Unrelentless Attack on WP.
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When and if WP falls... and people feel that the there are no "moderate alternatives"... they will sooner or later see Dr Chee's wisdom... that against the despots, reasonable and sense is not in their vocabulary... they only know one thing and that is how much more public money they can take.... and who else they can bully...
Originally posted by Poolman:
Taxi companies has been bugging LTA to do it , and even the Parliament has a debate on this but then the PM LKY said : " If LTA lowered the diesel taxes , taxi drivers will be more slack , more lazy to go around for business ."
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Correct. An opposition must do more than just being a watchdog. That is definitely insufficient. LTK can continue being PAP's watchdog if he wants, but he shouldn't cast asperations on another opposition leader.
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I don't think LTK did that whereas SDP had openly voiced their disappointment with WP.Originally posted by thinkpeople:Correct. An opposition must do more than just being a watchdog. That is definitely insufficient. LTK can continue being PAP's watchdog if he wants, but he shouldn't cast asperations on another opposition leader. -
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Kramwave, his next reply to you will be:Originally posted by kramnave:I don't think LTK did that whereas SDP had openly voiced their disappointment with WP.
"Are you Andrew Loh or Pmonkey of WP?"
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Down here not as bad as Sammyboy forums..Originally posted by Ravenclaw82:Kramwave, his next reply to you will be:
"Are you Andrew Loh or Pmonkey of WP?"
As a side issue, you are not the 1st one calling me "kramwave". It's kinda puzzling. Pure coincidental typo or "mn" looks like 'W' ? -
SGF Speakers Corner is much better forum for serious talk and opinions to be voiced, imo. Sammyboy has too much vulgarities and flaming in it...
And I think the SDP's supporters shouldnt do those things to the WP. You can disagree with them, but dont spoil the basic goodwill between humans. By doing so you are gaining no friends but enemies.
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thinkpeople, why don't you post all the anti-Worker's party propaganda posts here instead of opening new threads?
If you keep on flooding the forum with anti-WP propaganda, the forum might lose its focus of critical PAP threads.
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That is thinkpeople's intention. He is using the same nickname in Sammyboy to flood it with anti-WP crap. I hope the moderators in this forum will take note and not allow him to use this forum and make it into Sammyboy Number 2.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:thinkpeople, why don't you post all the anti-Worker's party propaganda posts here instead of opening new threads?
If you keep on flooding the forum with anti-WP propaganda, the forum might lose its focus of critical PAP threads.
Thanks.
By the way, he has many nicknames in Sammyboy, using them to support the SDP in one, and then use another nick to reply to himself criticising the SDP and make it look like it is WP supporters doing it.
Everyone in Sammyboy know that thinknothing/thinkpeople/thinkscum/wayangguru/axthehale, etc (all his nicknames) are just trolls out to play one side against another.
This guy has also been shown to be a liar.
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Simple, no cross-forum posting to be done.
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What is the real ROLE played by LOW.
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To be a credible opposition party, LTK should set up more branches over whole singapore instead of concentrating in Hougang and Aljunid. In western part, there is no opposition at all, so most of the time it is walk over.
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Think he needs time and people who have the time to do that..Originally posted by t_a_s:To be a credible opposition party, LTK should set up more branches over whole singapore instead of concentrating in Hougang and Aljunid. In western part, there is no opposition at all, so most of the time it is walk over. -
on top of that money is also something opposition dun have...Originally posted by kramnave:Think he needs time and people who have the time to do that.. -
WP's A team in Aljunied has gone AWOL: PM
Straits Times, The (Singapore)
Home
Nov 12, 2007
Author: Peh Shing Huei
PRIME Minister Lee Hsien Loong on Sunday took to task the Workers' Party (WP) candidates at Aljunied GRC for disappearing after last year's General Elections.
'Our (People's Action Party) five men are working hard, but the opposition's five have scattered like monkeys when the tree fell,' he said in Mandarin, using a Chinese proverb.
'One of them has ran to Sweden, the other has left the WP. They called it their A team, I say it is A for AWOL,' he added to much laughter at a dialogue at the annual PAP convention.
Mr Lee, who is secretary-general of the PAP, was responding to veteran party member Png Wee Chor, who made an impassioned plea that the PAP bolster its strength at Aljunied GRC ahead of the next polls.
