I have dealt this with you before, yet you prefer to persist with this twisted fixation. I have started a separate thread on this if you wish to debate on this issue.Originally posted by the Bear:i treat CSJ poorly because he's a backstabbing traitor who has stabbed his way to the leadership of the party..
On the contrary, it is arrogant twirps behaving like tinpot despots going around believing every opposition member whom they disapprove to be asswipe, and being accutely critical to every minute actions as if tomorrow depends on it.
and in his little tinpot despotic way in his party, he's dragged the whole opposition back about 30 years...
The problem with self-gratifying fascist is that with the little toehold on power, they believe that they have the back of the whole world behind them.
you guys still don't get it.. 66.6% says the MIW wins.. that's DEMOCRACY!!
you want to inflict your own views on the majority?
that's what we call despotism, that's what we call dictatorship, that's what we call fascism..
the very things you accuse the MIW of.. you show that you are...
remove that beam from your own eye before you try to remove the mote from the eye of your brother..
Today marks the beginning of a declaration - as Deng Xiao Ping had done in 1978, which started China on a remarkable climb out of its communist ideology.Originally posted by the Bear:sooooo what happened today that renders everything they have done and are still doing suddenly immaterial?
Yes, it was foolishness on his part.Originally posted by kramnave:It was during the 2001 elections when Chee made the inflated allegation. We pledged US$5 Billion to Indonesia and US$1Billion to Thailand in loans during the Asian Financial crisis in 1997 to supplement IMF efforts. Japan had pledged US$5 Billion as well. It seems that that amount pledged was never loaned out as IMF funds were not exhausted.
Chee decided to inflate the amount to US$ 10-12 Billion ? He accused GCT and LKY of loaning the money to Suharto. "Where is the S$18 billion that you have lent to Suharto?"
Originally posted by Atobe:Today marks the beginning of a declaration - as Deng Xiao Ping had done in 1978, which started China on a remarkable climb out of its communist ideology.
If you do not fall into winter slumber before December set in, and remember to wake up during next Spring, you may live on to see how China will propel itself over the next 30 years.
One mistake is enough to kill politically. Thereafter he will be judged along the same lines. It doesn't help that all of his high profile actions and accusations are questionable.Originally posted by Atobe:Yes, it was foolishness on his part.
One mistake - do we need to cruxify him for his stupidity ?
Surely, we have made some less monumental mistakes at least once in our life that have riled the anger of our parents ?
He is not even related to any of us by blood ties, only sweating his own blood and inconveniencing himself and his family - and yet some have the indecent arrogance to call him an asswipe.
Originally posted by the Bear:i treat CSJ poorly because he's a backstabbing traitor who has stabbed his way to the leadership of the party..
Yes I remember how you dispelled the distorted propaganda against Dr Chee Soon Juan.... this is typical PxP tactic... attack the man when their dishonorable despotic ways are exposed...Originally posted by Atobe:I have dealt this with you before, yet you prefer to persist with this twisted fixation. I have started a separate thread on this if you wish to debate on this issue.
OMFGOriginally posted by Atobe:
Surely, you know that was before TODAY - 16 November 2007 ?
then he won't be able to pay himself and his family so much with public money.... greed... a man greed knows no limit....Originally posted by qlqq9:The old man Lee is so pro China, just wonder why he refuses to follow what china is doing that is advocating more democracy and accountability.
I hope you guys see 2 sides to the issue here. LKY is neither pro-china, nor pro-west.Originally posted by qlqq9:The old man Lee is so pro China, just wonder why he refuses to follow what china is doing that is advocating more democracy and accountability.
Besides money, power, autocracy are just too much for one to give up for the sake of democracy. We can't afford to continue to have such leaders to lead us forever in Singapore.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:then he won't be able to pay himself and his family so much with public money.... greed... a man greed knows no limit....
Unfortunately, it is wh.ores that hibernates with asswipes that will go out of their ways to destroy and pile on the efforts to discredit the opposition members - despite personal sacrifices made.Originally posted by the Bear:he has not only stabbed his way to the top, his antics and his attention wh0re ways have destroyed the credibility of most opposition members...
Did Chee volunteered to be 'the leader' ?
he claims to be 'the leader' and still wishes to be... but most know him for what he is and doesn't want to follow him... and i don't blame them..
