Latest Catch for Singapore
-
I like the way you play with words. I am not getting a sensible reply out of you.Originally posted by sgdiehard:
I like the way you are playing around with her. you know you are not going to get any sensible reply.
Pollution - regardless of whether it is light or heavy - is still pollution either way. No avoiding the established definition.
Jurong town centres happens to be the point of interest because of its proximity to heavy industries in Jurong Island.
Argumentum ad nauseam. -
Originally posted by fymk:
The main aim of the NUS was to prove that lichens can be used as an environmental indicator, and their experiments show results consistent with other indicators and theories supporting that there should be more zinc and copper particles in the near where there are refineries and shipbuilding industries. There is pollen in the air where there are flowers around. Nothing is said about pollution. There is no need to abuse the report for your own purpose, you know it doesnt work, and only reflects your inadequacies and stupidity.
Claim substantiated. Ask any scientist if petroleum industry will have some form of pollution - all will say yes. Even Daddy!! agreed that oil refinery emits some form of [b]pollutants.
And for questioning the environmental impact management - why not? No one has been answering the question but some of you choosing to go on the offensive.
Well , as far as I am concerned , with a person who claims to be Singaporean, you are a fine example of genetic pollution with your logic. Why did you think even another forumner , rooki ,went so kindly to explain to you what those industries emit ?
The reason why I asked is because I used to live in Jurong when I was young.
So until you live there everyday of your life . Talk to me .[/b]
You may want to know that there is a university in Jurong even before Jurong was developed into an industrial area, formerly known as NU, now NTU. Thousands of academics and professionals lived there (due to its distance from the city) before they graduated. The fact that these graduates continue to succeed in life having spent min 3 years there prove that your retarded mind is definitely not due to any pollution in Jurong where you used to live. No need to talk to you. If you don't believe, ask any NUS researchers.
Answer to the environmental impact management of refineries was given, offensive? please elaborate on why the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore is insufficient. We have many scientists there prepared to answer the issues. Bring up the issues so there can be debates and discussion. Your style of Po Fu Ma Jie doesn't work.
If you don't have any more to say about the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore, or why the "latest catch for Singapore" is no good for Singapore, really don't bother to write. Argument without substance is diarrhea of the brain, it is a pollutant to a forum. Just don't think that your s h i t s don't stink.
-
Argumentum ad nauseam .Originally posted by sgdiehard:The main aim of the NUS was to prove that lichens can be used as an environmental indicator, and their experiments show results consistent with other indicators and theories supporting that there should be more zinc and copper particles in the near where there are refineries and shipbuilding industries. There is pollen in the air where there are flowers around. Nothing is said about pollution. There is no need to abuse the report for your own purpose, you know it doesnt work, and only reflects your inadequacies and stupidity.
You may want to know that there is a university in Jurong even before Jurong was developed into an industrial area, formerly known as NU, now NTU. Thousands of academics and professionals lived there (due to its distance from the city) before they graduated. The fact that these graduates continue to succeed in life having spent min 3 years there prove that your retarded mind is definitely not due to any pollution in Jurong where you used to live. No need to talk to you. If you don't believe, ask any NUS researchers.
Answer to the environmental impact management of refineries was given, offensive? please elaborate on why the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore is insufficient. We have many scientists there prepared to answer the issues. Bring up the issues so there can be debates and discussion. Your style of Po Fu Ma Jie doesn't work.
If you don't have any more to say about the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore, or why the "latest catch for Singapore" is no good for Singapore, really don't bother to write. Argument without substance is diarrhea of the brain, it is a pollutant to a forum. Just don't think that your s h i t s don't stink. -
For someone who wasn't even born in Singapore, he sure talks like one of the many asinine fellows who doesn't know when to stop arguing.
-
X2!!Originally posted by sgdiehard:The main aim of the NUS was to prove that lichens can be used as an environmental indicator, and their experiments show results consistent with other indicators and theories supporting that there should be more zinc and copper particles in the near where there are refineries and shipbuilding industries. There is pollen in the air where there are flowers around. Nothing is said about pollution. There is no need to abuse the report for your own purpose, you know it doesnt work, and only reflects your inadequacies and stupidity.
You may want to know that there is a university in Jurong even before Jurong was developed into an industrial area, formerly known as NU, now NTU. Thousands of academics and professionals lived there (due to its distance from the city) before they graduated. The fact that these graduates continue to succeed in life having spent min 3 years there prove that your retarded mind is definitely not due to any pollution in Jurong where you used to live. No need to talk to you. If you don't believe, ask any NUS researchers.