The 68-year-old wanted to know how the party leaders were going to counter the WP's declaration last Sunday that it aims to win a GRC in the next elections, and its argument that failure would mean the end of the opposition here.
In last year's General Election, the WP team that fought in Aljunied GRC scored the highest number of votes among opposition parties in a Group Representation Constituency.
Led by party chairman Sylvia Lim, they took 43.9 per cent of the valid votes, losing to the PAP team led by Foreign Minister George Yeo.
But after the polls, the WP's Mr James Gomez left to work in Sweden and Mr Goh Meng Seng resigned from the party.
Another team member, Mr Tan Wui-Hua, is also working overseas now. The fifth person was businessman Mohammed Rahizan Yaacob.
While Mr Png - one of three dialogue participants who referred to the Aljunied battle - was full of praise for Mr Yeo, he added that the Minister was too busy and hardly had time to meet the residents.
Can the party send to Aljunied a Teochew-speaking heavyweight minister who is preparing to retire?' he asked in Chinese, to laughter.
Mr Lee, who replied in Mandarin, said that even when Mr Yeo travels, he makes time to see the residents, at times meeting them the day he returns home.
He urged Singaporeans to take their vote seriously. 'Think carefully if you want to vote some opposition into the Parliament so you can have some excitement,' he said.
'If they go Awol after that, it won't be easy to solve everyone's problems. Election is a serious matter... and your vote would decide Singapore's fate. Don't treat it as a joke.'
Also looking ahead was Ms Tan Bee Lan, a branch secretary in Aljunied. She wanted the party to keep the same team to battle the WP again.
She said the last contest was 'unchallenging' and the WP avoided local issues. Instead, it canvassed for sympathy over the Gomez issue.
Mr Gomez had claimed during campaigning that he had submitted his minority candidate form, but video footage released later showed he had not.
The PAP focused its firepower on him, turning the issue into a major electoral talking point.
Party chairman Lim Boon Heng said he knows the PAP MPs' work rate in Aljunied is 'above average' compared to other MPs.
'So I think the results will show that people know the MPs care for them. So I'm not too concerned about the next election at Aljunied. Maybe for those of you who think you're safe, you should work harder,' he added.
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BETTER KIASU THAN 'YA YA'
'If you read the articles in...the travel magazines or even in the serious newspapers in America, in Britain, The Economist had a piece recently about how we are doing and how we are tackling the income gap. I think they know Singapore is changing and keeping abreast of the times. So it's not bad. But I think it's also not bad to be kiasu because if you are 'ya ya' , you will get into serious trouble.'
- PM LEE, assuring a PAP activist that Singapore's image is sound with those who matter and that it is better to be kiasu ('afraid to lose' in Hokkien) than to be 'ya ya' ('arrogant' in Singlish)
DO MORE FOR ELDERLY AT WORK
'The acceptance of the elderly in the workforce and their ability to stay on the job and enjoy their work is an area where more can be done...What the young and old want in the workplace are really the same - reward and recognition.'
- MP JESSICA TAN (East Coast GRC), 41, on how employers need to handle young and old employees, to keep both groups happy
LIKE SELLING ICE TO ESKIMOS
'What we need at the end of the day is clarity and not just facts and figures. There is also a need to have a good sales pitch that will be able to convince us that paying for an annuity is the way to go. A sales pitch that will convince even the Eskimos to buy ice.'
- PAP POLICY FORUM VICE-CHAIRMAN SATWANT SINGH, 43, on the need for leaders who know ground sentiments well so they can sell tough policies
EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY
'We will accept that there will always be income disparity, but... we must not let this reality drive a wedge between our people. We are not trying to make everyone economically equal but what we are trying to do is to make everyone feel equal. We cannot guarantee equality of conditions, but we must be able to guarantee equality of opportunity.'
- CENTRAL SINGAPORE DISTRICT MAYOR ZAINUDIN NORDIN, 44, on the need to ensure social mobility to tackle the widening income gap
SAY NO TO SHORT-SIGHTED IDEAS
'We must not easily fall prey to the short-sighted proposals made by the opposition, who push for either protectionism or welfarism. We are Singaporeans who have dignity and integrity.'
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WP chief rebuts Mah's remark on fund access
Straits Times, The (Singapore)
Home
Nov 12, 2007
OPPOSITION MP Low Thia Khiang has disputed National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan's statement on a fund that can be used to improve estates in a constituency.
