Gays : To all Singapore Religious Leaders
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haha. first thing i see when i sign in is this thread...Originally posted by crosshairs:No dicks. That's in direct violation of 377A. Its between 2 females.
How hot is it!
hmm...so the human and the alien in the game has boobs and all ar...??? 
but mi not kinked that way...so erm.....yeah...but i know a lot of guys like to see girl on girl acshun...
anyways, what game is it...??
and it's game oni lar....watch the real thing better...no??? -
Stupidissmart,
Even one says he is a gey,I think the police still need evidences to show he has done an anal sex to prosecute him.Am I right? -
No, homo sex is wrong not only because not reproducing.It is wrong because it is against the natural instinct of sex.The rectum is not a sexual organ.The percentage of geys infected with AIDS is higher than herosexual ppl.Why?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Well homo sex is as bad as not reproducing. If homo sex is wrong, then being monks or catholic priests r equally wrong. If he cannot have sex, he cannot reproduce. If u practise homo sex, u can't reproduce. Same outcome.
I've read in some sex education books which say masturbation is wrong.Those books tell the reader how to avoid the habit of masturtabation.(Yes, now some sex educatioan books say masturbation is OK.)Sex is for some pruposes and not just for pleasure.So masturbation is not quite right. -
but not some heterosexuals oso got engage in anal sex lehOriginally posted by PRP:I state my motive first.I debate here for fun.So i speak honestly.
Ppl who oppose to repealing 377a are not intolerant of geys' lifestyle.The law has been there for a long time and there was a purpose for enacting the law.Anal sex is an unnatural sex.The geys have higher percentage of ppl infected with AIDS.These 2 reasons show that anal sex is wrong & bad.
If the homo supporters can convince us that homo is right & good,then of course anal sex shouldn't be a crime.But geys say homo is no right or wrong.I say no such thing.If geys can't show homo is good & right. many ppl still think that it is wrong & inmoral.
if not where we find the anal sex vids online? -
Originally posted by Phaze:And why aren't you guys campaigning to re-establish the laws making oral and anal sex illegal?
And what's the normal position for sex? Should doggie style be illegal? Or Missionary? And probably all of the positions in the Kama Sutra save one?
I guess it's also not normal for people to defecate while sitting. Squat toilets are normal and all sit-down toilets should be illegal. -
Originally posted by PRP:
statistics are stupid
No, homo sex is wrong not [b]only because not reproducing.It is wrong because it is against the natural instinct of sex.The rectum is not a sexual organ.The percentage of geys infected with AIDS is higher than herosexual ppl.Why?
I've read in some sex education books which say masturbation is wrong.Those books tell the reader how to avoid the habit of masturtabation.(Yes, now some sex educatioan books say masturbation is OK.)Sex is for some pruposes and not just for pleasure.So masturbation is not quite right.[/b]
there are more homosexuals than heterosexuals lor
generally the % is higher..
it's skewed!
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Even one says he is a gey,I think the police still need evidences to show he has done an anal sex to prosecute him.Am I right?
It depends isn't it ? If a girl say tat I molest her and there is no evidence tat proves otherwise, then I am guilty for molesting. There r offences tat do not require evidenceNo, homo sex is wrong not only because not reproducing.It is wrong because it is against the natural instinct of sex.The rectum is not a sexual organ.The percentage of geys infected with AIDS is higher than herosexual ppl.Why?
Com'on, heterosexual also have anal sex themselves. If they wanna use the anal, wat has it got to do with u ? Wat has tat got to do with society ? Heterosexual also uses sex toys or tree holes or dolly the inflatable doll which r more unnatural and I don't see u care about them. The only problem homo cause to society is simply reproduction.
About AIDS, heterosexual also have AIDS. It is simply the problem of casual sex. If they 2 r loyal partners and they do not have AIDs, then how will they contract the diesease ? Not all gays practise casual sex.I've read in some sex education books which say masturbation is wrong.Those books tell the reader how to avoid the habit of masturtabation.(Yes, now some sex educatioan books say masturbation is OK.)Sex is for some pruposes and not just for pleasure.So masturbation is not quite right.
Some books ? religious books right ? Wat u believe, u practise it yourself. Don't force us to do the same as u. Show me a scientific/medical website tat shows masturbation is wrong and harmful then I will be more convinced.
