Twin engine fighter spotted
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I was at Kallang the other day when I saw three aircraft landing. They looked like F-16s except that they were clearly twin engined as they had two tail fins. This is not the first time I have seen these planes. Earlier this year at my cousin's wedding I saw two of them taking off.
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F-18 Hornets perhaps?Originally posted by Typhoon:I was at Kallang the other day when I saw three aircraft landing. They looked like F-16s except that they were clearly twin engined as they had two tail fins. This is not the first time I have seen these planes. Earlier this year at my cousin's wedding I saw two of them taking off.
I think they might be American. -
Looks like F-16, twin-tails?
Might be Hornets, they look slim enough... Tomcats are too broad-shouldered to look like Fighting Falcons, and I can't think of any reason why other non-carrier US fighter planes would be hanging around our region. -
I think they were F-15s, because now that I think about it, the fins were vertical and not diagonal as in the case of the Hornet. Also, they looked quite angular and beefier than the F-18. The USAF does have a few detachments at our airbases and the planes that I saw were in the process of landing or taking off, thus indicating that they were land based aircraft. I didn't see them too clearly. The Merdeka bridge was in the way.
My first thought was that they were MiG-29s and we were being invaded, heh heh.
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Hehe... True. The MiG-29 does look like an Eagle from certain angles.
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This is very common. I have seen F/A-18s, F-15s and C17s on numerous occasions, especially during exercises and when US aircraft carriers are in the region. PLAB is used as a "detachment base" for US aircraft stopping over.
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i was over at st john island for the past few days... have been seeing frequent flybys by first.. rsaf f-16s , f5es and skyhawks.. followed by american f15s in between... all with landing gears down..heading north from st john island..
i confirm that those are f15s...bcos of twin engines...and the tailfins do not resembles hornets at all... and they have been flying over my head most of the time and i could have a close visual ID...
but i can say that they are not hornets...or MiGs..
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/22882/1/.html
F-15 Eagles from 3d Fighter Wing, Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska. Actually, you dun even have to see it, you can hear it. The engine sounds different from RSAF fighters.
These could be F-15C using APG-63(v)2 active electronically scanned array radar since 18 of them are based in Elmendorf
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6 to 7 years ago I even skip school to photograph them near PLAB whenever they come for exercise.
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dear cavsgOriginally posted by cavsg:6 to 7 years ago I even skip school to photograph them near PLAB whenever they come for exercise.
im sure u noe it is illegal to plane spotting in singapore..worst still to photograph...its ok to spot them after they fly off away frm their airbase...but do not photograph or watch them using binocular near their airbase..pls be careful on wat u doin..
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Originally posted by NathanG5:dear cavsg
im sure u noe it is illegal to plane spotting in singapore..worst still to photograph...its ok to spot them after they fly off away frm their airbase...but do not photograph or watch them using binocular near their airbase..pls be careful on wat u doin.. 
so those living near airbases must pretend that they never saw anything and turn their heads away -
haha..very funny..read my post again..Originally posted by cavsg: so those living near airbases must pretend that they never saw anything and turn their heads away
the key words...binocular,camera..
just a advice..go ahead if u still doin it..if the RP on prowling doin tat never do anything u tell me..
i serve my NS in airforce for 2.5years...we caught lotsa of dumb fuck becos he just wana take some pic as souvinir...sigh.. -
u can view sembawang air base from some blocks in yishun near chong pang, plab from hougangOriginally posted by NathanG5:haha..very funny..read my post again..
the key words...binocular,camera..
just a advice..go ahead if u still doin it..if the RP on prowling doin tat never do anything u tell me..
i serve my NS in airforce for 2.5years...we caught lotsa of dumb fuck becos he just wana take some pic as souvinir...sigh.. -
yea..u canOriginally posted by cavsg:u can view sembawang air base from some blocks in yishun near chong pang, plab from hougang
infact u can do watever u wan..but dun can caught..SAF 8th core value
viewing is no problem for the RSAF..taking photograph..well just take it tat they dun like it -
my point is, there is no way for rsaf to prevent it. its difficult for them to catch. nowadays rsaf where got enough manpower for all this. last time gates were guard by RP now cisco. if gana caught act blur lor.Originally posted by NathanG5:yea..u can
infact u can do watever u wan..but dun can caught..SAF 8th core value
viewing is no problem for the RSAF..taking photograph..well just take it tat they dun like it -
Aiya, it is not illegal to photograph aircraft in the air, however, I believe it is forbidden to photograph whatever is in the air force base without prior approval from the Mindef.Originally posted by cavsg:my point is, there is no way for rsaf to prevent it. its difficult for them to catch. nowadays rsaf where got enough manpower for all this. last time gates were guard by RP now cisco. if gana caught act blur lor.