Mr Low, the MP for Hougang and the Workers' Party leader, said that while the funds have always been available, they were for potential People's Action Party (PAP) candidates and not elected opposition MPs.
He was referring to the Community Improvement Projects Committee (CIPC) funds, which Mr Mah said on Friday have always been there for opposition MPs to make use of.
'This is factually incorrect and misleading,' said Mr Low in a statement he issued over the weekend as chairman of Hougang's Town Council.
He cited two examples to support his charge.
In September 1995, the Hougang Town Council made an application to the Hougang Citizens Consultative Committee (CCC) for CIPC funding to install illuminated carpark direction signs.
'Contrary to Mr Mah's statement, the funds that were 'always there' were not made available to the town council, as no support was given for the town council's proposal by the adviser to the CCC,' said Mr Low.
'Instead, the CCC itself submitted an application to the HDB about two weeks later in October 1995 for a similar project.'
As a result, his town council's application to HDB, the landowner, was held in abeyance by the HDB, said Mr Low.
It was only in September 1997, after the CCC withdrew its application, that the HDB gave the town council the go-ahead for the signs, he said.
'No CIPC funds were given for the project.'
he CIPC, which reports to the National Development Minister, gives funds for minor improvements to estates.
However, access to the money is possible only through the CCC, a grassroots organisation whose adviser is always a PAP representative.
The other case was in 1991, when Mr Low was first elected. The CCC withdrew its application to build a covered walkway from a bus stop to the nearest block in the ward.
'The Hougang Town Council later completed the project without any CIPC funding,' he said.
'Thus, the correct statement should be that 'the CIPC funds had always been there for the potential PAP candidate in opposition wards to make use of',' he added.
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The problem with the PAPies is they like to taunt their rivals. It only make people loathe them. These morons!
The opposition candidates are rookies. Against the GRC anchored by LHL, they garnered 39% of the votes that their election deposits were returned.
It was an embarrassment that the victorÂ’s share of the votes was below the average PAP vote-share of 66.x% ( IÂ’m a Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobe).
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
AWOL (Absent Without Official Leave) is a term used in English-speaking armed forces.
[b]WP's A team in Aljunied has gone AWOL: PM
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I've read a post in SBF. Here's what the poster wrote.
Ex-SAF general doesn't know the meaning of AWOL. One can only be AWOL from an job/office if one is holding that job/office.
The last I checked, it was George Yeo and the PAP team that won the Aljunied GRC GE.
So how could the WP Aljunied team (excepting Sylvia) be AWOL ? Leave from what ?
LHL is a funny guy. No wonder when he said A for AWOL, referring to WP's A team, there was much laughter at a dialogue at the annual PAP convention. -
haha....so you choose to focus on the merits of the AWOL analogy and completely ignore the fact that these WP candidates have no commitment to theor own cause or the welfare of the people they wish to represent. Like some fly-by-night cockroaches, they appear just before the elections and return without a trace back to the sewers from which they have emerged once they have been rejected by the electorate. And they think they can rule a country?Originally posted by googoomuck:AWOL (Absent Without Official Leave) is a term used in English-speaking armed forces.
I've read a post in SBF. Here's what the poster wrote.
Ex-SAF general doesn't know the meaning of AWOL. One can only be AWOL from an job/office if one is holding that job/office.
The last I checked, it was George Yeo and the PAP team that won the Aljunied GRC GE.
So how could the WP Aljunied team (excepting Sylvia) be AWOL ? Leave from what ?
LHL is a funny guy. No wonder when he said A for AWOL, referring to WP's A team, there was much laughter at a dialogue at the annual PAP convention. 
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There's still a long time before the next elections are held. A year of silence doesnt mean that they are not doing anything, deshou? Just that we do not see it and neither did the press report it.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:haha....so you choose to focus on the merits of the AWOL analogy and completely ignore the fact that these WP candidates have no commitment to theor own cause or the welfare of the people they wish to represent. Like some fly-by-night cockroaches, they appear just before the elections and return without a trace back to the sewers from which they have emerged once they have been rejected by the electorate. And they think they can rule a country?
Anyway, i dont see any great improvements with the PAP at helm in Aljunied. They had allowed the fires to occur and 2 died before implementing new rules to the shop's open spaces.
