China sees itself moving in Singapore's direction
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BEIJING: China is now moving quickly to adapt to a fast changing world, and its new generation of leaders are determined to sustain the nation's growth for a long time, said Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew during his 27th visit to China.
Speaking to the Singapore media at the conclusion of his official visit, Mr Lee noted that the Chinese are studying Singapore very seriously - including how its civil servants are trained and how the members of Parliament conduct Meet The People sessions.
Through these efforts, he said, the Chinese are adapting and adopting fast because they see themselves moving in Singapore's direction.
After a one-hour meeting with Xi Jinping, who was appointed to the Politburo Standing Committee, Mr Lee found the new leader a thoughtful man who has been through many trials and tribulation.
"I would put him in the Nelson Mandela's class of persons. A person with enormous emotional stability who does not allow his personal misfortunes or sufferings affect his judgement. In other words, he is impressive," he said.
The minister mentor said he has extended an invitation on behalf of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong for Mr Xi to visit Singapore.
Senior Chinese leaders told Mr Lee that bilateral relations are now poised to move to the next level.
A proposed eco-city project is also expected to be finalised when Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao visits Singapore.
Chinese President Hu Jintao told the minister mentor that the project will be a timely collaboration as the world is turning their attention to the environment.
Noting Mr Lee's efforts and devotion in building bilateral ties, which started even before formal relations were established 17 years ago, Mr Hu said both countries should promote the relationship to new heights.
Sharing the same sentiments, Chinese State Councillor Tang Jiaxuan told Mr Lee that bilateral ties have entered a track of rapid, steady and mature development, and both sides should make use of complementary advantages to promote and deepen cooperation.
Sharing his observation of the different generations of Chinese leaders, Mr Lee noted a steady development in the leadership renewal process.
"I would say that they are beginning to regularise and institutionalise the way leaders are selected or voted into office by the elite at the top, the top crowders. So I expect at the next People's Congress, there will be more consultation, more expression of views, drawing of opinions, and then a final selection with a vote of the key person(s) involved, which created a much more stable position," he said.
"The senior leaders are prepared to step aside for younger leaders to come forward, so that there's a steady stream of able, committed people who will take on the leadership mantel in the years ahead," Minister for Defence Teo Chee Hean said of the Chinese leaders.
Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Lim Swee Say added that the Chinese leaders are prepared to go above and beyond to realise their long term goals, even if it means treading in uncharted waters.
On China-US relations, Mr Lee said that the biggest problem between the two countries is Taiwan, and the challenge is for the US to make sure that nothing foolish happens before the Taiwan elections in March, or there could be an unpredictable outcome. - CNA/ac -
SINGAPORE: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao arrived in Singapore on Sunday for a four-day official visit.
This is his first official visit here as premier.
Mr Wen and his delegation were welcomed at the airport by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.
The Chinese delegation includes Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi, Finance Minister Xie Xuren, Construction Minister Wang Guangtao, State Council Policy Research Department Director-General Wei Liqun and Vice Chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission Chen Deming.
Premier Wen's trip coincides with the 11th ASEAN Plus Three Summit and the 3rd East Asia Summit, which will be held in Singapore next week.
Mr Wen and Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong will be signing the Eco-City Framework Agreement on Sunday evening.
The Chinese premier will also officiate at the launch of the Singapore-China Foundation.
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LHL made a huge mistake by visiting Taiwan just months before he took over the office as PM and that really pissed China off. It does looks like the relationship is back rocking and rolling again.
Father and son "tag team"
Good news for Singapore -
Ah lah - the father and son again! Singapore does not belong to the father and son. Follow what - moving in the Singapore's direction according to the ways of the father and son. Bad choice, China.
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Think China planning on dynastic sucession, next we will Hu Jing Tao's and Wen Jia Bao's children running Chinese government corporations. We will see Hu Jing Tao and Wen Jia Bao daughter-in-laws running government linked investment companies.Originally posted by qlqq9:Ah lah - the father and son again! Singapore does not belong to the father and son. Follow what - moving in the Singapore's direction according to the ways of the father and son. Bad choice, China.
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Dun like that lah. Gazelle is promoting the Lee father and son. Give him some face lah cos he has none.Originally posted by maurizio13:Think China planning on dynastic sucession, next we will Hu Jing Tao's and Wen Jia Bao's children running Chinese government corporations. We will see Hu Jing Tao and Wen Jia Bao daughter-in-laws running government linked investment companies. 
