Originally posted by Catknight:Found that my job wages getting depressed as the next china worker, what you think?
Welcome to the real world..... feel free to plan your exit from S'pore..... like most of the ppl here.Originally posted by Catknight:Found that my job wages getting depressed as the next china worker, what you think?
I first time got listen a company sending their recruitment officer to neighbouring countries to get new staff.Originally posted by Jontst78:I agree with some of the points brought up. I feel the filtering process is not stringent enough, mainly due to the fact that the govt is trying to build up the numbers. I think having a system, that is somewhat similar to the one the Australian Govt uses(modified to suit our needs) would probably increase the standards. Quality vs quantity approach.
Also, I feel that citizens should be given a much higher hiring priority that what is it at now. Employer should be able to justify not being able to higher a resident, before hiring a foreigner. I was in a local IT firm, speaking to the HR manager some years back. There was a project starting in a couple months, the HR manager just say, we are sending a team to the Phillipines and Malaysia to do hiring. "Thats just going to spoil our labour market that push down wage levels" was the first thing I thought.
I dun think thats unique to the company that I mentioned tho. But the way the HR manager said it, kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Its like she didn't even wanted to consider hiring locals first. Its white collar IT personnel we were talking about. We needed a couple dozen at that time.Originally posted by will4:I first time got listen a company sending their recruitment officer to neighbouring countries to get new staff.
I felt that there r plenty of foreign professionals in Spore, why would ur HR manager has to send people all the way to the neighbouring countries toOriginally posted by Jontst78:I dun think thats unique to the company that I mentioned tho. But the way the HR manager said it, kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Its like she didn't even wanted to consider hiring locals first. Its white collar IT personnel we were talking about. We needed a couple dozen at that time.
I know my future company does that, got from Vietnam and Malaysia.Originally posted by will4:I first time got listen a company sending their recruitment officer to neighbouring countries to get new staff.
Exploitation, IMO, but thats just my opinion. The idea was to bond them for 2 years there and then. Even before they stepped into SG. They didn't want to pay PRs or Citizens CPF.Originally posted by will4:I felt that there r plenty of foreign professionals in Spore, why would ur HR manager has to send people all the way to the neighbouring countries to
do recruiting? All the HR manager has to do is to place a recruiting advertisement in the ST.
Speaking about the CPF matter, no doubt that a portion of the salary will be credited to the CPF account but $90000 will be locked up to buy annuityOriginally posted by Jontst78:Exploitation, IMO, but thats just my opinion. The idea was to bond them for 2 years there and then. Even before they stepped into SG. They didn't want to pay PRs or Citizens CPF.
our money?Originally posted by will4:Speaking about the CPF matter, no doubt that a portion of the salary will be credited to the CPF account but $90000 will be locked up to buy annuity
compared to the foreign profesional who need not get employer's CPF contribution, they still better off compared to local who cannot get to touch their moeny upon reaching retirement.
Our CPF money which need to buy annuity but for foreigners who although need not get CPF contribution, no matter how long they work in Spore, theyOriginally posted by eagle:our money?![]()
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My fren also mentioned that Spore's situation is becoming similar to HK.Originally posted by In_Between_Days:The problem is SG is a small country...there's only so much you can do...
SG has no natural resources...so it has to survive on FTs...and foreign investments...
Moreover coupled with the increasing population & limited land space i fear SG may end up being like HK or even worst...probably not now...but in future...
If SM Goh is already voicing concerns...i think it's time to start worrying...
Honestly i do not know where its all gonna end...
The last 50 years have passed. Does Sporean care about his citizen rights?Originally posted by Catknight:Concern over cracks
With hundreds of thousands of settlers arriving in Singapore, ill feeling appears to be rising among some Singaporeans. By Seah Chiang Nee.
Nov 24, 2007
ILL feeling towards foreigners is beginning to surface in this most unlikely of places – cosmopolitan Singapore – attributed to the record influx of ..............”
Given more time, it will become harder & harder, for despotics like these to rule this country....Originally posted by reddressman:The last 50 years have passed. Does Sporean care about his citizen rights?
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agreed 100%.Originally posted by fymk:Hey the PAP can teach you valuable lessons - you just have to see it in a different perspective to understand it properly :
1. Skills shortages : get a skill that is in worldwide demand and have global mobility for yourself.
2. Foreign talents : be a foreign talent elsewhere and gleam the FT benefits in another country . If anyone calls you a "quiter" , just tell them to look at the "foreign quiters" in Singapore.
3. Globalisation and wages : other countries are willing to fish for people with experience and willing to pay competitive (higher, not lower) rates if you are willing to take a step towards globalising yourself.
That also goes for the "get out of your comfort zone" lesson.
So I suppose the average Brit, American and Swiss employed in menial jobs are drawing wages that commensurate with their Chinese and Vietnamese counterparts in the same job?Originally posted by the Bear:well, that's happening everywhere in the world..
they will outsource to the cheapest possible vendor which can satisfy their specs...
and in order to get the contract, the vendor will squeeze his own people...
that's what you get in a free market...
I think that function was to control wages so that more foreign investments would come in , not to maintain social stratification or elitism. That's to be fair to the government.Originally posted by fishbuff:agreed 100%.
i remembered during the late 80/early 90 when the govt control and restrict the intake of people into tertiary education so as to maintain the social stratifications of the graduates and the non-grads. elitism in another word.
an extremely short foresight and now we are paying the price. the people around my age aren't dumb and these are the survivors from my era, they can put in the sweat and labour when they are given the opportunity, but no.