Can we lodge report to the United Nation on our difficulties
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Dr Chee Soon Juan is trying to solve the problems at the root.
What people are complaining about are the symptoms of the disease.
The disease is very clear, unaccountable, nontransparent, dishonorable behavior in elections, control of the press to do propaganda and that is why some people have a bad impression of Dr Chee.
Dr Chee is for accountability, transparency, honorable behavior in elections, and press freedom.
This is what is required to solve the disease.
Support Dr Chee for the cure.he is fighting a just, worthy and honorable cause.... if you support his cause, help him... as simple as that... no rocket science involved...
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i appreciate that you are an ardent fan but surely this is too much ? you made your point then move on lah. You are like a serial spammer man, what more on other threads as well. Its no good for the forum.
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Dr Chee is making so many personal sacrifices... the least we can do is to help him promote his just, worthy and honorable cause....
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This thread is not about Chee, if you have made your point then move on...else buy an advertising slot here.
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Dr Chee Soon Juan's detractors are now resorting to name-calling... they have no more valid arguments against the man and is now resorting to primary school tactics....
maybe because they have primary school mentalities...
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Hahaha.....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Dr Chee is making so many personal sacrifices... the least we can do is to help him promote his just, worthy and honorable cause....
Don't worry Andrew..... CJS have 'promoted' himself well enough.
What he need is ppl who will stand by his side as he protest..... but we now know that person won't be you..... -
This thread is not about Dr Chee but Dr Chee is a solution to the problem raised by this thread.... as is happens, he is a solution to most of the problems raised in Speaker's Corner....
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Dr Chee Soon Juan's detractors are now resorting to name-calling... they have no more valid arguments against the man and is now resorting to primary school tactics....
maybe because they have primary school mentalities... 
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I wasn't talking about you... but are you having a guilty conscience?Originally posted by kramnave: -
I was certain that you were not talking about me but its funny that statement came from you, thus i was pretty shocked.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I wasn't talking about you... but are you having a guilty conscience? -
hello, gentlemen andrew and kramnave, let's just focus on the topic and not shang he qi. We are here to discuss for the good of our nation.
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you should look at the previous page and see the name-calling for yourself...
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huh? we are very polite to each other wat....
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Erm back to the topic ah...Originally posted by qlqq9:hello, gentlemen andrew and kramnave, let's just focus on the topic and not shang he qi. We are here to discuss for the good of our nation.
Ok..UN bothers itself with children getting a chance to go to school, children dying of hunger, African malnourishment etc. A bigger focus is set on the developing world and their injustices. Of pressing concern should be of Darfur, Zimbabwe, Myanmar, Iraq etc.
We belong to a very privileged few in the world. On the world stage, whatever problems that we encounter are seriously menial. As we type and share our concerns here at this point, there are people dying out there, children prostituting themselves and workers getting seriously abused.
Going back to the topic, "can we lodge report to the United Nations on our difficulties ?". The answer is yes you can and in fact i'm sure that they know whats goin on here as well. To expect them to do anything about it is probably equivalent to a tai tai complaining about the prices of her Guccis and LVs while the main concern is food prices if you get what i mean. -
Everyone here know my dislike for CJS..... but I most ADMIT he is correct in this. Hahaha.... maybe his 'Dr' wasn't store brought after all.Originally posted by kramnave:"The Government can jail 10 persons; it can even jail 100 persons but it cannot jail 10,000 persons. A nonviolent action campaign needs to have the participation of the masses if it is going to succeed. But remember that mass movements always start with the leadership of the few who have the courage to make sacrifices and the vision to bring the people into the future. Many countries have faced similar circumstances as ours, some with situations much worse, but through the intelligent and persistent use of nonviolent action, they were all able to overcome the dictatorial regimes and establish democracy in their countries."
- Chee Soon Juan.
The S'pore Police Force haven't seen a full scale protest since the late 70s. I doubt they have even seen a protest by more than 20 ppl.
CJS don't need 10,000 ppl..... 1,000 will shock the Govt, the police, and the public. If the Govt were to crack down the protester..... PAP would look just as bad as the Myanmar Govt. And since S'pore chair Asian this year..... double Bad. If the ISD were to arrest CJS and his leader in the middle of the Night..... same thing.... the World would condenm as as they have condenm Myanmar.
If the Govt decided to do nothing...... more & more ppl will be bold enough to hold more protest... in bigger Number.....