Whatever planes take off from the AFbases are visible to everyone, citizen and foreign spys alike. If RSAF wants to hide some top secret weapons, they have to do it in the dark, or covertly overseas. Singapore is too small. Even the US Nevada Edward's AFB cannot hide all the strunkworks (aka stealth projects).
There is a difference between spotting them in the sky in any part of singapore or tom-pepping into any of the air force bases especially Tengah and Paya Lebar. As for Changi AFB, whatever is happeneing there is so visiable when you land at Changi Airport.
I once saw the air base having a small fire (can't really tell what happened), except there was a couple of fire engine trucks and people (fireman/air base personnel??) trying to put off the fire (could be an exercise though)... I saw this as I was touching down in Changi... -
Joe Black is rite...abt Cisco Guards replacing RPs...look carefully..u will realize there is another 2 men in green standing beside them..no man power?Originally posted by Joe Black:Aiya, it is not illegal to photograph aircraft in the air, however, I believe it is forbidden to photograph whatever is in the air force base without prior approval from the Mindef.
Whatever planes take off from the AFbases are visible to everyone, citizen and foreign spys alike. If RSAF wants to hide some top secret weapons, they have to do it in the dark, or covertly overseas. Singapore is too small. Even the US Nevada Edward's AFB cannot hide all the strunkworks (aka stealth projects).
There is a difference between spotting them in the sky in any part of singapore or tom-pepping into any of the air force bases especially Tengah and Paya Lebar. As for Changi AFB, whatever is happeneing there is so visiable when you land at Changi Airport.
I once saw the air base having a small fire (can't really tell what happened), except there was a couple of fire engine trucks and people (fireman/air base personnel??) trying to put off the fire (could be an exercise though)... I saw this as I was touching down in Changi...
ur dreaming i assume..i just went back for my ICT....
read my post...it is illegal to photograph them or watch using binocular around or in the airbase itself...
act blur? nvm..we just confiscate ur camera n c wat did u take..if using binocular..we confiscate tat too..cant do much wif it doh.. -
confiscate can always go buy again. before sept 11, where got check, even after sept 11, the security is only tight externally, i oso go for ICT one and on one occasion i even hang around a classified aircraft park in the hangar, FDS boy.Originally posted by NathanG5:Joe Black is rite...abt Cisco Guards replacing RPs...look carefully..u will realize there is another 2 men in green standing beside them..no man power?
ur dreaming i assume..i just went back for my ICT....
read my post...it is illegal to photograph them or watch using binocular around or in the airbase itself...
act blur? nvm..we just confiscate ur camera n c wat did u take..if using binocular..we confiscate tat too..cant do much wif it doh.. -
So move away from the base lor....200-300m away from the nearest fence, keep to public areas so you'll not be accused of trespass and snap/spot away. The guys at the Dutch aviation society Scramble seem to have no problem doing this at any airport in Singapore...and with a 300mm lens...problem solvedOriginally posted by NathanG5:Joe Black is rite...abt Cisco Guards replacing RPs...look carefully..u will realize there is another 2 men in green standing beside them..no man power?
ur dreaming i assume..i just went back for my ICT....
read my post...it is illegal to photograph them or watch using binocular around or in the airbase itself...
act blur? nvm..we just confiscate ur camera n c wat did u take..if using binocular..we confiscate tat too..cant do much wif it doh.. -
lolz..ok..Originally posted by cavsg:confiscate can always go buy again. before sept 11, where got check, even after sept 11, the security is only tight externally, i oso go for ICT one and on one occasion i even hang around a classified aircraft park in the hangar, FDS boy.
i dunno which airbase ur frm but..didnt noe it was so slack for ur side?
maybe ur airbase too gd life liao -
actually the area 4000ft above sembawang airbase is open for flying training to rsaf and local flying clubs and college. although its restricted to take photos, its so easy for any pilot to fly over sembawang and take photos of it. you could see the chinook hangar and the new fighter runway, in fact any aircraft departing seletar airport can get a good view of sembawang air base. the only airbase thats difficult to photo is tengah.
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Lets not discuss about photographing RSAF bases anymore ok... I won't like the idea of some pepping-toms or less than friendly characters photographing Singapore air force bases to be sent to some foreign ministry/department of defence or some terror cell groups who think they can hire private planes and crash into RSAF bases because there are US AF jets there. I would hate to see that our friendly discussion thread here are used as source of information other suss characters could use to damage Singapore.
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Amen to that.
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yeah, i think so too. i never intended to dwell into photography issue. anyway back to commando sling, many years ago when commando sling just started. i was able to talk to an F-16A pilot on the exercise, he told me that they would win on dog fights but at medium range they were disadvantaged by lack of vbr missile. i heard him telling a F-5 pilot how a F-15 turn on burners and zoom to 40 thousand ft when he got behind it. a logistics officer ever told me that during such exercises, rsaf was trashed by usaf and they were learning lessons from them, that was 5,6 yrs ago. I dun know about the standard of rsaf against usaf nowadays.