Marbok Tan, the most error-prone minister
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... who is TES, YI, JK and SD?Originally posted by 00011000:Ever heard of the story? Son of a poor washerwoman, worked hard and made good.
The funny thing about these scholars is that they went overseas, came back with caucasian or diff. racial wives and those change personalities. From MBT, TES, YI, JK to SD and many more.
Don't get me wrong.
1) If you are of mixed marriage, so be it. I am not referring to you.
2) Those who work hard to climb from poverty, I salute you.
What I don't like about these scholar-minister are:
1) They seem to think that Singaporean must be like them, mixed beyond recognition, to be of anything. Implementing policies to reflect their personal choices.
Deep and long talks with my many friends, Malay, Chinese, Indian, tells of diff stories. Majority wants to preserve their heritages for the next generation.
2) They seem to have forgotten their struggles the moment they arrived or made good. Or worst still - forgotten their roots.
How many came out to share their stories to inspire others, unafraid that ppl will laugh at their past? How many went back to their communities, before they joined politic, to help those in the same predicaments?
I think, it is something to do with this potent mix. Poor, inferior-complex asian man and the intoxication of up-class chick or white gal that make them behave so silly, so arrogantly.
and our dear MM said ytd, a man like nelson mandela can implement policies unaffected by what he's gone through personally.
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You may have a point about those Asian Men or Women who have such inferiority complex as signified by their marriages to some foreign races looked upon as more superior.Originally posted by 00011000:Ever heard of the story? Son of a poor washerwoman, worked hard and made good.
The funny thing about these scholars is that they went overseas, came back with caucasian or diff. racial wives and those change personalities. From MBT, TES, YI, JK to SD and many more.
Don't get me wrong.
1) If you are of mixed marriage, so be it. I am not referring to you.
2) Those who work hard to climb from poverty, I salute you.
What I don't like about these scholar-minister are:
1) They seem to think that Singaporean must be like them, mixed beyond recognition, to be of anything. Implementing policies to reflect their personal choices.
Deep and long talks with my many friends, Malay, Chinese, Indian, tells of diff stories. Majority wants to preserve their heritages for the next generation.
2) They seem to have forgotten their struggles the moment they arrived or made good. Or worst still - forgotten their roots.
How many came out to share their stories to inspire others, unafraid that ppl will laugh at their past? How many went back to their communities, before they joined politic, to help those in the same predicaments?
I think, it is something to do with this potent mix. Poor, inferior-complex asian man and the intoxication of up-class chick or white gal that make them behave so silly, so arrogantly.
Only time will tell whether such a person will change attitude and loyalty to their own original race.
If not it is not quite wrong to assume the complex exists. -
Hmm, the late Tay Eng Soon, Yaacob Ibrahim, Jayakumar and Dhanabalan?Originally posted by sir_peanuts:... who is TES, YI, JK and SD?
and our dear MM said ytd, a man like nelson mandela can implement policies unaffected by what he's gone through personally.
what about his own men?
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Ya.. that's what i have heard also .. is it true that he is related to LKY ?Originally posted by kaykwang:i totally agree that this shortie is incompetent. but he got support from KY, who pushed his backside up all the way -
No flat = No wedding
Newly-weds who find it hard to get a flat amid buoyant property market are putting off their weddings
Straits Times, The (Singapore)
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November 17, 2007
Author: Tan Hui Yee, Housing Correspondent
AS PROPERTY prices rise, some newly-wed couples are postponing their traditional ceremonies while they wait for a new Housing Board flat.
Many have been priced out of the resale market while others want to buy a new home, which means joining the hordes trying their luck at ballots in HDB sales exercises.
It is leaving couples in a dilemma. While they have registered their marriages officially, they are reluctant to hold the customary ceremony that legitimises the union in the eyes of the community, until they have a home to call their own.
Members of Parliament say they are getting more appeals from distressed couples.
Aljunied GRC MP Cynthia Phua, who raised a question on the availability of flats in Parliament this week, told The Straits Times that one or two such couples bring up the problem at her Meet-the-People session every week.
Although technically married, many of them live apart, in their family homes, while waiting to get a flat together.