Therefore a win-win plan for CJS and a damn if you do..... damn if you don't for the Govt.......
But I go to bed every night KNOWING this will NEVER HAPPEN Why.....
Because S'porean (including ME...) are mostly, if not all, NATO..... NO ACTION, TALK ONLY
Even our 'old war horse' & CJS supporter had admitted that he would only donate money to CJS, but won't join him at the 'battleground'..... anyone here knows of a National built this way... Everyone donate money to buy arms, but no one wants to bear arms..... 
We seat infornt of our PC, laptop day in day out, talk co*k sing song about politic as if we are expet..... you come up with an idea, I come out with an idea..... but when its time to stand up and be counted.... where are WE S'poreans
CJS wants 10, 000 supporter..... DREAM ON
Look at how many 'supporter' was really there at the wear Black T-shirt at the Centrepoint protest..... It was a total JOKE.... But look at that thread here, how many said they are supportive of the protest..... then where are the ppl
People expect PAP to help them...... if no help came, then the Opps to 'save' them. And if Opps failed.... UN come to help. But what about WE HELPING OURSELVE What about we saving ourselve If we can't even bother to stand along our chosenLeader while he/she risk their Freedom.... WE INDEED DESERVE TO END UP WITH PAP FOR ALL TIME -
ai yah... what kind of topic is this? UN won't care... the UN have a High Commissioner for Human Rights but the despots in Singapore are persecuting those political opposition that can challenge them, not the population in general.Originally posted by qlqq9:hello, gentlemen andrew and kramnave, let's just focus on the topic and not shang he qi. We are here to discuss for the good of our nation.
They are keeping the population alive to take their money and suck their blood.
The UN does not care when despots "take the citizens' money and suck their blood".
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If everybody in Singapore can donate $100 per year to me, i'm confident of getting 5000 people to be full time political activists and peacefully protest all year long. The target is $400,000,000 p.a and $80,000 p.a for each activist. Please consider
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what root?
he's trying to find problems where there are none!
and then, his trying to undermine the sovereignty of his own country makes him a despicable traitor...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Dr Chee Soon Juan is trying to solve the problems at the root.
What people are complaining about are the symptoms of the disease.
The disease is very clear, unaccountable, nontransparent, dishonorable behavior in elections, control of the press to do propaganda and that is why some people have a bad impression of Dr Chee.
Dr Chee is for accountability, transparency, honorable behavior in elections, and press freedom.
This is what is required to solve the disease.
Support Dr Chee for the cure. -
Unfortunately, your name is not Dr Chee Soon Juan... you don't have a bright future as a specialists of the mind, that you sacrificed for the good of the country... you are not a martyr... ****tennnnagh**** fail.... next...Originally posted by kramnave:If everybody in Singapore can donate $100 per year to me, i'm confident of getting 5000 people to be full time political activists and peacefully protest all year long. The target is $400,000,000 p.a and $80,000 p.a for each activist. Please consider -
Martyr ? Hmm...for a premium, perhaps i can set myself on fire. Need to talk to my special effects team 1st.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Unfortunately, your name is not Dr Chee Soon Juan... you don't have a bright future as a specialists of the mind, that you sacrificed for the good of the country... you are not a martyr... ****tennnnagh**** fail.... next... -
before you do that, get a doctorate first ok... ?Originally posted by kramnave:Martyr ? Hmm...for a premium, perhaps i can set myself on fire. Need to talk to my special effects team 1st.
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andrew and kramnave, think the best solution is still to vote them out. The destiny of Singapore lies within our own hands.Originally posted by kramnave:Martyr ? Hmm...for a premium, perhaps i can set myself on fire. Need to talk to my special effects team 1st. -
I don't think the opposition wants PAP to be voted out at this point of time.Originally posted by qlqq9:andrew and kramnave, think the best solution is still to vote them out. The destiny of Singapore lies within our own hands. -
Hire special effects team and ignite a fire myself dunnit doctorate...In singapore cham..find job need qualifications. KPKB also need qualifications...now set myself on fire also need qualifications...sigh..Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:before you do that, get a doctorate first ok... ? -
You want to kill yourself, you do not need any qualifications to do that but if you want support, you have to prove yourself like Dr CheeOriginally posted by kramnave:Hire special effects team and ignite a fire myself dunnit doctorate...In singapore cham..find job need qualifications. KPKB also need qualifications...now set myself on fire also need qualifications...sigh..