Originally posted by the Bear:
free press???
a free press that stole an election for Dubbya..
think about it.. find out.. who is being myopic here?
i've asked about how democracy is being practised around the world, and all you can do is come up with this??
You're either hopelessly myopic or naively stupid to make such sweeping statements.
Lest your intellect does not permit your comprehension of the 2000 debacle, while the GOP-leaning press did call the elections in favour of Bush in Florida prior to the official release of results, you may wish to know
that did not decide the presidential race as you had been mistakenly led to believe.
It was the question of the hole-punching issue on ascertaining the confusion of the voter's intent that had been casted - which was eventually decided
5-4 in Bush's favour by the US Supreme Court in "Bush v Gore" that the Florida electoral procedure should stand - which led to the eventual Bush victory. By all accounts, the lawyers running the roost for the Democrats in the campaign didn't put up a very strong case, but that's story for another day.
Now, maybe you would like to shed some light on the sort of drivel you could "come up with" to even back your nonsensical polemics about the press not being free? At the very least, you are not deprived of gaining access to a press inundated with opinions that give Dubya a run for his money, are you? More importantly, you don't see frivolous libel suits being thrown around, do you?
Originally posted by the Bear:
seriously.. do you even KNOW that people are asking questions about democracy.. the most participative types which the swiss have?
sometimes, it comes back to this: just coz everyone says so, does it mean i have to do it?
i can disagree... and isn't that the premise of freedom and democracy?

i disagree with you.. but i'm not allowed to in your form of democracy, is it?
i can't say that CSJ is a charlatan that he is... it's not your form of democracy either right?
believe what you will.. we sure as hell ain't gettin' no Nobel Prizes anyhow :lol
Well, by your warped logic founded on concepts comprehensible to the insane and delusional, you surely must be unaware of the need for
reasonable causes and doubts for your hypothesis to stand, are you? After all, why don't you make a case for you having the right to murder someone and expect to get away scot-free on the basis that you're doing something "everyone else" isn't doing? Surely, you must deserve a pat on your back for having the guts to be different just for the sake of doing so.
Sure, you're entitled to disagree with me and call CSJ a charlatan. That's freedom of speech and expression just as I'm every bit entitled to label you an idiot of the highest order which I regard to be an apt and appropriate description of you. After all, I'm sure your intellect isn't exactly empowered sufficiently to raise a reasonable doubt on the basis of my assessment to warrant a credible challenge of my judgment (go over the difference why blind assertion of authority doesn't work in the case of someone wanting to commit muder for the sake of being different and you might be better able to comprehend what exactly constitutes press freedom - just maybe).