Answer to the environmental impact management of refineries was given, offensive? please elaborate on why the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore is insufficient. We have many scientists there prepared to answer the issues. Bring up the issues so there can be debates and discussion. Your style of Po Fu Ma Jie doesn't work.
If you don't have any more to say about the environment impact management of the refineries in Singapore, or why the "latest catch for Singapore" is no good for Singapore, really don't bother to write. Argument without substance is diarrhea of the brain, it is a pollutant to a forum. Just don't think that your s h i t s don't stink. -
and he sure put to shame those who were born in singapore but abandoned singapore and tried to run down singapore on the forum.Originally posted by LazerLordz:For someone who wasn't even born in Singapore, he sure talks like one of the many asinine fellows who doesn't know when to stop arguing.
The one who quoted NUS researchers out of context ought to take a lesson on how a misquotation could be abused before his credibility runs out completely. Believe he didn't graduate from NUS. -
btw, physical and biological science are different from political science, our field of studies are much more varied and complicated as matters of the world, our researches are therefore more specific and our reports cannot be used for twisting and turning in argument.Originally posted by LazerLordz:For someone who wasn't even born in Singapore, he sure talks like one of the many asinine fellows who doesn't know when to stop arguing.
Be careful next time, it is better to s h i t down under than to have your s h i t hitting the fan. -
It's a she.Originally posted by sgdiehard:and he sure put to shame those who were born in singapore but abandoned singapore and tried to run down singapore on the forum.
The one who quoted NUS researchers out of context ought to take a lesson on how a misquotation could be abused before his credibility runs out completely. Believe he didn't graduate from NUS.
You twisted and turned facts- first refineries don't cause pollution then no pollution then you say no health effect so not considered pollution - basically you are making yourself look dumber .
I don't need to graduate from NUS - hey whatever . You are no university graduate , judging by your lack of critical thinking. I don't expect to see you publishing anything at all except your nonsensical views in the forum.
Hey it's all fine with me. I got better things to do then say anything further to you. -
Talk to me when you actually have expertise in the area or else don't bother.Originally posted by sgdiehard:btw, physical and biological science are different from political science, our field of studies are much more varied and complicated as matters of the world, our researches are therefore more specific and our reports cannot be used for twisting and turning in argument.
Be careful next time, it is better to s h i t down under than to have your s h i t hitting the fan. -
Next time pick on the mistakes of the government, single out the exploitation of MNC, highlight observations in the Singaporean society that may require changes, suggest good things you experienced in oz that could also be good for Singapore, wake up the singaporeans who never learn to appreciate. think through and give balanced views, your views would be well appreciated. Any posts with intention to run us down will be dealth with accordingly, for the force is with us.Originally posted by fymk:It's a she.
You twisted and turned facts- first refineries don't cause pollution then no pollution then you say no health effect so not considered pollution - basically you are making yourself look dumber .
I don't need to graduate from NUS - hey whatever . You are no university graduate , judging by your lack of critical thinking. I don't expect to see you publishing anything at all except your nonsensical views in the forum.
Hey it's all fine with me. I got better things to do then say anything further to you. -
God save Singapore!!Originally posted by sgdiehard:Next time pick on the mistakes of the government, single out the exploitation of MNC, highlight observations in the Singaporean society that may require changes, suggest good things you experienced in oz that could also be good for Singapore, wake up the singaporeans who never learn to appreciate. think through and give balanced views, your views would be well appreciated. Any posts with intention to run us down will be dealth with accordingly, for the force is with us. -
Maybe so, but don't assume too many things ah.Originally posted by sgdiehard:btw, physical and biological science are different from political science, our field of studies are much more varied and complicated as matters of the world, our researches are therefore more specific and our reports cannot be used for twisting and turning in argument.
Be careful next time, it is better to s h i t down under than to have your s h i t hitting the fan. 
-
LOL no point . Either way you all don't listen and the result remains that you will start accusing me of dissention.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Next time pick on the mistakes of the government, single out the exploitation of MNC, highlight observations in the Singaporean society that may require changes, suggest good things you experienced in oz that could also be good for Singapore, wake up the singaporeans who never learn to appreciate. think through and give balanced views, your views would be well appreciated. Any posts with intention to run us down will be dealth with accordingly, for the force is with us.
What you really want is for me to sing praises of Singapore incessantly and blindly.
Sorry , no can do. I rather be honest to myself. -
*wanders off for dinner, feeling hungry*.
-
isnt it obvious that your objective in this thread and forum is to shoot singapore down whereever and whenever you can.Originally posted by fymk:LOL no point . Either way you all don't listen and the result remains that you will start accusing me of dissention.
