Latest Catch for Singapore
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australians are the worst polluters in the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7092989.stm
Australians named worst emitters
Power station chimney (Image: PA)
The inventory lists CO2 emissions from more than 4,000 companies
A study of the world's power stations has shown the extent to which developed countries produce more carbon dioxide per head than emerging economies.
Australians were found to be the world's worst polluters per capita, producing five times as much CO2 from generating power as China.
The US came second with eight tonnes of the greenhouse gas per head - 16 times more than that produced by India.
The US also produced the most CO2 in total, followed by China.
The Carbon Monitoring for Action (Carma) website is the first global inventory of emissions and looks at 50,000 power stations.
Its data was compiled by the Center for Global Development, a US think-tank.
Least efficient stations
Carma points out that while US power plants emit the most CO2, releasing 2.5bn tonnes into the atmosphere each year, Australian power stations are the least efficient on a per capita basis, with emissions of 10 tonnes, compared with the US's 8.2 tonnes.
TOP 10 EMITTERS
National power sector emissions (in tonnes of CO2):
US - 2,530 million
China - 2,430 million
Russia - 600 million
India - 529 million
Japan - 363 million
Germany - 323 million
Australia - 205 million
South Africa - 201 million
UK - 192 million
South Korea - 168 million
(Source: Carma/CGD)
China's power sector emits the second-highest total amount of carbon dioxide, pumping 2.4bn tonnes of the gas into the atmosphere annually.
However, its emissions are only one fifth of Australia's when measured on a per capita basis.
The UK's 192 million tonnes make it the ninth highest emitter, with per capita CO2 emissions of 3.2 tonnes.
The nation's largest power station, the coal-fired Drax plant, is deemed to be the 23rd most polluting power station in the world.
Powering change
Kevin Ummel, a research assistant at the Center for Global Development, hoped the online inventory would help the push towards a low carbon future.
"The experience of people in the environmental field has been that supplying the public and markets with information that they did not have has often led to improvements in environmental quality," he told BBC News.
CO2 EMISSIONS PER CAPITA
Electricity pylons (Image
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Australia - 10.0 tonnes
US - 8.2 tonnes
UK - 3.2 tonnes
China - 1.8 tonnes
India - 0.5 tonnes
(Source: Carma/CGD)
"There is no reason why this could not happen for carbon emissions."
He said that the data for power stations in the US, Canada, Europe and India came from official, verified reports.
For the power plants that did not have robust reports, Mr Ummel said a model was used to calculate the volume of emissions.
The figure is derived by taking factors such as fuel type, size, age and various other technical specifications in account.
"It turns out that if you have this information then you can predict emissions from the plants with a high degree of certainty," he said.
"Carma is built from a massive database provided by private sector (organisations). It includes every type of fuel and it includes power plants of almost any size.
"Not only do we have the massive plants, like Drax in the UK, but everything down to the solar panels on the local high school.
"We feel quite confident that no-one else has information in such detail."
The philosophy behind the website is to provide people with information that they currently do not have.
"In this website, we do not push a particular agenda or outcome," explained Mr Ummel.
"In fact, we are very interested to see how people choose to use the data." -
Expected as much.
Well, time to return to the real world and let these wankers think they have it all and good.
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we are going to have a REAL Rolls Royce aircraft engine assembly plant, we don't have it ALL because there is another plant, the original plant in the UK, and we are feeling GOOD. Don't you? why must you also look at the negative side?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Expected as much.
Well, time to return to the real world and let these wankers think they have it all and good. 
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Originally posted by sgdiehard:Tell me, how do Rolls Royce aircraft engine assembly facility, industrial gas manufacturer and biodiesel plant cause pollution??
Rolls Royce aircraft component no need use dangerous/poisonous chemicals one ah? Advanced alloys, cadmium metal, etching solvents, tell me you don't need those in producing aircraft engines.
Industrial gas manufacturer. Assuming the gas in question is CNG/methane, IT IS POISONOUS. And no matter how tightly sealed the compound is, SOME WILL LEAK OUT.
Biodiesel plant. Processing, cracking of hydrocarbons (biodiesel) need heat. Lots of heat. Where does it come from? From burning gas/oil/coal of course. Now prove to me burning something doesn't cause pollution. -
If you had bothered to read carefully, my posts in this thread have not been about the Rolls Royce plant (which will be in Seletar), and have been in relation to the climate issues at large in Jurong West.Originally posted by sgdiehard:we are going to have a REAL Rolls Royce aircraft engine assembly plant, we don't have it ALL because there is another plant, the original plant in the UK, and we are feeling GOOD. Don't you? why must you also look at the negative side?
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I cannot be bothered.The more I let him speak - the more dumber he looks. Sghardie obviously thinks he knows more than the NUS researchers.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Expected as much.
Well, time to return to the real world and let these wankers think they have it all and good.
There is also one more article of interest in Social Indicators Research which is related to a survey of the residents in Jurong which also contradicts what sghardie says.
