Those are the ones who wish to hog the limelight and score points. But there are others who do stuff in a more diplomatic manner.Originally posted by CX:have u considered the emotional effect of some reckless politicians or loud mouthed activist who clamour to cut the water supply to Sg every time there is a bilateral spat?
I believe that the legalistic aspect of Singapore is not wholely due to the Malaysian politicians only. For example, reclaimation, legally there is nothing wrong with your actions. But morally have you all considered the livelihood of the people living on the coastal areas? It shows a part of Singapore that refuses to compromise as well.
it is a constant irritation to us. next time u wonder why Sg is so arrogant, insensitive and legalistic, tell your politicians to look in the mirror. they are the cause of it.
Those are the ones who wish to hog the limelight and score points. But there are others who do stuff in a more diplomatic manner.but their voices are the loudest and received with the most applause. i frankly find it very hard to believe that indulging in rabid xenophobia is not a very good way to advance one's political career in M'sia.
I believe that the legalistic aspect of Singapore is not wholely due to the Malaysian politicians only. For example, reclaimation, legally there is nothing wrong with your actions. But morally have you all considered the livelihood of the people living on the coastal areas? It shows a part of Singapore that refuses to compromise as well.of course we don't care about the fishing villages on your side of the border! they're strictly your problems.
wake up.....can't you see it's the malaysians that play wif us more? Go read the papers.....Originally posted by Typhoon:Wah... got new malaysian to play with liao...![]()
u mean their 6 months long boys/girls scouts camp?Originally posted by Silenthunter:wake up.....can't you see it's the malaysians that play wif us more? Go read the papers.....![]()
no surprise there... yes, your gov't and media has made it clear that the NS policy in no way serves to bolster the strength of the MAF.Originally posted by Sudaimiki:However, it is interesting to note that females in Singapore need not do national service. I believe, even a 6 month national service trainning them as medical personal should do them no harm. Why is it that AWARE on your side is so against it? {Sorrry, was quite busy these few months and had little time to properly update myself. please correct me if I made any errors factually}
Won't it be better that Malaysian take a good look in the mirrorOriginally posted by Typhoon:Why is it your country is hated by all the others in the region (Thailand, Phillipines and Indonesia) while ours isn't?

Looking at the mirror will only make them look uglierOriginally posted by Gun:Won't it be better that Malaysian take a good look in the mirror
before judging others with hate in their minds ?
WW2 is a logistic war. It is of no suprise that 1/2 the Americian servicemen are front line troops. The Axis powers have themselves to blame for pitting themselves against the industrial might of USA then. {Of course by fighting 2 front at the same time with Night Bombing by the Allies condemned the Germans to eventual failure.Originally posted by CX:and its expensive. defence is a black hole. no amount of money spent on it is ever enough. promoting and operating it as a choice career would not be cheap.
as for women, my opinion is, what for? Sg is short of men due to declining birth rate, but we do not need to double the pool of human resource by conscripting women. thats overkill.
as mentioned, Sg's NS performs a very different purpose. its primarily for defence.
also, i think its shallow to think that numbers are everything. its not. its a common myth in military ops. in WW2, less than 1/2 of American servicemen were front line troops. the rest of them were in the equally crucial area of providing logistical services.
A good example of this would be the Korean war where China troops wiped out the X Corps {not too sure abt this one please check} at Yalu River.Originally posted by CX:of course, numbers can overwhelm, but its ultimately a question of striking a balance. having a strong front line force with little logistical support will grind even the most determined advance to a halt.
thats also true. the chinese could always spare more in terms of manpower than the UN forces and they required significantly less logistical support than the UN forces.Originally posted by Sudaimiki:A good example of this would be the Korean war where China troops wiped out the X Corps {not too sure abt this one please check} at Yalu River.
What for? To cope with a dire shortage of manpower in services such as nursing, the logistical/service arm of the SAF and other areas. Neither Sudaimiki, nor many guys in Singapore, are calling for women commandoes in the SAF or anything like that. Wouldn't conscripting Singaporean women into non-combat vocations in the army, or into the civilian sectors such as nursing serve the purpose of freeing up more men into combat vocations as well making up manpower shortfall? And if NS is so good for fostering national identity like its proponents always claim it does(very subjective IMO), why foster national identity in Singaporean men and not women?Originally posted by CX:as for women, my opinion is, what for? Sg is short of men due to declining birth rate, but we do not need to double the pool of human resource by conscripting women. thats overkill.
cos AWARE is a bitches bitchy bitch club...... wat else can you expect from bitches....Originally posted by Sudaimiki:For your info I am not new here
Just that my work commitments does not allow me to come to the web as often as I wish to.
I believe Viper52, Shotgun or even CX will remember me as the one who debated with them on the issue of IDF in Jenin.
It is a pity that most discussion nowadays degrade to flaming and namecalling on both sides.
Yes Tyhoon, if you wish to play, I don't mind a constructive discussion on any issue. But if you wish to play as in name calling, I am sorry, I do not entertain in this manner...watching a sitcom would do you better.
As for nation service on my side, I believe it is more of a social cohesion thingy rather than to be perceived as a military build up. I believe most of you guys here who have done your nation service know that it is impossible to properly train a soldier in any time less than 2 years. But whether you all wish to be on guard against such a build up is up to your government.