What you really want is for me to sing praises of Singapore incessantly and blindly.
Sorry , no can do. I rather be honest to myself.
unfortunately you have failed miserably this time. -
I miss char tow kuay .....used to buy it from nearby kopitiam for dinner ...so nice.Originally posted by LazerLordz:*wanders off for dinner, feeling hungry*. -
wondering what to eat tomorrow, really sick and tired of Singapore good and cheap food..
-
LOL...weaaaaak.Originally posted by Gazelle:wondering what to eat tomorrow, really sick and tired of Singapore good and cheap food.. -
Originally posted by Gazelle:
I'll stick to my pizza, kebabs, burgers, clam chowder, bouillabaisse, foie gras, pasta and bratwursts, thank you very much.
[b]wondering what to eat tomorrow, really sick and tired of Singapore good and cheap food.. -
Attracting FDI is probably the thing PAP does best.... because PAP can depress local wages, import foreigners and give minimal protection to workers. Something not many countries can do.
http://www.okusi.net/garydean/works/fdising.html
Of the NIEs that have taken conscious control of the national economy -- which is to say, all of them with the exception of Hongkong -- only Singapore chose to use FDI as its principal source of external capital. Taiwan and South Korea, by stark contrast, chose a completely opposing route and in the main relied upon external borrowings and aid to support their developmental agendas. Consequently, 'technological deepening' and innovation is now far more apparent in Taiwan and South Korea. These two economies have retained control of investments and developed the skills and infrastructure to innovate.
However, one important weakness in Singapore's approach is the question of technological innovation, considered the last stage of technology transfer.[10] For a variety of reasons, state-of-the-art R&D by TNCs is nearly always concentrated in a few developed countries, and high technology tends not to be developed outside the TNC's home-base. Cutting-edge R&D in particular is usually undertaken close to management and decision-making centres where there exists a large local market, and a pool of advanced and specialist technical skills.[11] Another important weakness is that the very presence of strong TNCs can inhibit local companies from deepening their technological capabilities, preferring to import foreign technologies that are proven and ready-to-use, rather than invest in their own R&D.[12] This is arguably what has already happened in Singapore as a consequence of their developmental path.
With or without FDI, Singapore would have found it difficult to languish as an economic backwater. Accidents of location, culture and history came together in Singapore, and given a modicum of political stability, such a country could only prosper. Singapore was lucky; its apparent 'success' was certainly not only due to its FDI policies, but also due to many other factors.
What FDI has done for Singapore is to assist in the creation of a nation with one of the highest per capita incomes in the world, for what that is worth. Singapore could be said to be wealthy in the same way that ancient Athens was said to be democratic. In both cases, a huge, anonymous underclass of cheap labour supported the superstructure; in the case of Singapore, Malaysians (of every race, not just Malays) and other Southeast Asians, who are offered only the barest of legislative protection by the government.
The cost in human terms of this success has been high: Singapore today is an authoritarian corporatist state that intervenes in virtually every aspect of citizen's lives. Singapore has become a nation of functionaries who serve the interests of the TNCs and the Singaporean state elite. Within such an environment there exists very little true entrepreneurship. FDI has not assisted in the development of an innovative population; rather it has assisted in the creation of a self-satisfied, arrogant society that seems content to live off its natural advantages.[23] Singapore today resembles an enormous air-conditioned shopping mall, with squeaky-clean streets and traffic so orderly as to border on the bizarre. -
April 2000 - I wonder how much have changed since this report was written..
-
Just a thought:
If there was a beach that was accessible at Jurong Island, would anyone swim there?
Not trying to diss anyone here but honestly, I've been there... Its not my favourite place.
Much effort is put in to treat by products and ensure that waste is not discharged into the water systems untreated but how do they do that?
Answer: If they can't reclaim it and recycle it, they burn it. Its safer than discharging it untreated into the water systems but in doing so, there's emission. Sure, there are high chimmneys and air scrubbers and all, but CO2 is still CO2...
Tons of water are used for cooling there... Are we to say that the warm water discharged has no impact on marine life? I don't know... I would love to go fishing there just to see for myself, but SAF soldiers chase me away leh
Its probably much cleaner than a lot of plants in third world countries that pays no attention whatsoever to the environment, but its honestly no shangri la. -
tell the good news to these people
-
Yeah you would fail too if you were ganged up on by ignorant zealots ( a group which includes a soiled panty sniffer)Originally posted by Gazelle:isnt it obvious that your objective in this thread and forum is to shoot singapore down whereever and whenever you can.
unfortunately you have failed miserably this time. -
fishbuff, do you foresee yourself collecting cardboard when you are old and grey?