Madam Phua said: 'For us Asians, once you hold back your customary wedding, you can't live together, and you can't even have babies.'
Deliveryman Ang Kah Liong, 34, has unsuccessfully applied for a new flat 10 times since he registered his marriage with his girlfriend three years ago. The couple - who earn $3,000 a month - live with Mr Ang's parents and three elder brothers in their family's two-bedroom flat.
They were determined to wait until they had a flat of their own before holding the customary ceremony but family pressure finally prompted them to hold it in September.
'I had no choice,' said Mr Ang. 'I could not wait anymore.'
People like Mr Ang are being caught in a supply-demand crunch.
The buoyant resale market, which has seen prices grow by 11 per cent in the first nine months of this year, is fuelling a demand for new HDB flats.
In the July to September quarter, five-room flats in Queenstown - a coveted district - sold for a median sum of $110,000 above their valuations. This means a buyer had to pay at least $110,000 in cash as that amount cannot be covered with a home loan.
So young couples who cannot afford such resale prices - even with government grants that can go up to $40,000 - are turning to new HDB flats.
MPs told The Straits Times that many seek help to get a new flat near their parents' homes but this can be difficult as these are usually in older estates where few new flats are being built.
Jalan Besar MP Lily Neo said: 'Many couples want to live near their parents in the Central Business District, but as you know, there aren't many flats there.'
They stand a better chance of getting a flat if they are willing to consider other locations, said Dr Neo.
Application figures for recent HDB sales exercises show how competitive the flat race can get.
The HDB received almost 8,000 applications for just 400 flats in Telok Blangah recently, and more than 1,600 applications for 516 homes in Punggol.
The HDB is pumping up the supply of new homes to meet demand. A further 3,600 flats are expected to be offered under the build-to-order system from now until March.
However, the Government has stated that it cannot meet all the demand for new HDB flats as that would risk creating an oversupply in the future.
Meanwhile 28-year-old secretary Koh Bee Leng and fiance Julius Lim, 30, who hope to marry next year, carry on with their house-hunting.
The couple have set their eyes on four-room flats in a mature estate such as Ang Mo Kio and Toa Payoh, but have had no luck in two sales exercises this year.
Ms Koh said: 'Everything is uncertain now, because of the issue of the availability of the flat. That's delaying our plan to get married.'
ADDITIONAL REPORTING BY HO AI LI
i hate Marbok tan as much as many of you.(hatest of all PA* minister).
but the reality is there are heaps of houses in jurong west area that there arent much taker.
why complain when you cant get a houses of your favourite area like telok blangah, queenstown. these are establish estate and know for high prices. if cant afford it, look elsewhere such as jurong west.
the comon practices oversea when u r price out of a property is go rental. but it seem rental is for foreigners only here in singapore.
Why put a marriage on hold because of property?
How about ask HDB to build few blocks near IR to satisfy the lust of those high end HDB owners? -
marbok tan is indeed the worse, second worse is WKS.
my impression of Marbok tan:
1 the does not care about grassroot, he always want to look at the bigger picture, but often screw it.
2, when he screw up something, he always tried various means of presentation to cover it up and make them sound like success.
3. he bootlick the PA* to climb his way up the party ladder. The party need some diehard party members to carry out dirty jobs for them without himself knowing it. to me he sound like a Goring in the Nazi party.
4. he talk without thinking. he should keep quiet instead of making singapore a mockery of neighbouring country of 2010 world cup goals.
my impression of WKS.
1. he dont do much. that why we seldom find fault with him.
2. the police carry machine guns policing the roads in shenton way, orchard rds are a mockery of his so call brilliant idea.
the common of the 2 are they often make attacking comments on the opposition, but are often short of convincing. definitely not the class of SS fuhrer maybe adjutant like fegelein. -
Ever heard of the story? Son of a poor washerwoman, worked hard and made good.
The funny thing about these scholars is that they went overseas, came back with caucasian or diff. racial wives and those change personalities. From MBT, TES, YI, JK to SD and many more.
Don't get me wrong.
1) If you are of mixed marriage, so be it. I am not referring to you.
2) Those who work hard to climb from poverty, I salute you.
