Gays : To all Singapore Religious Leaders
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PRP --> read this 3 times.Originally posted by Zarks:as long as it doesnt harm anyone around them, it is not wrong what..
plus it doesnt involve you or whoever... they alone like this homosex type, then its their problem.. whats so wrong bout this ? sigh..
unless they naked or do some shameful act in the public then its a different story.. the same goes to heterosex also.
watever it is. its nothin wrong with ppl who wan to be homo. Police would rather do more important stuff than sneaking this kind of ppl which hardly cause harm to ppl..
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Are u selfish?What is your agenda here?Are u here for some self-interest?Originally posted by crosshairs:That is the most fucking selfish statement coming from some fucking self righteous dumbfuck I have seen around here. Now we know the worth some place on their children. THis reeks of some old invalid/outdated bad policy and tradition passed down by the old generation of farmers which do not and should not be applicable in today's society.
U are a verbal 'terrorist'!Mod pls kick him out of this forum. -
PRP the more you talk .. the more mistakes you will make !Originally posted by PRP:quote:
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Originally posted by crosshairs:
That is the most $^&*ing selfish statement coming from some $^&*ing self righteous dumb$^&* I have seen around here. Now we know the worth some place on their children. THis reeks of some old invalid/outdated bad policy and tradition passed down by the old generation of farmers which do not and should not be applicable in today's society.
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Are u selfish?What is your agenda here?Are u here for some self-interest?
U are a verbal 'terrorist'!Mod pls kick him out of this forum. -
Geys want to be accepted by all.I thot they are very open-minded and accomadating ppl -- unlike me
You are right. You are not open minded and you are not accomodating. Using the word gey is really lame -
Regarding the debates on incent,Icemoon is more consistant in his argument but it doesn't mean his stand is correct.SIS is more smart but cunning.I believe he knows both incest & homo are not right but he only argues for homo due to his self-interest but not for incest.
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Originally posted by PRP:
I say homosex is wrong but i accept geys as any human being.
Geys want to be accepted by all.I thot they are very open-minded and accomadating ppl -- unlike me
But when i create a new word "gey" to mean "male homo",they can't accept it and want me to use the word "gay". [b]Double standards ppl![/b] -
Your argument can apply to drug addiction too.Right?Originally posted by Zarks:as long as it doesnt harm anyone around them, it is not wrong what..
plus it doesnt involve you or whoever... they alone like this homosex type, then its their problem.. whats so wrong bout this ? sigh..
unless they naked or do some shameful act in the public then its a different story.. the same goes to heterosex also.
watever it is. its nothin wrong with ppl who wan to be homo. Police would rather do more important stuff than sneaking this kind of ppl which hardly cause harm to ppl..
sigghhhhh -
At least some gay ppl admit they are gay and they are very open-minded bout it and doesnt really care how ppl think of them..
Ppl say they gay, they admit. thats better than dont admit at all..
same goes to lesbian, they also admit if they are lesbian.
As long as they dont harm anyone, they are free to roar the street -
lol , that is your assumption, i never said if it can be applied to drug addiction at all.Originally posted by PRP:Your argument can apply to drug addiction too.Right?
Drug addiction are serious issues. Why ? bcuz drug addicts can cause harm to ppl around them as they can be delusional and they cant think straight.
Duh, this is simple knowledge -
When an action is pleasuarable .....
When an action is pleasurable,it is very difficult to convince ppl it can be wrong.But we all know consuming drug & smoking are pleasurable but they are harmful.So pleasure is not equal to good. -
Originally posted by PRP:
ya. and how do you want to relate this pleasure with homosex?
When an action is pleasuarable .....
When an action is pleasurable,it is very [b]difficult to convince ppl it can be wrong.But we all know consuming drug & smoking are pleasurable but they are harmful.So pleasure is not equal to good.[/b] -
I maintain your argument can apply to drug addiction.Originally posted by Zarks:lol , that is your assumption, i never said if it can be applied to drug addiction at all.
Drug addiction are serious issues. Why ? bcuz drug addicts can cause harm to ppl around them as they can be delusional and they cant think straight.
Duh, this is simple knowledge
Homosex is not good to homosexuals themsleves.They can't have baby.Casual homosex can spread AIDS virus.Higher percentage of geys have AIDS.So is it harmless as u believe? -
[quote]Originally posted by PRP:
[b]I explain again why homo is wrong.It is wrong because:
1.The natural instinct of sex is heterrosexual.Homo goes against nature.
2.The natural purpose of sex is procreation.Homo sex can't achieve the purpose of sex.So it goes against the nature.
3.Higher percentage (than heterosexauals') of local geys are infected with AIDS.
Heterosex in marriage is right & good because:
1.It follows the nature (natural instinct & purpose of sex).
2.Happiness (& responsibilty) to have babies and bringing them up
3.One can be taken care by his children when he is old. -
Originally posted by PRP:
Well u cant just see it in gays,
I maintain your argument can apply to drug addiction.
Homosex is not good to homosexuals themsleves.They can't have baby.Casual homosex can spread AIDS virus.[b]Higher percentage of geys have AIDS.So is it harmless as u believe?[/b]
Normal human being are capable of transmitting the virus to other ppl. Everyone in fact can transfer this virus to another if they dun follow the protective sex way. Be it gays or normal ppl. Those who dont follow the correct way without knowing their partner is clean, they can transmit too
This is too generalised if you only wan to point the finger to gays
what i mean harm is more to physical means. Seriously, i dont hear or read any news bout gays hurting anyone or mayb i missed some.
Talking bout AIDS, even if they have AIDS, they can only transmit to some1 or only by their 'couple' and AIDS cant be transferred by touching and so on.
