In time of war, how will ppl react?
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US deserters flee to Canada to avoid service in IraqOriginally posted by Icemoon:Ask you a question.
Why people still sign on the United States Armed Forces knowing deployment to war-zone like Iraq is inevitable? As the most advanced armed forces in the world, their soldiers are still dying there.
By Charles Laurence in New York
Last Updated: 12:19am GMT 09/01/2005
American Army soldiers are deserting and fleeing to Canada rather than fight in Iraq, rekindling memories of the thousands of draft-dodgers who flooded north to avoid service in Vietnam.
An estimated 5,500 men and women have deserted since the invasion of Iraq, reflecting Washington's growing problems with troop morale.
Jeremy Hinzman: a 'wrong career choice'
Jeremy Hinzman, 26, from South Dakota, who deserted from the 82nd Airborne, is among those who - to the disgust of Pentagon officials - have applied for refugee status in Canada. -
Simple!
I'll ask my butler to take care of the family, bring them to a safe cave..
..while I'll put my cape and take a ride in my precious car..
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Law ? in a WAR situation?Originally posted by kcockicht:i have never killed a man. i like a war to come try squezzing off the trigger and watch him daon over my sight, plunge my blade into their hearts. i would like to gain experience as such. don't think we won't fight and bleed. try us
sg all go by law..never had a chance to try such stuff a license to kill
Hello friend, In war, I heard they say, killing the enemy ...there is nothing legal or not legal about it . Its something else.
Law can comfortably exist and effective in good times.
I am not sure how Law can prevent Sadam from attacking Kuwait or its neighbors or even its own people.
Law says cannot kill.
In War, people kill people.
We need to understand the context and applicability of law.
I think only. My humble opine only. Feel free to correct. -
so why did they still sign on despite knowing the dangers?Originally posted by qpicanto:US deserters flee to Canada to avoid service in Iraq
By Charles Laurence in New York
Last Updated: 12:19am GMT 09/01/2005
American Army soldiers are deserting and fleeing to Canada rather than fight in Iraq, rekindling memories of the thousands of draft-dodgers who flooded north to avoid service in Vietnam.
An estimated 5,500 men and women have deserted since the invasion of Iraq, reflecting Washington's growing problems with troop morale.
Jeremy Hinzman: a 'wrong career choice'
Jeremy Hinzman, 26, from South Dakota, who deserted from the 82nd Airborne, is among those who - to the disgust of Pentagon officials - have applied for refugee status in Canada.
singapore no war to fight we already kaopeh liao .. they got busybody war to fight but still sign on? Americans are stupid or what.
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Singaporeans are patriotic .. you believe?Originally posted by reddressman:that is that and this is this.
we are talking abt sg'lians , pls.
uniquely sgp.
Ask yourself .. are you willing to give that white piece of rock to Malaysia? -
US Army's $20,000 bonus attracts host of recruitsOriginally posted by Icemoon:so why did they still sign on despite knowing the dangers?
singapore no war to fight we already kaopeh liao .. they got busybody war to fight but still sign on? Americans are stupid or what.
Agence France-Presse
Last updated 07:27am (Mla time) 08/28/2007
WASHINGTON -- Nearly all US Army recruits since late July have signed up for a special 20,000-dollar bonus for a quick departure, an official said Monday, amid concerns the Pentagon is eroding combat standards with such incentives.
Out of 6,611 people who enlisted in the Army between the program's start on July 25 and August 24, a total of 6,264 or 94.8 percent are receiving the hefty bonus, in return for agreeing to start basic training within 30 days.
"Practically everyone who's enlisting now is eligible for this 'quick-ship bonus' if they're willing to ship by the end of September," said Douglas Smith, spokesman for the US Army Recruiting Command in Fort Knox, Kentucky.
The 20,000-dollar bonus, which amounts to more than a year's salary for most young Army recruits, is due to expire at the end of the US fiscal year on September 30. -
If the white horses don't appear with a permit to fight with us, RUN!
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Anyone want to fight for a hotel which despots running it like his own family business?
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You are more considerate - you will still fight as long as white horses are fighting alongside.Originally posted by googoomuck:If the white horses don't appear with a permit to fight with us, RUN!