What I don't like about these scholar-minister are:
1) They seem to think that Singaporean must be like them, mixed beyond recognition, to be of anything. Implementing policies to reflect their personal choices.
Deep and long talks with my many friends, Malay, Chinese, Indian, tells of diff stories. Majority wants to preserve their heritages for the next generation.
2) They seem to have forgotten their struggles the moment they arrived or made good. Or worst still - forgotten their roots.
How many came out to share their stories to inspire others, unafraid that ppl will laugh at their past? How many went back to their communities, before they joined politic, to help those in the same predicaments?
I think, it is something to do with this potent mix. Poor, inferior-complex asian man and the intoxication of up-class chick or white gal that make them behave so silly, so arrogantly.
i dont think their arrogance are cause by the color of their wives. it is the power that amasses by the PAP all these years. that made them feel invincible.
the only time they will feel threaten in singapore is during the 2 week election.
our mainstream media has fail singaporeans to act as a watchdog by providing alternative opinion counter those of PAP. our mainstream media also kill off singapore interest in politics:
1. no debate program on politics( unbias)
2. no publish columns that question the authority and policy od the PAP.
OMG.. lotsa more, can talk until morning. -
legend has it that he was the one who introduced ho ching to LHL, that's why.Originally posted by happieman:Ya.. that's what i have heard also .. is it true that he is related to LKY ? -
Can you just stop you and your Mah Bow Tan thing, you have discussed this in the bus forum for like a lot of times. I suggest that you come back to Singapore, go to a Tampines GRC meet the people session and iron things up yourself with him since you are that unhappy with he and his transport policies. One thing I don't understand is, you are not affected by this currently, and even if you are in Singapore right now, you won't be that affected, but you sound as if you are seriously affected by in right now, do you just have nothing else regarding Singapore politics besides Mah Bow Tan.Originally posted by iveco:What it should have been in 1999:
SMRT allowed to keep subway monopoly, Tibs left untouched.
No NW for NE swap as we know it, instead BPJ return to SBS while HGN comes under Tibs.
If a Singaporean can live with it everyday, why can't you as a Singaporean student studying abroad do the the same.
This aside, I still think that if he had not swapped NE with NW areas, things would be worse as the population in the NE is higher than that in the NW, and that SBS Transit is doing a better job at NEL than SMRT does for NSL. -
It was mentioned before by Fudgester in the past that even a B-grade economics student could tell that subways were more suited to be natural monopolies.
Also, as a supporter of Tibs Holdings, it pains me to see its directors quitting SMRT Corp one by one and the standards of the bus ops falling rapidly.
This has only made me even more of a doubledeck worshipper after seeing how SBS(T) capitalised on its opponent's weaknesses. -
Have you ever been to Tampines GRC and dialoged with the bleedy marbok? I would be very interested to know if he can give you a concrete answer instead of hamming and hawing.Originally posted by Scania:Can you just stop you and your Mah Bow Tan thing, you have discussed this in the bus forum for like a lot of times. I suggest that you come back to Singapore, go to a Tampines GRC meet the people session and iron things up yourself with him since you are that unhappy with he and his transport policies. One thing I don't understand is, you are not affected by this currently, and even if you are in Singapore right now, you won't be that affected, but you sound as if you are seriously affected by in right now, do you just have nothing else regarding Singapore politics besides Mah Bow Tan.
If a Singaporean can live with it everyday, why can't you as a Singaporean student studying abroad do the the same.
This aside, I still think that if he had not swapped NE with NW areas, things would be worse as the population in the NE is higher than that in the NW, and that SBS Transit is doing a better job at NEL than SMRT does for NSL. -
Can Jeffo answer this question properly? Don't get pwned, OK.Originally posted by adetet:Have you ever been to Tampines GRC and dialoged with the bleedy marbok? I would be very interested to know if he can give you a concrete answer instead of hamming and hawing.
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Mr Seetoh, the merger is one issue, the exchange is another, why must you always purposely mix the two up just to support your initial argument of LTA's/PTC decision the two terriorties. Admittedly, although Mah Bow Tan did play a part by sanctioning the exchange, he most probably wasn't the person or part of the group who proposed the exchange.Originally posted by iveco:It was mentioned before by Fudgester in the past that even a B-grade economics student could tell that subways were more suited to be natural monopolies.