However, it is interesting to note that females in Singapore need not do national service. I believe, even a 6 month national service trainning them as medical personal should do them no harm. Why is it that AWARE on your side is so against it? {Sorrry, was quite busy these few months and had little time to properly update myself. please correct me if I made any errors factually}
Don't listen to that shit... I remember in a Straits Times editorial sometime last year about Women in NS in which the head of AWARE commented that unless equal oppurtunities were provided to women, they should not be burdened with NS" or something in that vein.
From the NS for women forum:
From AWARE's website:
5.National Service
Women are not required to serve National Service, which is compulsory for men. Because they have given 2-3 years of their lives to the nation, men enjoy salary and tax benefits. Many also develop a network of friends that can be advantageous in their work life.
GovernmentÂ’s Rationale
Asian parents do not want their daughters to go through national service.
AWAREÂ’s Comment
The principle of equal treatment should apply in all areas. If young men are asked to give 2-3 years of their life to the nation, so should women. The concept of National Service should be broadened. In keeping with the principle of Total Defence, women drafted for NS – and men unsuitable for military service – can serve the nation in many other ways.
Proposal
Women and men should be called up equally for compulsory national service. They should have the choice of military or non-military service and there should be no hierarchical distinctions for either arm of NS. Measures should also be taken to eliminate sexual stereotyping and any possibility of sexual harassment while young Singaporeans serve their National Service.
China has already admitted to being involve in the Korean war. The reason why the army is called PVA not PLA.Originally posted by CX:china never joined the korean war... the soldiers were not PLA troops but peoples' "volunteers").
Originally posted by want to know:China has already admitted to being involve in the Korean war. The reason why the army is called PVA not PLA.
Why did PRC send troops under the name of volunteer army?
Although the western forces in Korea were in fact commanded by US generals and ultimately the US president in a crusade to "rollback communism", they were technically a UN "police" force. To avoid officially declaring war on US, Britain, France and other UN members, China sent forces in the name of People's Volunteer Army (PVA) instead of PLA (People's Liberation Army).
Link: http://centurychina.com/history/faq1.shtml#1
What do you think?
To avoid officially declaring war ...... China sent forces in the name of People's Volunteer Army (PVA) instead of PLA (People's Liberation Army).so DID the Chinese State declare war against the UN police force or NOT? well, NO! the PRC was NOT officially at war and the "volunteers" in effect, had nothing to do with the state. OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT'S BULL-CRAP!
You will be surprise what China can do. China people are damn patriotic and are wiling to die for their country. China has an almost unlimited supply of manpower. Their army are the largest and most powerful in the world. Second to none. Technology can only go so far. Unless of course if nuclear bomb are use.Originally posted by CX:thats also true. the chinese could always spare more in terms of manpower than the UN forces and they required significantly less logistical support than the UN forces.
the UN forces often found themselves outnumbered and overwhelmed.
they could take the losses and face no domestic response. and it should be noted that they faced casualty rates far higher than the UN forces.
pray how is any country in this region able to spare that type of trained soldiers in such great numbers and armed properly in such a short time so that they'll stand a ghost of a chance in today's battlefields and actually be able to die in great numbers without domestic politics pressuring for an end to the body bags???
I think Singapore has the cash to spare but don't have the men to spare.Originally posted by CX:and modern warfare is expensive. even if u had men to spare
i REFUSE to comment to idiots who quote me out of context.Originally posted by want to know:You will be surprise what China can do. China people are damn patriotic and are wiling to die for their country. China has an almost unlimited supply of manpower. Their army are the largest and most powerful in the world. Second to none. Technology can only go so far. Unless of course if nuclear bomb are use.
Originally posted by Arcane77:Err. . . .I have to disaggree with you here.Islam is generally a peaceful religion.It is those extremist who have been painting it in blood.Jihad, according to the Koran , is only used when your country is under attack.All human beings are to be respected regardless of their race or religion.Under no situation, are muslims allowed to kill their fellow human beings for no rhyme or reason.
The reason why most of the [b]CIVILIZED (I cannot stress the word enough!) world dislike and distrust Malaysia and most other Muslim nations is because of their extremism of their religion.
In regards to Malaysia, it is run and led by corrupt politicians who are Muslim and they are all as crooked as the letter "Z". Noticed how megawati got to power? she is just a puppet, just for show. to show the world that in a muslim country there is a woman in power- give me a break! why then are women treated like crap, looked down apon, shrowded and covered up and have to take commands from men? these women will stand up and defend this, justifying this one sided ,male domination, but sadly they don't know any better.
this is one issue the world has with muslim nations. people, open your eyes, look and understand. you are on the internet, the "super highway of information" find out what is really happenning out there dont be so blind and just go with the info in the local paper, it's not enough!
Secondly, there is a serious flaw in the islamic religion, which religion would allow people to kill other innocent victims for their religion??? its insane! you don't see the bhuddists, chistians, taoists strapping bombs to themselves because their god says to do so?? I grew up in singapore and love how all races and cultures live together without indifference. it only takes one individual who is brainwashed into becomming extreme and taking the words of a holy book and misconstrew it.
thats the problem! the so called Taliban weren't even educated enough to understand their own holy book to see that the message of a holy war was completely taken into the wrong and literal context making it something it shouldnt have become!
education!!! not religious education is needed!! the muslim religion is really a dictatorship over peoples freedom to be civilized human beings.!!!!
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