singaporeans are getting replace in sg
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while i was working as a technical consultant servicing banks and other financial institutions, i can hardly see any chinese at all, let alone singaporeans. likewise to the last job when i worked in an IT gaming company, out of 300+ IT professionals, only less than 4 are singaporeans.
while the market in SG is definitely picking up, older IT professionals like me are having a hard time finding decent good jobs that pay enough to sustain my family. i had;
- called from job agencies and once they learnt im over 39, they citied that their requirement is for someone that is younger than that.
- the interviewers at the banks that i was trying for the job are all indians FTs, i look around at the IT departments, not a single singaporeans in sight. I knew they are looking for their own kind of people, and interviewing me is just a cover up. as i knew it, i didnt get the job even though i had over 8 years of oracle db experiences in implementation and 3 certifications in oracle.
there is no incentives for hiring singaporeans. as one other forumer that had mention about hiring singaporean males, we all had to do reservist one of every 12 months. employers will never like that and cited that if their business can carry on without the presence of us during our reservists, then probably they wont need us at all.
i cant help to feel that singaporean males are expendable and easy to abuse. see how those PAP ministers like Philip Yeo, Vivian, Dr Hen etc are so audacious in mocking the singaporeans? are we such a pushover? -
Do you know that each time you post about such a topic ...you are liable to start a war of flaming ?
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i'm not sure exactly how to look at they economy.Originally posted by fishbuff:while the market in SG is definitely picking up, older IT professionals like me
but in the simple man's point of view, i'm wondering....
is sg's economy picking up because the output is increasing? or the input is decreasing and producing the same results which causes a 'growth'? -
Well, you can heartily attribute our bleak disposition to our Far Sighted government...Originally posted by fishbuff:while i was working as a technical consultant servicing banks and other financial institutions, i can hardly see any chinese at all, let alone singaporeans. likewise to the last job when i worked in an IT gaming company, out of 300+ IT professionals, only less than 4 are singaporeans.
while the market in SG is definitely picking up, older IT professionals like me are having a hard time finding decent good jobs that pay enough to sustain my family. i had;
- called from job agencies and once they learnt im over 39, they citied that their requirement is for someone that is younger than that.
- the interviewers at the banks that i was trying for the job are all indians FTs, i look around at the IT departments, not a single singaporeans in sight. I knew they are looking for their own kind of people, and interviewing me is just a cover up. as i knew it, i didnt get the job even though i had over 8 years of oracle db experiences in implementation and 3 certifications in oracle.
there is no incentives for hiring singaporeans. as one other forumer that had mention about hiring singaporean males, we all had to do reservist one of every 12 months. employers will never like that and cited that if their business can carry on without the presence of us during our reservists, then probably they wont need us at all.
i cant help to feel that singaporean males are expendable and easy to abuse. see how those PAP ministers like Philip Yeo, Vivian, Dr Hen etc are so audacious in mocking the singaporeans? are we such a pushover? -
think the economy picking up or growth, in a simplified sense, is the amount of money in totality that is moving around within Singapore.
e.g more investors set up shop here, they bring their money, contributes to growth.
How much of if trickles down to the lower and middle classes is another can of worms. -
How come IT people already talk about being replaced?
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Because it is what's happening?Originally posted by Gazelle:How come IT people already talk about being replaced?
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From ST forum. Mr. Poh thinks
MOM too liberal about jobs for foreigners
MANY Singaporeans share the concern of Dr Lim Boon Hee in his letter, 'Are foreigners depriving unskilled locals of jobs?' (ST, Nov 2
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He has highlighted a simmering issue that is troubling our society.
Foreigners are ousting locals not only in unskilled jobs but also in professional, executive and clerical positions.
With employers' penchant for young and cheaper foreign workers, locals - particularly the older ones - struggle to find employment.
I know of at least one private school where the majority of the office staff are foreigners. In some schools, Chinese nationals dominate the Chinese Department.
The crux of the problem is that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) is too liberal in its treatment of foreigners. A few examples, from the MOM website, attest to this:
Spouses, parents, children (including the handicapped), parents-in-law, stepchildren and unmarried daughters above 21 years of age of professionals are allowed to be brought in, and these people are allowed to take up e1/8mployment.
Foreign students studying here are allowed to work.
Companies can bring in foreign workers for attachment and training.
Little wonder then that foreign workers have made huge inroads into our society.
With the high cost of living, Singaporeans, too, need a job but to their dismay they are being supplanted by foreigners.
The Government needs to address this issue seriously.
Poh Tip Twee -
From ST forum. Frankie says:
INFLUX OF FOREIGN WORKERS
Help mature qualified Singaporeans find jobs
I REFER to Dr Lim Boon Hee's letter about locals being deprived of jobs by foreign workers and the news on the Government easing up on S-passes.
Despite the Government and private employers' call to employ mature Singaporeans, employers generally do not wish to employ them for it is now easier to hire foreign workers as the Government has relaxed work-permit approval. It is also cheaper to employ foreign workers.
Hence, there is now a pool of mature citizens - qualified and with much experience - who wish to be employed and be relevant to society but who are unable to land a job.
This pool of workers has not yet been tapped and yet we are relaxing the rules for employers to employ semi-skilled foreign workers on S-passes.