He can refute what he wants (The NUS research already proven him wrong) or detract the facts from the debate . Like what he did with the Constitution of Singapore. -
Are you claiming that those NUS researchers are talking out of their ass then? Because I am merely talking about their research. I think it was done quite well.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Singapore's plan in pollution control is world class, there is no need to brag to me. If you have a few hundred millions to invest in Singapore, then we will ask you what is your pollution control management.
If we are not happy, we don't want your investment. Something you may want to know, many industries want to invest in Singapore, but we can choose what we want.
Tell me, how do Rolls Royce aircraft engine assembly facility, industrial gas manufacturer and biodiesel plant cause pollution??
you are really talking through your bottom. 
Of all things , hammering the research done by Singapore's premier university just to prove that one idiotic idea of yours is true (despite how fallacious it is) , that has gotta be very low. And you dare to call yourself a Singaporean. -
do you know what is an assembly plant? who says we are producing aircraft engines?Originally posted by rooki:
Rolls Royce aircraft component no need use dangerous/poisonous chemicals one ah? Advanced alloys, cadmium metal, etching solvents, tell me you don't need those in producing aircraft engines.
Industrial gas manufacturer. Assuming the gas in question is CNG/methane, IT IS POISONOUS. And no matter how tightly sealed the compound is, SOME WILL LEAK OUT.
Biodiesel plant. Processing, cracking of hydrocarbons (biodiesel) need heat. Lots of heat. Where does it come from? From burning gas/oil/coal of course. Now prove to me burning something doesn't cause pollution.
We already have several industrial gas manufacturers in Singapore, ever heard of any problem? If you mother don't tighten your cylinder gas properly, the leak will also cause an explosion, pollute you kitchen.
Your mother cook everyday? is she causing pollution when she burns gas/oil? we don't use coal here, but have you ever eaten BBQ, when charcoal is used? stop eating that for burning charcoal cause pollution. -
The latest catch for singapore is about rolls royce plant, what has climate issues at large in jurong west got to do with rolls royce plant? common sense??Originally posted by LazerLordz:If you had bothered to read carefully, my posts in this thread have not been about the Rolls Royce plant (which will be in Seletar), and have been in relation to the climate issues at large in Jurong West.
Jeez. Is common sense so hard to find?
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Haiyah. Mai ka li kong lah. Go and read properly, infer and come back. If not, good day to you.Originally posted by sgdiehard:The latest catch for singapore is about rolls royce plant, what has climate issues at large in jurong west got to do with rolls royce plant? common sense?? -
Originally posted by fymk:
the claim by the NUS reseachers here is taken out of context here. The NUS researchers may not be talking out of their a s s, but to question refineries pollution management in relationship to rolls royce aircraft engine assembly plant is talking from her bottom. still can't see what's wrong? check if it is wet.
Are you claiming that those NUS researchers are talking out of their ass then? Because I am merely talking about their research. I think it was done quite well.
Of all things , [b]hammering the research done by Singapore's premier university just to prove that one idiotic idea of yours is true (despite how fallacious it is) , that has gotta be very low. And you dare to call yourself a Singaporean.
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You are taking things out of context to suit yourself .Originally posted by sgdiehard:the claim by the NUS reseachers here is taken out of context here. The NUS researchers may not be talking out of their a s s, but to question refineries pollution management in relationship to rolls royce aircraft engine assembly plant is talking from her bottom. still can't see what's wrong? check if it is wet.
I was commenting to LazerLord not you . You just had to jump into things and make yourself look stupid. BTW when did I mention rolls royce plant? Rooki was attempting to explain to you out of pity about pollution because you cannot seem to get into your head while others can.
OK Let me make it very simple for you to understand:
1. I was talking about environmental issues in JURONG.
2. Those biodiesel plants are going to be in Jurong Island (Australian Natural Fuel) and Tuas (Finnish Neste Oil) plus ExxonMobile's Petrochemical complex in JI.
3.Which residential areas are near there? Jurong West, Boon Lay. In fact the whole Jurong town.
4. Rolls Royce plant is in Seletar. Not Jurong.
5. Ok let's get back to environmental factors in Jurong.
Your geography - Fail
Your science - Fail
Your comprehension - Fail
Good grief , I wonder if you are actually Singaporean who lived in Singapore before .
For once Gazelle actually does better than you by getting a very very slight idea of what we are talking about and as usual he went off the mark . The shame of it all. -
Originally posted by fymk:Singapore has the long experience with oil refineries but I dunno about environmental impact management.
