Marbok Tan, the most error-prone minister
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Iveco is right - Rudd believes in using 4 million talents instead of giving too much weightage to one super-talent like MM Lee or LHL. Singapore economy will go down very fast the moment the hype about IR and the world economic recovery loses steam. Why? Because for years as witnessed over the last three recessions there is too much emphasis on promoting only their own self-glorifying talents and not recognising their own people's talents in every field.Originally posted by Scania:Welcome to South East Asia, it seems that you do not know how to use this function: governance in SEA.
If you need help: Choose between democracy and economic growth. If you face further problems, please choose this option: emigrate.
So no matter how hard their ministers have tried the economic restructuring did not happen. They alone the few self-possessed super-talents can never hope to equal 4 million half-past-six smaller talents put to good application. -
We shall see whether Rudd would help state governments, city councils and shires in Australia which are currently facing problems, or would it be NATO.Originally posted by robertteh:Iveco is right - Rudd believes in using 4 million talents instead of giving too much weightage to one super-talent like MM Lee or LHL. Singapore economy will go down very fast the moment the hype about IR and the world economic recovery loses steam. Why? Because for years as witnessed over the last three recessions there is too much emphasis on promoting only their own self-glorifying talents and not recognising their own people's talents in every field.
So no matter how hard their ministers have tried the economic restructuring did not happen. They alone the few self-possessed super-talents can never hope to equal 4 million half-past-six smaller talents put to good application. -
The Taiwanese are trying so hard to maintain their sovereignty and you making such a bad remark here.Originally posted by iveco:Yeah, get rid of the unholy trinity and merge with Canberra.
Why do you make such a distasteful remark about selling out your country's sovereignty to another? It does matter if your loyalty doesn't lie with Singapore, but I don't see the need in making treacherous remarks like this. At least Singapore is still luckier than Myanmar. Do you think you even have the chance to go to Australia if we are governed something like Myanmar of today? Think!
If you are not happy with Singapore. One word.
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Anyone ever gone on a joyride on the Circle Route? I think this particular service is an embodiment of cooperation. All transit operators are contributors to this route.
Main depots: Fremantle (Southern Coast), Canning Vale (Swan) and Malaga (Path).
If our bus operators are asked to cooperate on a similar scale, it will be miraculous if they manage to work something out.
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Taiwan ceased to be part of China in 1895.Originally posted by Zilchster:The Taiwanese are trying so hard to maintain their sovereignty and you making such a bad remark here. -
Wrong, if not happy, then do what you can to change it. That the right of every Singaporean and what the election is for.Originally posted by Zilchster:If you are not happy with Singapore. One word.
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Mr Seetoh, people there talking about how Taiwanese are trying to keep their sovereignty, you down here talking history of China. Like duck talking to chicken.Originally posted by iveco:Taiwan ceased to be part of China in 1895. -
The more sg'lians leave,Originally posted by Zilchster:...
If you are not happy with Singapore. One word.
E-m-i-g-r-a-t-e
the more open seats for occupation by incoming.
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My implication is that China has no more claim over Taiwan since losing the island after the first Sino-japanese war in 1895.Originally posted by Scania:Mr Seetoh, people there talking about how Taiwanese are trying to keep their sovereignty, you down here talking history of China. Like duck talking to chicken. -
There you go again......smoking. The thing is that most of the world recongises the Chinese government which adminsters 90% of the total population and area of China. How can certain pro-independence Taiwanese not feel threatened and would not fight for their sovereignty.Originally posted by iveco:My implication is that China has no more claim over Taiwan since losing the island after the first Sino-japanese war in 1895.
Notice how we made a segue?
From Singapore, we talked all the way to Australia before coming to Taiwan. Point is, you should respect Singapore's sovereginty, instead of making remarks like chasing the current governemt out of parliement and merging with Australia.
Once again, if you are unhappy and cannot tahan the current situation of democracy here in Singapore, emigrate. Get your Aussie PR or citizenship and downgrade your Singapore pink IC to a blue IC. -
I know you are down-under, but certainly not 6 feet down under. In case you don't know what is going on, let me remind you that Mainland China views Taiwan as a separatist/breakaway province awaiting unification. Due to a one-China policy advocated by Mainland China, Taiwan is not part of the UN or the WHO, and isn't recognised by many countries as a country, except for 20 odd number of countries.Originally posted by iveco:My implication is that China has no more claim over Taiwan since losing the island after the first Sino-japanese war in 1895.
However, the DPP of Taiwan or the Pan Green Coalition are striving to push for formal independence for Taiwan.