I show u a few website myself
http://www.sexualcounselling.com/masturbation.htm
Contrary to common beliefs, masturbation is harmless. Those who masturbate find a sense of physical satisfaction and release of mental tension. It familiarizes oneself with one's own sexual responses.
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/masturbation-guide
While it once was regarded as a perversion and a sign of a mental problem, masturbation now is regarded as a normal, healthy sexual activity that is pleasant, fulfilling, acceptable and safe. It is a good way to experience sexual pleasure and can be done throughout life.
http://menshealth.about.com/od/sexualhealth/f/masturbation5.htm
Masturbation is rarely harmful. Masturbation is a healthy sexual activity. Experiencing sexual pleasure is good for you. In fact regular ejaculation is recommended to help prevent prostate disease.
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/3-27-2004-52239.asp
As a normal tendency, teenagers, with their bouts of manhood and femininity; experiences this feeling. Though it doesnÂ’t stop here, it gets channeled with the passage of time. So the next time you think of this to be an unearthly feeling, perish the thought! ItÂ’s as simple as feeling thirsty and fetching yourself a glass of water. -
Originally posted by PRP:
HAHAHHHahahhHAHAHHAA.... man... you really make my day.
No, homo sex is wrong not [b]only because not reproducing.It is wrong because it is against the natural instinct of sex.The rectum is not a sexual organ.The percentage of geys infected with AIDS is higher than herosexual ppl.Why?
I've read in some sex education books which say masturbation is wrong.Those books tell the reader how to avoid the habit of masturtabation.(Yes, now some sex educatioan books say masturbation is OK.)Sex is for some pruposes and not just for pleasure.So masturbation is not quite right.[/b]
Your sex life, assuming you have one, must be really boring.
So erm... I guess you don't do foreplay like massaging the breasts or genitals because hands are not a sexual organ. And I suppose you only have sex with the intent to reproduce.
You HAVE to be really frustrated. I kinda understand now why you dislike homosexuals.
The percentage of gays infected with AIDS is higher than heterosexual people is because AIDS is transmitted via exchange of bodily fluids and that takes place most easily though anal sex. Also homosexual men tend to be more sexually promiscuous - not because they are homosexual, but because they are men.
But that doesn't make homosexuality wrong. If that's the case, becoming a doctor is wrong because doctors have a higher chance of falling sick due to contact with sick patients.
Lesbians have a lower incidence of AIDS - far lower than any other group. Why?
Anyway, AIDS is not really a gay disease.
From http://www.unaids.org/bangkok2004/GAR2004_html/GAR2004_00_en.htm
- A total of 38.7 million people were living with HIV/AIDS in 2003;
- 35.7 million of them were adults, while 2.1 million children under the age of 15 have been diagnosed with HIV/AIDS as well;
- 17 million of the infected are female; in Sub-Saharan Africa, 57% of all infected persons were female;
Sex in general must be wrong because it's possible to get STDs.
By the way, do you seriously think that AIDS is god's punishment for homosexuality? -
I posted this in the Atheism forum, but I think it's relevant to this topic as well.
http://atheism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=292079 -
Frankly speaking, you have never made any correct argument !Originally posted by PRP:Your arguments are reasonable but not entirely corrrect.
U said my argument made no sense.U are exaggerating your claim.It it realy make no sense,it would be very easy for u to rebut.
I'll probably rebut your arguments in some other days.I maintain my last arguments correct.
To rebuke this - you will make one more mistake ! -
Originally posted by PRP:
You have made me laugh too !! You are just funny !
No, homo sex is wrong not [b]only because not reproducing.It is wrong because it is against the natural instinct of sex.The rectum is not a sexual organ.The percentage of geys infected with AIDS is higher than herosexual ppl.Why?
I've read in some sex education books which say masturbation is wrong.Those books tell the reader how to avoid the habit of masturtabation.(Yes, now some sex educatioan books say masturbation is OK.)Sex is for some pruposes and not just for pleasure.So masturbation is not quite right.[/b] -
No, I think he's gay.
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1 person debate with 4 or 5 members is a bit hard.But don't forget: about 3000 persons signed the petition to repeal 377a but about 10000 persons signed the petitiion to keep the law.
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It is good to make someone laugh.But don't think u are smart.What i said in fact is all correct.But u think is wrong,that's all.Originally posted by happieman:You have made me laugh too !! You are just funny ! -
And the same can be said back to you. Are you some kind of authority where homosexuality is concerned? I mean, I read your posts, I get the idea that you believe the majority is always right, and whatever is written down is undisputable truth despite logical arguments aplenty against certain "norms" taken for granted.Originally posted by PRP:What i said in fact is all correct.But u think is wrong,that's all.