There are many who already come to the self-conclusion that Singapore does not belong to them so if there is a war just run. -
so what does this show? money more important than life?Originally posted by qpicanto:US Army's $20,000 bonus attracts host of recruits
Agence France-Presse
Last updated 07:27am (Mla time) 08/28/2007
WASHINGTON -- Nearly all US Army recruits since late July have signed up for a special 20,000-dollar bonus for a quick departure, an official said Monday, amid concerns the Pentagon is eroding combat standards with such incentives.
Out of 6,611 people who enlisted in the Army between the program's start on July 25 and August 24, a total of 6,264 or 94.8 percent are receiving the hefty bonus, in return for agreeing to start basic training within 30 days.
"Practically everyone who's enlisting now is eligible for this 'quick-ship bonus' if they're willing to ship by the end of September," said Douglas Smith, spokesman for the US Army Recruiting Command in Fort Knox, Kentucky.
The 20,000-dollar bonus, which amounts to more than a year's salary for most young Army recruits, is due to expire at the end of the US fiscal year on September 30.
maybe if SAF pays conscripts regular pay when war is impending, maybe we won't run away also ah. -
white horses will fight with us.Originally posted by googoomuck:If the white horses don't appear with a permit to fight with us, RUN!
imagine if they run away, then we win the war, they dare to come back?
they come back kenna stoned to death man. -
when they run, hopefully they bring along their wife, the rifle, with them.Originally posted by robertteh:There are many who already come to the self-conclusion that Singapore does not belong to them so if there is a war just run.
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Universal Truths:Originally posted by robertteh:You are more considerate - you will still fight as long as white horses are fighting alongside.
There are many who already come to the self-conclusion that Singapore does not belong to them so if there is a war just run.
1. For Every ACTION, there is an Equal and OPPOSITE Reaction.
2. KARMA / Retribution.
3. Ying & Yang.
4. Act toward People how you wanna People to Act unto You.
If, IF there are sg'lians who already doon feel they belong,
They need to Ask themselves the Y.
Personally, I am confident they know the Y.
But sg'lians are self preservatory - ownself song can oready. No one OWEs anyone a living. You die your parsar malam. kllbccbtlphklkyks!
...and I like to add, 'if you pay me money many many, call me a whore or prostitute oso can lah, I am your poodle. for that price, oso can do for you free - sabo own kind , tekan own kind, as long as not affected, implement this and that so as to achieve your balls shiok shiok kana tickled song song. Mee Siam oso ai mai hum." mentality. -
O RLY?Originally posted by Icemoon:white horses will fight with us.
imagine if they run away, then we win the war, they dare to come back?
they come back kenna stoned to death man.
They have the power and money. Singaporeans after the war will be a broken, impoverished people. How then will they be able to stand up to the elites?
Remember their elite gurkha foreign guard. They will make it clear that THEY were the ones who won the war, not the ordinary Singaporean doughboy. They'd say that they'd been forming a 'government-in-exile' all this while even as they live it up in some neutral country ready to switch allegiances at the drop of a hat once situations turn for the worse. Expect even more oppression as calls for 'reconstruction' and 'normalization' are issued by the elites after a Singaporean victory. -
SG is adopting the Arts of War from Suen Sze:
Winning a war without starting.
2.Sg has been said even baby is armed!!
3.There are two type of foreign leaders will invade SG
Either they are crazy
or they know they are going to lose their power.
Starting war to SG may help.
3.As Chinese say,''Use force to stop war'' -
i was saying sg even in peace time all go by law, if not the cleaner in my company already dead last week! and if u can read i was hoping reallu hoping for a war where i can hav a licen to kill. all i wonder is how manyrounds the army can giv me before my triggerhapiness sedateOriginally posted by reddressman:Law ? in a WAR situation?
Hello friend, In war, I heard they say, killing the enemy ...there is nothing legal or not legal about it . Its something else.
Law can comfortably exist and effective in good times.
I am not sure how Law can prevent Sadam from attacking Kuwait or its neighbors or even its own people.
Law says cannot kill.
In War, people kill people.
We need to understand the context and applicability of law.
I think only. My humble opine only. Feel free to correct. -
If Sun Tze art of war is aptly applied, what is this stalemate with Indonesia resulting in the sand ban called. What chapter?