At best your sentence expresses what you think. And if you let any Mainland Chinese see what you had written, good luck to you. -
My dream is to see China broken up like the former USSR. The member states of the old USSR are much better off these days. Some of them are even in the EU.Originally posted by Zilchster:I know you are down-under, but certainly not 6 feet down under. In case you don't know what is going on, let me remind you that Mainland China views Taiwan as a separatist/breakaway province awaiting unification. Due to a one-China policy advocated by Mainland China, Taiwan is not part of the UN or the WHO, and isn't recognised by many countries as a country, except for 20 odd number of countries.
However, the DPP of Taiwan or the Pan Green Coalition are striving to push for formal independence for Taiwan.
At best your sentence expresses what you think. And if you let any Mainland Chinese see what you had written, good luck to you.
At the end of the day, liberal democracy will overcome all the odds and emerge victorious like how Rudd trumped Howard last night for the stewardship of Australia. -
China was divided into many small states at one time or another. These states fought many wars among themselves and people suffered.Originally posted by iveco:My dream is to see China broken up like the former USSR. The member states of the old USSR are much better off these days. Some of them are even in the EU.
At the end of the day, liberal democracy will overcome all the odds and emerge victorious like how Rudd trumped Howard last night for the stewardship of Australia.
Many foreign countries tried to invade China. Through nationalism or patriotism somehow China held its own till today and Chinese were less bullied due partly to this fact. So do we need a strong and peaceful China or one which is divided making easy meats for the imperialist west and overly ambitious Japan. -
Always remember the Fourth of June.Originally posted by robertteh:China was divided into many small states at one time or another. These states fought many wars among themselves and people suffered.
Many foreign countries tried to invade China. Through nationalism or patriotism somehow China held its own till today and Chinese were less bullied due partly to this fact. So do we need a strong and peaceful China or one which is divided making easy meats for the imperialist west and overly ambitious Japan.
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Democracy and democratic instutionalized processes will be the solutions. Processes well established and institutionalised will ensure accountability fairness and flexibility and will help to stabilize China one day or else there will be more 4ths of June and it will one day be broken up like the former Russia.Originally posted by iveco:Always remember the Fourth of June.
In any countries which claim to be governed with leadership or Asian values or some pseudo-democracy, in names leadership or talents may sound rather good but actually such power-centred systems unable to decentralise to be governed with due accountable processes for the greatest benefits of all will only end up benefiting a few rich and the elites and taking shortcuts of all kind to keep themselves in power.
Leadership and talent or meritocracy system of ours currently seem fine because it is underpinned by taxing and profiteering and using monies of people to look good. Essentially it lacks definition, accountability and the government will have to use sneaky power game to get rid of oppositions or alternative to put up a superficial success story.
Finally there would be many 4ths of June and the countries will need to be broken up. -
Singaporeans who are not happy with Singapore today can do other things to help change the situation beside emigration. Please do not be misguided by people who asked you to emigrate which sounding as if the country only belongs to their.Originally posted by Zilchster:If you are not happy with Singapore. One word.
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Ah, what about Chechnya, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and the territorial conflicts of Kazakhstan and Uzebekistan, you just looked at the "good" side and not the "bad".Originally posted by iveco:My dream is to see China broken up like the former USSR. The member states of the old USSR are much better off these days. Some of them are even in the EU.
At the end of the day, liberal democracy will overcome all the odds and emerge victorious like how Rudd trumped Howard last night for the stewardship of Australia. -
The Chechens should just have been expelled from the Federation just like how Tunku Abdul Rahman did to us. Don't know why Moscow still wants to act like Tsarists.Originally posted by Scania:Ah, what about Chechnya, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, and the territorial conflicts of Kazakhstan and Uzebekistan, you just looked at the "good" side and not the "bad". -
Why do you love smoking? People talk about the bad points of splitting USSR, you talk about how to solve it using your own ways.Originally posted by iveco:The Chechens should just have been expelled from the Federation just like how Tunku Abdul Rahman did to us. Don't know why Moscow still wants to act like Tsarists. -
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How on Earth does the post-war Soviet Union got to do with Marbok Tan? Get back into the topic and stop aruging like 12-year old intellectuals! -
Yeah, where's Atobe when we need him.Originally posted by Yaimster:.... HEY GUYS ....
How on Earth does the post-war Soviet Union got to do with Marbok Tan? Get back into the topic and stop aruging like 12-year old intellectuals! -
And who was the person who first mentioned USSR?Originally posted by iveco:Yeah, where's Atobe when we need him.