And er, being a laughing stock isn't exactly a good thing, in case you were not aware. -
Reading through all the comments, and using this simple little thread as a guide,I see the cracks forming....and while it may be an overly optimistic assumption,things will change...maybe not now, but soon.
In every societal "flush" and with every new generation learning and becoming more aware...
Oppressors will become the minority.
This is an eventuality.
Unfortunately most homosexual men in this age might not live this change to occur.
Doesn't mean they aren't part of this momentous change that will occur and that they shouldn't stop trying to make the change happen.
It's uplifting to see so many heterosexual Singaporeans approach this subject with open minds.
There is hope.
My thanks, as a Singaporean Homosexual, to all those who view this very big part of myself as something other than a vile abnormality. -
1 person debate with 4 or 5 members is a bit hard.But don't forget: about 3000 persons signed the petition to repeal 377a but about 10000 persons signed the petitiion to keep the law.
10000/4500000=0.002% of the population. The rest can't be bothered enough to sign it. -
Ya ... i think you are the "smartest" among all of us here .. ke ke keOriginally posted by PRP:It is good to make someone laugh.But don't think u are smart.What i said in fact is all correct.But u think is wrong,that's all. -
Right to the point!! well done!!Originally posted by stupidissmart:10000/4500000=0.002% of the population. The rest can't be bothered enough to sign it. -
Perhaps the condition in Singapore is not as bad as California. ANyway, singapore govt has banned gays to wed here. I think the govt is already SOMETHING
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What's the percentage of population who sign to repeal the law?Originally posted by stupidissmart:10000/4500000=0.002% of the population. The rest can't be bothered enough to sign it. -
Is that an insult or a compliment?Originally posted by crosshairs:No, I think he's gay. -
U think u are the smartest -- at least smarter than me,right?Originally posted by happieman:Ya ... i think you are the "smartest" among all of us here .. ke ke ke -
The pro-gey ppl are very argumentative and can't stop their argument (with regards to homo debate),i believe a lot of ppl scare to debate with them.
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U said my argument made no sense.Is this an insult or an dishonest comment?Originally posted by Phaze:I'm not gay and I don't like your argument because it is a very bad argument. Very very bad. Bad on so many levels I don't even know how to start explaining the problems with it. It reveals fundamental misunderstandings on what is 'natural' and ethics in general. But anyway, let's move beyond that for now.
Okay let's take your example, though I don't think you are using the word 'right' in the correct way.
Eating is "right" because you have to eat to live. As you pointed out, if you don't eat, you will eventually die, and death is generally considered a Bad Thing (though overeating is bad as well).
Homosexuality is "right" because when homosexuals improve their quality of life when they have consensual sex with other homosexuals of bisexuals. If homosexuals are denied the ability to have consensual sex with other homosexuality, they will be sexually frustrated and unhappy, and that is a Bad Thing.
Now let's get to your allegation that the instinct of sex is heterosexual, and that homosexuality is indicative of something having gone wrong with the 'natural' instinct.
I agree that homosexuality is a deviation from the normal sexual instinct. But there is nothing 'wrong' with it.
It's natural for my legs to be used for walking. If I use my leg to scratch my other leg, is that 'unnatural'? What about if I use my leg to kick a ball?
Your reasoning frightens me because it reflects a view that we moved away from years ago - and we are far better for it. Your view makes people suffer for what you feel is 'natural'.
Let me give you another example of your version of 'natural'/'right' and 'unnatural'/'wrong'. Many years ago, people thought that right handed was natural and left handed was unnatural. Right handedness was considered 'right' and left handedness was considered 'wrong'. In fact, sinister comes from the latin word for 'left'.
Parents and schools used to try to force left handed kids to use their right hand. This caused a lot of problems and prevented many kids from reaching their full potential as they were effectively handicapped.
We later realized that left-handedness, though 'unnatural' is perfectly okay.
Again, I find it amusing that you try to create the impression that 'geys' don't like your argument even though it makes sense. Your argument makes no sense. Period.
Maybe some children born to be left-handed.If they are really born to be so,then of course it is natural.Anyway,using left hand can also serve the purpose of the hand.
Is gey born?I don't think it is.Can homo sex achieve the prupose of sex, i.e. having children & bring them up?No.