MM Lee keeps boasting of his success causing more offences.
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In MM Lee's replies to questions raised at the recent international panel of lawyers held in Singapore it is clear that he could easily deny he or his government is curbing freedoms of speech or criticisms of government with half truths and fallacies without objective measurements apple-to-apple comparison or basis.
This kind of answering to criticisms can be endless and inconclusive and no one could ever get to the truth. It will be contentions ad nausem where no one will be the wiser at the end.
If this case the international reports he was trying to reply to ranked Singapore's freedom of press or accountability as 146th - among the worse fascist regimes.
Yet he simply replied to such reports by coming up with other reports ranking of Singapore as among the best or the top like regarding the rather limited aspects of rule of law relating to banking etc but refused to acknowledge other independent international reports which ranked Singapore's press freedoms at 146th which bear no relationship to banking law.
He is using fallacy as well by comparing his ministers' salaries to some benchmarking done of private sector CEOs. Many of the CEOs who were earning millions being benchmarked to are actually non-comparable entrepreneurs and investors who derived higher salaries from their own business success but no MM Lee still insisted on such fallacious comparison for his own purpose probably relying on his political power to overrule all within and without right or wrong.
This has been his comparisons of Singapore's performance in all areas as well by comparing selectively to those who support his argumentations.
He could not counter objectively the 146th ranking of Singapore in term of press freedom and all he could add it to say that Singaporeans can read anything or almost anything namely quite a number of magazines without mentioning magazines banned or curtailed by his actions.
In this way he will endlessly contend and contend by fallacious argumentations of his own withoutapple-to-apple comparisons or basis. -
look at it another way... he is promoting singapore on the international market for investors to come to singapore to create jobs for you and me... raise our salary and increase the value of singapore dollars so that we can go cheap cheap cheap in other countries...
he may be old... but at least he got brain.... he isnt boasting... he is promoting singapore to the world... and where better to do so... then in a conference attended by the who and who....
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LI AO ofcoz clever lah, compare taiwan and singapore.i can juz laugh at it.maybe he wan to be the president.hahaOriginally posted by robertteh:Li Ao is right. This response is typical of the average Singaporeans who are easily satisfied with simplistic material wellbeing lacking the intellectual abilities to check on their government to make them govern with accountability and responsibility.
That is why the government is behaving arrogantly and even trying to interfere with internal affairs of other countries. They will meet their match. -
So it can also be argued that by the same token he is also promoting our business prospect and better the lives of citizens' when he is using the same fallacies to benchmark ministers' salaries to selective CEOs' million-dollar salaries to good advantage.Originally posted by tripwire:look at it another way... he is promoting singapore on the international market for investors to come to singapore to create jobs for you and me... raise our salary and increase the value of singapore dollars so that we can go cheap cheap cheap in other countries...
he may be old... but at least he got brain.... he isnt boasting... he is promoting singapore to the world... and where better to do so... then in a conference attended by the who and who.... -
Take an example. an old worker disappears from work and hops onto a more decent job.Originally posted by tripwire:look at it another way... he is promoting singapore on the international market for investors to come to singapore to create jobs for you and me... raise our salary and increase the value of singapore dollars so that we can go cheap cheap cheap in other countries...
Originally posted by robertteh:
So it can also be argued that by the same token he is also promoting our business prospect and better the lives of citizens' when he is using the same fallacies to benchmark ministers' salaries to selective CEOs' million-dollar salaries to good advantage.
From employee point of view, this is crucial and essential.
From ex-management point of view, this reflects badly on the worker's immediate supervisor, and so, more rules are implemented to tie future workers down.
THE PROBLEM IS:
With gahmen selling hard policies like a salesmen in advertising styles (e.g. GST, CPF, ERP, Bus Fare, Rental Prices, etc.) we start feeling a voice amiss, and fearing that commoners are getting less resourceful instead of more, with every policy ?
"Management point of view" gets magnified and "workers' point of view" gets pin-holed.
It's is no longer the Sg system helping the commoners, but system extracting the most values out from the commoners.
Seems like the system and the commoners are becoming different entities. Whatever happened to the proverb "knowing your source of water" ? or as outsiders put it, "own people eat its own people" ?
The only solution is be a PR and be appreciative about Sg and any country. -
Malaysia being more driven... you xiao is it..?. how to when they are still being shackled with a big ticking TIME bomb called NEP around their ankles, condemning ordinary Malaysians into perpetual slaves. In fact, FDI into the country has been falling and their projected economic growth this year will be rather dismal..... only thing lubricating and propping them is the 720,000 barrels of oil the country produces per day... Singapore's reserves is still a good US60 billion more than them.... please la, dun use Msia as a comparison... you make me laugh (Not trying to be arrogant or rude to any Msian here).. A good analogy is this... Msia is like a person who has a rich dad who left him plenty of properties and assets and Spore, a driven, hardworking and your normal everyday working joe... but Joe has more savings than the Kai Chai>
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fallacies??Originally posted by robertteh:So it can also be argued that by the same token he is also promoting our business prospect and better the lives of citizens' when he is using the same fallacies to benchmark ministers' salaries to selective CEOs' million-dollar salaries to good advantage.
the voters decide if they are indeed worthy of the salary paid. -
Not true that this matter was decided by voters in general election as they were no referendum put up for decisions on specifics.Originally posted by tripwire:fallacies??
the voters decide if they are indeed worthy of the salary paid.
Elections furthermore are full of walkovers engineered by the GRC system. There are no true representation of people in our election. -
What a superficial way of getting people to love the country