I am 60 years of age. From 1971 to 2001, I worked for two multinational corporations as an administration/human resource manager.
In the last job, I was retrenched when the company relocated.
Since then, I have sent hundreds of applications for job vacancies suited to my experience but to no avail.
I am not fussy but rarely do prospective employers call me for an interview. On the rare occasions when I was interviewed, because of personal recommendation, I was not successful.
The feedback was that I was too old and could not fit into the company environment. The prospective employers were being presumptuous. I was prepared to
work based on employment conditions which would not cause the employer to worry about my age but there was just no opportunity to discuss this.
If the Government wishes the people to work till an older age, it must look into this category of mature people who can fill various job vacancies. They certainly can be employed and there is no necessity to issue S-passes, which take away the jobs.
I would like to suggest that the Ministry of Manpower establish a section to register this category of people and coordinate with employers who have difficulty hiring such staff.
We would also need to change the mindset of company executives who think that people above 55 years of age are old and are unable to fit into today's corporations.
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At 60 years of age a person should be relaxing at home and living off his/her pension...sigh..what a bleak future awaiting me
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seriously... what is the point of posting anything?? Singaporean always like to complain this complain that...... which i agree that they have a point....and should complain about all the BS that PAP is giving us... but.... put ur complain into action lah... leave sg or dun vote for them lor.... if not.. then what's the point to complain about something that are not going to change?
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Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):seriously... what is the point of posting anything?? Singaporean always like to complain this complain that...... which i agree that they have a point....and should complain about all the BS that PAP is giving us... but.... put ur complain into action lah... leave sg or dun vote for them lor.... if not.. then what's the point to complain about something that are not going to change?
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I'm curious ... what about in australia .... in your current job, how many are native australians, how many are immigrants like yourself ? ... -
Yeah well I DIDN'T vote for them so can I complain?Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):seriously... what is the point of posting anything?? Singaporean always like to complain this complain that...... which i agree that they have a point....and should complain about all the BS that PAP is giving us... but.... put ur complain into action lah... leave sg or dun vote for them lor.... if not.. then what's the point to complain about something that are not going to change? -
mi too... but i dun pay GST as well.... so do something about it dun just complain.. it's not going to change a thing as.... U THINK THEY CARE ABOUT UR COMPLAIN????Originally posted by Demonight:Yeah well I DIDN'T vote for them so can I complain? -
Native australians>naturalised australians>permanent residents> the only 1 I know that holds a working pass - she is american and she is on loan for 2 years.Originally posted by Fatum:I'm curious ... what about in australia .... in your current job, how many are native australians, how many are immigrants like yourself ? ... -
So what do you suggest? Go out and protest against the gov (and risk "disappearing" forever due to ISA)?Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):mi too... but i dun pay GST as well.... so do something about it dun just complain.. it's not going to change a thing as.... U THINK THEY CARE ABOUT UR COMPLAIN????
Or migrate to other countries (which is only available for a selected lucky few). -
no i suggest everyone just stop complaining and live with it if there is nothing they can do aboutOriginally posted by royston_ang:So what do you suggest? Go out and protest against the gov (and risk "disappearing" forever due to ISA)?
Or migrate to other countries (which is only available for a selected lucky few).
be thankful for that half glass of water u have left rather than complaining about the half that u dun have
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heng, i still got a chance to get something not IT for a degree.
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Ha ha ha, it is crap you just posted.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):no i suggest everyone just stop complaining and live with it if there is nothing they can do about
be thankful for that half glass of water u have left rather than complaining about the half that u dun have -
I think otherwise. By opening voicing our discontent, even if the gov ignore us, it will create awareness of the issues. Else everyone will think everyone is happy with every policy from the gov due to the bias reporting of the local media.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):no i suggest everyone just stop complaining and live with it if there is nothing they can do about
be thankful for that half glass of water u have left rather than complaining about the half that u dun have
Who know, this may eventually cause PAP to lose a few more seats to the opposition and force them to listen to us. -
I second what you say. Some people just have small mind, it is that much a small mind thinks.Originally posted by royston_ang:I think otherwise. By opening voicing our discontent, even if the gov ignore us, it will create awareness of the issues. Else everyone will think everyone is happy with every policy from the gov due to the bias reporting of the local media.
Who know, this may eventually cause PAP to lose a few more seats to the opposition and force them to listen to us. -
because it is happening very pervasively in IT.Originally posted by Gazelle:How come IT people already talk about being replaced?
i assume u are a girl and have not step into the private sector (not govt) with no dependencies and finanial commitment? -
wah.. difficult to count. these angmohs mostly came from netherland, england, germany, america, ireland, south africa, italy etc.. some 1st generations whereas some 2nd generations.Originally posted by Fatum:I'm curious ... what about in australia .... in your current job, how many are native australians, how many are immigrants like yourself ? ...
there are only 3 asians here including myself; one from mauritius, one from hong kong that came at birth and studied to phD, and me.
alot of angmohs but there are afew sri lankans here. -
ya, im out of singapore.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):seriously... what is the point of posting anything?? Singaporean always like to complain this complain that...... which i agree that they have a point....and should complain about all the BS that PAP is giving us... but.... put ur complain into action lah... leave sg or dun vote for them lor.... if not.. then what's the point to complain about something that are not going to change?
just want to backdate my lamentations here.