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doubt it will be. Communists are rather sensitive and I believe they will not practise the Lee family way.Originally posted by maurizio13:Think China planning on dynastic sucession, next we will Hu Jing Tao's and Wen Jia Bao's children running Chinese government corporations. We will see Hu Jing Tao and Wen Jia Bao daughter-in-laws running government linked investment companies. -
"I would put him in the Nelson Mandela's class of persons. A person with enormous emotional stability who does not allow his personal misfortunes or sufferings affect his judgement. In other words, he is impressive," he said.
Carry ball already ah?
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S'pore-China ties set to soar with Eco-City Framework Agreement
SINGAPORE: Singapore and China have signed the highly anticipated Eco-City Framework Agreement.
The deal will see a new environmentally friendly development built in the Chinese city of Tianjin.
It is the most significant collaboration between Singapore and China since the Suzhou Industrial Park.
With the new eco-city, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said the two countries are set to deepen cooperation and bring bilateral ties to even greater heights.
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao arrived in Singapore on Sunday afternoon – his first official visit here as premier – and was received by PM Lee at the airport.
After a ceremonial welcome, both leaders got straight to work.
They signed the Eco-City Framework Agreement which will kick-start the development of the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-City Project.
The vision is for the area to become a model for sustainable development – one which is socially harmonious, environmentally friendly and resource-efficient.
The leaders also hope to take the relationship to the next level.
Mr Wen said: "In conducting cooperation, we must be result-oriented and innovative. Today we signed the agreement on the development of an eco-city in China. This is yet another cooperation effort by China and Singapore after the Suzhou Industrial Park.
"The Suzhou Industrial Park has become a crystallisation of the friendship between our two countries. And with the eco-city to be built in Tianjin, it will become another highlight in our relations."
Mr Lee said: "Our relations are good because the foundations of the relations are based on compatible strategic views of the way Asia is developing, of China's development, and peaceful emergence into the world order. Therefore, we believe that there's room for us to work together for mutual benefit and on the basis of equality and mutual respect."
A supplementary agreement was also signed between National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan and Chinese Construction Minister Wang Guangtao to guide the implementation details of the Eco-City Project, which will be led by Keppel Corporation.
Mr Lee said the new project will not be just another commercial venture, but one that reflects Singapore's commitment to share with China its developmental experience.
The leaders also launched the Singapore-China Foundation (SCF), which provides scholarship and exchange programmes for government officials.
Earlier, the leaders met for about an hour to discuss wide-ranging issues that include the Singapore-China Free Trade Agreement and Myanmar.
Premier Wen said China supports UN efforts to broker peace in Myanmar and hope the process of reconciliation can be restored.
In the days ahead, the Chinese premier will give a lecture at the National University of Singapore and attend the East Asia Summit.
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Old fox leh.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Carry ball already ah?
Still at his best lau lee.
Dunno learn how many years liaoz. -
u mean Sg is moving to China direction?
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China sees itself moving in Singapore's direction ?
Either old Lee must be so high up in his pedestal that he cannot see his host blowing hot air up his ass for a purpose, or Gazelle is attempting to blow hot air to raise a mountain of crap from a mole-hill ?
LKY must have been travelling for so long - {a week ago in India, this week in China} - did he miss the news about China's White Paper for a more inclusive political system ?
Surely LKY must have missed the part about China's unwillingness to follow a Westerminister style adverserial political system, nor Singapore's monopolistic ONE Party system - but instead has preferred a system that includes all political parties {including the Kuomintang} to participate in the governing of the country - all under the leadership of the present Communist Party of China.
For once, Lim Swee Say is able to say something sensible -
''Minister in the Prime Minister's Office Lim Swee Say added that the Chinese leaders are prepared to go above and beyond to realise their long term goals, even if it means treading in uncharted waters. ''
China's move to reform its political system is surely bringing them into uncharted waters - and they are surely prepared to go above and beyond to realise their LONG TERM GOALS.
In his old age, and after so much accolade showered onto him, is MM LKY getting too conceited to be taking himself so seriously and will believe that China will be moving in Singapore's direction - politically, ideologically, socially ?
What is the basis with his statement being quoted as -
''Through these efforts, he said, the Chinese are adapting and adopting fast because they see themselves moving in Singapore's direction.''
Yes, the Chinese are adapting and adopting fast, and see themselves moving in Singapore's direction - ONLY - insofar as economics is concerned.
In less then 30 years, China's Reserves has surpassed that of Singapore's Reserves - which began when Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia in 1965.
China certainly is learning fast, adopting and adapting what Singapore has done, and attempting to make a better model for themselves - and surely China has learnt from mistakes made by Singapore's Temasek.
Will Singapore benefit from the proposed eco-city project ?
Judging by the dumb politicians attempting to play entrepreneur with public funds, we may see yet another Suzho disaster.