people ask A u answer B. always so ready to look down on and shoot at other's people yeah?Originally posted by Gazelle:
Australia has long experience with mining and the world biggest exporter of coal. Coal pollutes when it is mined, transported to the power plant, stored, and burned. Just look at china, they are polluted with Australia coal. -
On the basis of this and other earth-shattering drivel of yours, it must be the world's 8th wonder that you could actually make a comfortable living "anywhere in the world" as you claimed...Originally posted by sgdiehard:The latest catch for singapore is about rolls royce plant, what has climate issues at large in jurong west got to do with rolls royce plant? common sense?? -
normally it is street smart people who make money. knowledgeable people especially book worms don't.Originally posted by walesa:On the basis of this and other earth-shattering drivel of yours, it must be the world's 8th wonder that you could actually make a comfortable living "anywhere in the world" as you claimed... -
If by 'street smart' you mean ruthless and pig headed. And what are you trying to say? 'money making' = good and 'environmental consciousness' = bad?Originally posted by Daddy!!:normally it is street smart people who make money. knowledgeable people especially book worms don't. -
bravo
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the number one country in the world is also the worst polluter, young d.ick.Originally posted by Demonight:If by 'street smart' you mean ruthless and pig headed. And what are you trying to say? 'money making' = good and 'environmental consciousness' = bad?
you could migrate to africa jungles to continue your love for nature. -
looking down? no lah, just want to highlighting that air pollution problem is everywhere and Singapore government is already doing its part to ensure that chemical plants are located away from the main island, in places such as pulau bukum and jurong island.Originally posted by ^tamago^:people ask A u answer B. always so ready to look down on and shoot at other's people yeah? -
Originally posted by fymk:
fymk, do you have a copy of the report?
Are you claiming that those NUS researchers are talking out of their ass then? Because I am merely talking about their research. I think it was done quite well.
Of all things , [b]hammering the research done by Singapore's premier university just to prove that one idiotic idea of yours is true (despite how fallacious it is) , that has gotta be very low. And you dare to call yourself a Singaporean.[/b] -
Don't even answer the question and call me names. Real mature. And I'd like to make a suggestion here. Whenever you see a tree near you cut it down ok? Make sure you do your part since you obviously don't understand the repercussions of pollutionOriginally posted by Daddy!!:the number one country in the world is also the worst polluter, young d.ick.
you could migrate to africa jungles to continue your love for nature. -
Originally posted by fymk:
Jurong has been an industrial area since the independence of Singapore. Over the years, factories came in and out as we overhauled the industries to replace labor intensive and pollution prone industries with high value added and cleaner industries. The towns in Jurong East and West were developed much later. You think we never knew the pollution issue before we developed the towns?
[b]You are taking things out of context to suit yourself .
I was commenting to LazerLord not you . You just had to jump into things and make yourself look stupid. BTW when did I mention rolls royce plant? Rooki was attempting to explain to you out of pity about pollution because you cannot seem to get into your head while others can.
OK Let me make it very simple for you to understand:
1. I was talking about environmental issues in JURONG.
2. Those biodiesel plants are going to be in Jurong Island (Australian Natural Fuel) and Tuas (Finnish Neste Oil) plus ExxonMobile's Petrochemical complex in JI.
3.Which residential areas are near there? Jurong West, Boon Lay. In fact the whole Jurong town.
4. Rolls Royce plant is in Seletar. Not Jurong.
5. Ok let's get back to environmental factors in Jurong.
Your geography - Fail
Your science - Fail
Your comprehension - Fail
Good grief , I wonder if you are actually Singaporean who lived in Singapore before .
For once Gazelle actually does better than you by getting a very very slight idea of what we are talking about and as usual he went off the mark . The shame of it all.[/b]
Jurong island was one of the greatest development in Singapore industrialisation. Besides better safeguard against possible terrorists attack, jurong island has infra structure to control pollution, such as using LNG which is safer and cleaner. Industrial waste water is channelled through underground sewerage to the new water plant. Solid industrial waste go directly to the rubbish dumping ground on an island.
ExxonMobil's ethylene plant uses feedstock that comes directly from its refinery nearby, any further cracking of CH only mean cleaner products and of course higher value added. What pollution?
The biodiesel fuel plant uses palm oil as feedstock, what pollution does it cause to the atmosphere, except when palm oil spill accidentally into waterways or reservoirs?
Industrial gas manufacturers produce gases through physical separation of atmospheric air, what pollution is it causing?
There will be emission into the atmosphere, even as your mother is looking. There will be waste water discharged into the sewer, even as you mother is washing, and there will be rubbish thrown away like you mother after she finish sweeping or vacuuming the house. Just because there are petro industries does not mean there is pollution! Just because your father got mustache does not mean everybody else got moustache is your father! understand the logic?
I visit clients in Jurong on regular basis and I play golf at JCC on alternate Saturday, I don't think I am about to die soon. -
Originally posted by walesa:On the basis of this and other earth-shattering drivel of yours, it must be the world's 8th wonder that you could actually make a comfortable living "anywhere in the world" as you claimed... say whatever you like, I am having a comfortable life now, hmmm... just need to ignore the rubbish that popped up every now and then
BTW, if you draw conclusion from what you read in this forum, you need lots of luck to move ahead in life. -
I quoted it earlier - go read my previous posts. Journal name plus title is there.Originally posted by Gazelle:fymk, do you have a copy of the report? -
yes you highlighted the name of the report, I am asking if you have a copy of the report. If you do, can you share with us?Originally posted by fymk:I quoted it earlier - go read my previous posts. Journal name plus title is there.