PLus see it this way, since community isnt very pleased with gays, they tend to stay away from them, i mean most of them. Tat alone already reduce the contact between them and other normal being.
What about normal ppl, u hardly see a seemingly healthy person to have virus in their body and we assumed some1 is healthy by their look which is more dangerous and easier to spread if their couple didnt even know their partner has the virus. Whos to be blame? -
Yup, agree. Hey, you saying I not as smart issit?Originally posted by PRP:Regarding the debates on incent,Icemoon is more consistant in his argument but it doesn't mean his stand is correct.SIS is more smart but cunning.I believe he knows both incest & homo are not right but he only argues for homo due to his self-interest but not for incest.
Suffice to say, all their talk about giving minorities their right is nothing but a farce. Their support for gays is due to their agenda of opposing people who oppose gays. It is like voting for some crappy opposition 'cos they just don't like PAP.
I'm amazed you still bother to reply them. What's the point? Do you think they will even give your points a serious thought?
I think a debate or discussion is a good way to understand each another's viewpoints. You may not agree, it is ok. Tolerance is important, there's no need to resort to ad hominem attacks.
So when you have said your piece, just as I've said mine (but happieman just shrugged it off, I take it that he has no intelligent comments on that), I think it is time to leave it as that.
I'm sure you have better things to do. I'm sure also that you have learnt something from this discussion.
Cheers!
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Suffice to say, all their talk about giving minorities their right is nothing but a farce. Their support for gays is due to their agenda of opposing people who oppose gays. It is like voting for some crappy opposition 'cos they just don't like PAP.
Farce ? Com'on why don't u elaborate on it
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Originally posted by PRP:
if you wan to follow the nature, of course what they are doing is wrong.
[b][quote]Originally posted by PRP:
[b]I explain again why homo is wrong.It is wrong because:
1.The natural instinct of sex is heterrosexual.Homo goes against nature.
2.The natural purpose of sex is procreation.Homo sex can't achieve the purpose of sex.So it goes against the nature.
3.Higher percentage (than heterosexauals') of local geys are infected with AIDS.
Heterosex in marriage is right & good because:
1.It follows the nature (natural instinct & purpose of sex).
2.Happiness (& responsibilty) to have babies and bringing them up
3.One can be taken care by his children when he is old.
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but we need to see bigger picture, which concerns on ppl's security.
THey can do the wrong way by nature, but that doesnt mean they deserved to be treated like ill person. They have their life and they know they are wrong but they still gonna be that way cuz that is how they want their life to be.
And up to what or who are we to judge if their action or lifestyle is so much different compared to us? -
and PRP is the most stupid among all ..Originally posted by PRP:Regarding the debates on incent,Icemoon is more consistant in his argument but it doesn't mean his stand is correct.SIS is more smart but cunning.I believe he knows both incest & homo are not right but he only argues for homo due to his self-interest but not for incest.
this thread is about Gay not incest .. -
the extremist has not standard at all ..Originally posted by PRP:
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Originally posted by PRP:
I say homosex is wrong but i accept geys as any human being.
Geys want to be accepted by all.I thot they are very open-minded and accomadating ppl -- unlike me But when i create a new word "gey" to mean "male homo",they can't accept it and want me to use the word "gay". Double standards ppl!
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drug addition will cause social problems .. like fighting, raping, family problems etc ...Originally posted by PRP:Your argument can apply to drug addiction too.Right?
most importanly ---> drug addiction is a choice ...
gay is inborn
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ! -
Originally posted by PRP:
whether u have sex with same sex or different sex.. as long u don practise protected sex.. u may contract with HIV ... so HIV is not equal to heterosexual or homosexual..
I maintain your argument can apply to drug addiction.
Homosex is not good to homosexuals themsleves.They can't have baby.Casual homosex can spread AIDS virus.[b]Higher percentage of geys have AIDS.So is it harmless as u believe?[/b]
simple knowledge
PRP ---> can I divert you to a site to do simple IQ test ? if you are scare, then don need to answer this .. if you scare .. just don answer me -
PRP --> you see ? how's ur contribution here ... nothing ..Originally posted by Icemoon:Yup, agree. Hey, you saying I not as smart issit?
Suffice to say, all their talk about giving minorities their right is nothing but a farce. Their support for gays is due to their agenda of opposing people who oppose gays. It is like voting for some crappy opposition 'cos they just don't like PAP.
I'm amazed you still bother to reply them. What's the point? Do you think they will even give your points a serious thought?
I think a debate or discussion is a good way to understand each another's viewpoints. You may not agree, it is ok. Tolerance is important, there's no need to resort to ad hominem attacks.
So when you have said your piece, just as I've said mine (but happieman just shrugged it off, I take it that he has no intelligent comments on that), I think it is time to leave it as that.
I'm sure you have better things to do. I'm sure also that you have learnt something from this discussion.
Cheers! -
Agree to some extent.Originally posted by happieman:PRP --> you see ? how's ur contribution here ... nothing ..
I think he should have stopped long ago.
PRP, why waste your time playing the zither to the cow? dui4 niu2 tan2 qin1. -
Originally posted by happieman:
Not trying to disagree but hope to bring in another perspective ..
drug addition will cause social problems .. like fighting, raping, family problems etc ...
most importanly ---> drug addiction is a choice ...
[b]gay is inborn
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ![/b]
Aiya .. dun want la .. or else it will be never ending this way. -
whatever perspective u bring in ... still back to square one la .. anti-gay and nothing else .. hahaOriginally posted by Icemoon:Not trying to disagree but hope to bring in another perspective ..
Aiya .. dun want la .. or else it will be never ending this way.