This project is nothing more then another exercise at ''transfer of technology'' - that will allow China's brilliant force of engineers to make a quantum leap in absorbing knowledge and experience from Singapore based companies - without the need to spend a yuan, nor an iota of time.
China has absorbed all the technologies that it can get from all the foreign manufacturing facilities that offers critical high-tech products. From a list, these include some of the following : Acer, Airbus, A.T & T, BELL, Caltex, CAT, Chrysler, Daimler, Glaxo, Hewlett-Packard, Honda, IBM, ITT, Lucent Tech, Matsush.ita, Mitsubishi, Motorola, Nokia, Omron, Phillips, Samsung, Sanyo, Shell, Siemens, Sony-Ericsson, Toshiba, Toyota, Unisys.
The experience, technology and knowledge gained will be helping China's effort to put their man on the moon, as matters stand - they have just sent an observatory satellite to study the landscape of the moon.
China will go on its own direction, and it is sheer vanity to believe that it is moving in Singapore's direction.
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I urge China to consider the risks involved. Think about Suharto, Thaksin, Khin Nyunt and recently Charles Prince? They all fell from grace.
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In the first world democracy they are regarded as pariah dogs... and so they have to go ass-sniffing bigger fellow pariah despotic dictators that can only make their citizens coolies of the first world democracies....Originally posted by Gazelle:LHL made a huge mistake by visiting Taiwan just months before he took over the office as PM and that really pissed China off. It does looks like the relationship is back rocking and rolling again.
Father and son "tag team"
Good news for Singapore -
"tag pack" is a more appropriate term because dogs move in packs....
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I guess the "advice" they give will be how to take as much money from their citizens, lose it to foreigners by putting their relatives in charge of the money... and telling them how to fool their people by saying things like "we will have to raise GST to help the poor and then promptly lower the tax on corporate profits"
...and they will tell the fellow despotic dictators when they come to Singapore, to eat mee siam but to make sure that they order mee siam mai hum... -
i think LKY also buay song they copy us build the ferris wheel.. so he say they follow us MUAHAHA.. hua zhong you hua.. i like..
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who wouldn't for the big fat salary that our leaders are drawing?
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i dun really think china is following singapore, they dun need to actually, they'll propel themselves and will soon be out of sight..
LKY must be really high if he thinks China is actually 'studying' singapore.. and is somewhat dependable on it.. its more of a fact that it actually sees singapore as a financial center rival to its administrative city - HongKong , and price for guessing who the dragon will side...
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There is a reason why China send their Finance Minister, Construction Minister, State Council Policy Research Department Director, Vice Chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission to Singapore.Originally posted by 4getmenot:i dun really think china is following singapore, they dun need to actually, they'll propel themselves and will soon be out of sight..
LKY must be really high if he thinks China is actually 'studying' singapore.. and is somewhat dependable on it.. its more of a fact that it actually sees singapore as a financial center rival to its administrative city - HongKong , and price for guessing who the dragon will side...
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
How do you know if the 'Great Singapore Sale' is not on their agenda - at least as a side trip from official duties ?
There is a reason why China send their Finance Minister, Construction Minister, State Council Policy Research Department Director, Vice Chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission to Singapore.
You think they are here for singapore sale?
During one of his earlier visits to Singapore, PM Wen Jia Pau made a small shopping trip - do you think he was contributing to Singapore's commercial well being, or was he finding out for himself the weak pulse of Singapore's commercial scene ?
Every trip made by the Chinese officials has a few items on their agenda that they hope will help China to learn from mistakes made in Singapore.
They do not pretend to be First World Leaders of a powerful nation with advise to give - despite their 1000 years of history - but instead will humbly observe, listen and aborb everything and anything, all the goodness and the ugliness.
Do you think Singapore has nothing to learn from China ?
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or do they simply means more PRC is moving in towards Singapore direction...damn i hate prc
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Our grand parents were both PRC before hence I dont see why we should hate them?Originally posted by xXhuskyXx:or do they simply means more PRC is moving in towards Singapore direction...damn i hate prc -
LOL!!!!!Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I guess the "advice" they give will be how to take as much money from their citizens, lose it to foreigners by putting their relatives in charge of the money... and telling them how to fool their people by saying things like "we will have to raise GST to help the poor and then promptly lower the tax on corporate profits"
...and they will tell the fellow despotic dictators when they come to Singapore, to eat mee siam but to make sure that they order mee siam mai hum... -
Lee Kuan Yew boot-lick mainland China,his son LHL boot-lick his father,Goh Chok Tong boot-lick LHL and his father.In Singapore politics,it is all about boot-licking and do nothing!!!