Also, as a supporter of Tibs Holdings, it pains me to see its directors quitting SMRT Corp one by one and the standards of the bus ops falling rapidly.
This has only made me even more of a doubledeck worshipper after seeing how SBS(T) capitalised on its opponent's weaknesses. -
Any BPJian can tell that SBS did a better job managing the NW sectors. Unfortunately, SDP couldn't stage an upset in the last GE like they did in BGB 15 years ago. Ling How Doong unseated Dr Seet Ai Mee because the constituents weren't happy with the transport links in their town.
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What's wrong with inter-racial marriage?
What's more, an international outlook is something we don't have a choice in. -
i thought seet ai mee was unseated cos she use tissue to wipe hands after shaking hand with fishmonger and butcher.Originally posted by iveco:Any BPJian can tell that SBS did a better job managing the NW sectors. Unfortunately, SDP couldn't stage an upset in the last GE like they did in BGB 15 years ago. Ling How Doong unseated Dr Seet Ai Mee because the constituents weren't happy with the transport links in their town. -
There you go again, mixing up the exchange and the merger. The current sitation in BPJ is the work of SMRT buses, not directly because of the exchange. If you are talking about the exchange, then ceteris paribus (also assume that TIBS is still around), you would most probably see a better trnsport system in the NW. I aappreciate if you stop smoking around here by purposely mixing the two issues up so as to support your initial stand of "Mah Bow Tan wrong because he exchanged the two territories".Originally posted by iveco:Any BPJian can tell that SBS did a better job managing the NW sectors. Unfortunately, SDP couldn't stage an upset in the last GE like they did in BGB 15 years ago. Ling How Doong unseated Dr Seet Ai Mee because the constituents weren't happy with the transport links in their town. -
Well, the merger and exchange would not have gone ahead at all if SBS(T) wasn't awarded NEL at all.Originally posted by Scania:There you go again, mixing up the exchange and the merger. The current sitation in BPJ is the work of SMRT buses, not directly because of the exchange. If you are talking about the exchange, then ceteris paribus (also assume that TIBS is still around), you would most probably see a better trnsport system in the NW. I aappreciate if you stop smoking around here by purposely mixing the two issues up so as to support your initial stand of "Mah Bow Tan wrong because he exchanged the two territories". -
Do you think they just anyhow tikam tikam which company? They probably did read the proposals submitted by the contenders before choosing which company to operate NEL. Also, Delgro had already a plan to further diversify their business, so how can it be a wrong move if a company has a plan to diversify its business and eventually got awarded as the operator of NEL.Originally posted by iveco:Well, the merger and exchange would not have gone ahead at all if SBS(T) wasn't awarded NEL at all.
The way you post sound as if Singapore is controlled by a Singapore Sumpreme Soviet, probably you should read less of Harry Potter to stop fantasizing. -
Well, John Howard seems to be pitching that Kevin Rudd is the chief of the Supreme Soviet, to some extent.Originally posted by Scania:The way you post sound as if Singapore is controlled by a Singapore Sumpreme Soviet, probably you should read less of Harry Potter to stop fantasizing.
However, Rudd makes a better prime minister than LHL. The latter doesn't believe in liberal democracy at all. -
mabok toungue shld replace be replace int he unholy trinity of the father, the son and the holy goh
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Yeah, get rid of the unholy trinity and merge with Canberra.Originally posted by elias1987:mabok toungue shld replace be replace int he unholy trinity of the father, the son and the holy goh -
you only need to look at goal 2010.
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Should rename it as Goal 2100.Originally posted by stellazio:you only need to look at goal 2010. 
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Welcome to South East Asia, it seems that you do not know how to use this function: governance in SEA.Originally posted by iveco:Well, John Howard seems to be pitching that Kevin Rudd is the chief of the Supreme Soviet, to some extent.
However, Rudd makes a better prime minister than LHL. The latter doesn't believe in liberal democracy at all.
If you need help: Choose between democracy and economic growth. If you face further problems, please choose this option: emigrate.