dissent in our ranks, Malaysia would know what makes us tick and what could cause us to pressure the government to even be more accomodating towards the Malaysians' scam.
For example, some of us already dislike the idea of drinking Newater. It's a matter of time before Malaysia starts a propaganda drive to hit Singapore on that front like mentioning about the harmful effects of Singapore's Newater in the long term etc. Those who are already on the fence where Newater is concerned might just go along with the Malaysia ploy that we should just pay a bit more for their sweet water as after all, it is merely the price of a plate of char kway teow per 1000 gallons of water, something that Singapoeans can afford anyways.
Afraid of dissenting views? We all know it depends on the context and a straight yes and no answer would be inappropriate.
To take a step back, let's look at our own metaarguments here. Both of us have different views on why Singaporeans should have their own mind on the water dispute. Your angle is a civil society one while ours is a flag waving one. -
read my other posts. u think i'm a mat loving, pro-matland, liberal softieOriginally posted by The Void Deck:To take a step back, let's look at our own metaarguments here. Both of us have different views on why Singaporeans should have their own mind on the water dispute. Your angle is a civil society one while ours is a flag waving one.
lets be objective here. no amount of matland propaganda will turn Sg against Newater already. its cleaner than what some americans drink man!
and the bottom line is, self sufficiency of a strategic resource is the most compelling argument a politician can come up with.
i'm a patriot and i can turn into a rabid nationalist too at the drop of the hat, but that is uncalled for now. the opposition is already so damn weak that it is totally unnecessary to pay overwhelming attention every time they sneeze!
if anything, we need a bigger credible opposition representation so Sg can grow stronger.