You seem to be fixated with Chee calling himself - ''the leader'' - without even clarifying what or who he is supposed to lead ?
but by calling himself 'the leader' he has tarnished what CST and LTK worked hard to do... and by his antics, he has wasted the limited pool of attention and sympathy the people have...
unfortunately, Chee certainly could not have been more successful then you can - with your enthusiastic and feverish antics at discreditting Chee as a w.hore and as an asswipe, which make you even more likely to be an MIW mole then Chee can be to sabotage and discredit the members and efforts of the Alternative Parties.
now, anything he says is just like the boy who cried wolf...
and by extension, anything the opposition says is the same..
if he was a MIW mole, he could not have been more successful...
Judging from your nick, i'll believe youOriginally posted by YaoRockets:let me tell straight up it's just propaganda BS, you'd be a fool to believe it.
CPC will never give up its monopoly on power unless it has so.
Where were you when Deng Xiao Ping said ''there is no difference between black or white cat, as long as it catch the mouse'' ?Originally posted by YaoRockets:let me tell straight up it's just propaganda BS, you'd be a fool to believe it.
CPC will never give up its monopoly on power unless it has so.

Originally posted by elindra:It's still communist
Why is CPC still called [b]Communist Party of China ?
If they are really pushing for democracy and change, the first thing they should do is change their party name because of all the negative thoughts and events attached to their name, and since they are no longer communists, why call themselves one still?[/b]
Atobe is just such a foolOriginally posted by YaoRockets:let me tell straight up it's just propaganda BS, you'd be a fool to believe it.
CPC will never give up its monopoly on power unless it has so.
Originally posted by maurizio13:Oh dear, I thought that Gazelle has repented, to my disappointment he has not. Perhaps, he could write a book on panty sniffing.
Managed to get a copy of Gazelle caught in the act of sniffing his friend's sister's panties in the friend's house toilet.
This was what he looked like when he was sniffing the panties.
Ewwwwww......
[b]From Gazelle's original post stating the events that took place:
This is a true story..
There was once I went to a friend's place to check out his new audio system..Â…..my friend was staying in the nice apartment together with his sister (who is Singapore supermodel ) and parents, who were away on that dayÂ…Â….....when I first arrive, nobody was there accept for my friendÂ….....then at about 10.30 in the eveningÂ…......this tall, gorgeous looking girl walks inÂ…that was the first time that I see his sister in person...Â….she was stunning, wearing this worn out jeans and white T-shirt....Â…..she was very friendly and sat down with us for about 15 mins before going to her room to take her showerÂ…Â…Â….(her sister room is actually linked to the common toilet that I have been using before she came back)Â…Â…..and after about 20minsÂ…..Â….her sister open the toilet doorÂ…..and I quickly make my way to the toilet cause I need to pee badlyÂ….
When I was enjoying my peeÂ…Â…Â….I was shock to see sometime lying on the laundry basket cover Â…..it was my friend sister's used panties and bra...she just remove a few minutes agoÂ…and you can see that the stain on it is still wet....(must have forgotten that I am in the house)Â…..when I see thatÂ…....my heart start to pump in double quick timeÂ…and without much thinking........my hands went straight down to reach for itÂ…Â…..the panties that I was holding is white in color......and it comes with some yellowish stain Â…...Â…while I am holding itÂ….....my mind was trying to picture her supermodel face together with the pantiesÂ…Â….man it was really mind blowÂ…...then I start to smell itÂ…Â…..
I know it might sound sick and crazyÂ…Â…Â…but the curiosity of knowing how a supermodel pu$$y smells like is just irresistible.
Any one have the similar experience before?
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Agree with your first para. The chinese leaders do care for the welfare of the large population in China. Though the country is so many times bigger than Singapore they are willing to give pension to the people and people who are 70 and above don't need to pay when they travel on public transport. The chinese government care and put into action to take care of the people but our PAP gahmen don't take care and put into action to take money away from us.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I believe that the Chinese leaders know that they cannot behave so despotic and dishonorably like the dishonorable despots here because their country is just too big...
Maybe they have some decency in them... at least they do not take public money and pay their own family members with it and then call it "salaries".![]()
is that foto true of Gazelle?Originally posted by qlqq9:Oh dear, I thought that Gazelle has repented, to my disappointment he has not. Perhaps, he could write a book on panty sniffing.