And the installation of traffic lights along Hougang Street 91 has not done any good except to cause traffic jams and fatal accident. I can still remember on July 26 this year, the second day the new traffic lights went into operation - Fatal Accident - At the Traffic Light Junction
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good retort here...Originally posted by googoomuck:AWOL (Absent Without Official Leave) is a term used in English-speaking armed forces.
I've read a post in SBF. Here's what the poster wrote.
Ex-SAF general doesn't know the meaning of AWOL. One can only be AWOL from an job/office if one is holding that job/office.
The last I checked, it was George Yeo and the PAP team that won the Aljunied GRC GE.
So how could the WP Aljunied team (excepting Sylvia) be AWOL ? Leave from what ?
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AWOL?
by Yaw Shin Leong
Is PAP's hegemony so threatened that Mr Lee must up the political ante at this stage? Must a dignified leader resort to monkey-like analogies of his political opponents? Singaporeans after all expect a decent level of decorum from our political leaders.
This is a clear cut attempt by Mr Lee to rally his rank & file at PAP's annual convention by mocking WP candidates. His attempt to justify his million dollar-salaried George Yeo's 'AWOL' (Absence With Official Leave) was laudable though.
Unlike their paid counterparts, James Gomez & Tan Wui-Hua being volunteers of WP have been working hard in Sweden & Dubai respectively. Both James & Wui-Hua are doing what that is right, by bringing bread & butter, first & foremost to their families.
The resigned WP Aljunied team member Goh Meng Seng is currently an Exco Member of National Solidarity Party (NSP). In his new capacity, Meng Seng has been working hard too in serving Singaporeans' interests.
Also, despite all odds & constraints, both NCMP Sylvia Lim & WP Vice-Chairman Rahizan have been working hard on the Aljunied ground. Why is Mr Lee so silent about their efforts?
The way how PAP's troopers reacted and how Mr Lee responded merely exposed their genuine concerns of PAP's support erosion in Aljunied GRC. Will PAP accept WP's challenge and keep Aljunied's boundaries intact? Well, only time will tell...
Given the positive political momentum of things. I urge all WP's members and supporters to remain calm. Just ignore Mr Lee's latest round of rumblings. Collectively we must entrench our gained grounds. More importantly let's continue to be focused.
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Let's stop playing around with semantics here.
If WP is really serious about winning Aljunied GRC, then the entire team should continue to work the ground for the next 5 years like what Steve Chia did.
The fact that James and Wui Hua just disappeared for 5 years shows their committment to Aljunied residents. Will they return to contest in the next GE ?
What residents need are committed MPs on the ground who can solve their problems in daily lives. Being away for so long, will James and Wui Hua understand the needs of the residents ?
Shin Leong's lame excuse for WP shows that there are nobody of real calibre left in WP. It is just a wayang party put up by the regime to protray Singapore as a democracy to the world.
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Can the opposition shake off its Awol label?
Straits Times, The (Singapore)
Prime News
November 17, 2007
Author: Peh Shing Huei
AT EVERY general election here, voters can be sure that a few familiar phrases would be used by the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) to describe the opposition.
'Johnny-come-lately' and 'pop out of nowhere' are among choice favourites.
Now, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has added one more: Awol, or 'absent without official leave'.
At a PAP convention last Sunday, Mr Lee, in response to a question, said that while the PAP's five MPs are working hard in Aljunied GRC, the Workers' Party's (WP) candidates from last year's election have 'scattered like monkeys when the tree fell'.
Mr Lee was speaking in Mandarin and using a Chinese proverb.
He then quipped about the Team A label of the WP's Aljunied candidates, saying A is for Awol.
Two of the five-men WP team are working abroad while another has left the party.
WP organising secretary Yaw Shin Leong, who led a team against PM Lee at Ang Mo Kio GRC at last year's polls, fired back on his blog.
He wrote: 'Is PAP's hegemony so threatened that Mr Lee must up the political ante at this stage? Must a dignified leader resort to monkey-like analogies of his political opponents?
'Singaporeans after all expect a decent level of decorum from our political leaders.'
The verbal sparring aside, the question of whether the opposition pops up only during elections remains. It is an age-old question. Will it ever succeed at trying to shake off this perception? Insight finds out.
HAS THE OPPOSITION GONE AWOL? INSIGHT
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