NS for sporeans, jobs for foreigners
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There use to be grafitti statement here, how true is this and does it reflect the pent up frustration of our working class?
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bravo, i'm loving it
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cos NS is compulsory for singaporean while sg jobs is optional for foreigners...
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Or rather, NS is compulsory for Singaporean males, but hiring Singaporeans is optional for many employers.
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The above quote is true to a certain extent.
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I think sg'lians so enjoying the ns.Originally posted by Catknight:There use to be grafitti statement here, how true is this and does it reflect the pent up frustration of our working class?
that is what differentiates between a PR and a citizen, at least one of the key areas.
a PR is a foreigner who got work here and his employer applies paper work for him and gets that PR status in a very short time. like this, he becomes an employment statistic. steady right?
and everyone seems happy about it. complete supprot. 10 thousand years to dragon son.
knn is not cnn. knn is cb ttk hk liao. -
I still cannot get conformation reply about the thinking thatOriginally posted by Jontst78:Or rather, NS is compulsory for Singaporean males, but hiring Singaporeans is optional for many employers.
a company can just hire Residents who are all PRs and no citizen needed.
Why I say this is,
the employment statistics is given out based on 'RESIDENT's. maybe only 1 or 2 out of a whole company is citizen and the rest are all FTs on EP, WP, SP and PRs. is this not possible?
I witness with my own eyes this situation.
A consultant hailing somewhere down the aisle of the indian ocean floated to sg some years back.
he initially worked here as an FT and then quickly got the PR.
then he got the citizenship. during his work life, he found companies here welcome FTs and like almost no where in this world, virtually, sg seems to provide easiest hiring of foreign workers and foreign workers can be easily be awarded PR just by applying for a common job like a technical position where his boss will also help him apply proving that he is employed here.
So as a new citizen he formed his own company and brought in his army hailing somewhere from the indian ocean. There, he knows, there are many young and experienced people he can get for lower cost than locals. and many there will like to live and work here given the nicer facilities and living environment and best important of all, the access to the USA market (stepping stone, or spring board, as its called).
So, he managed to succeed in his business and even broken into many gubberment projects which are constantly awarded to private sector based on cost and other criterias. so many foreigners work in gubberment projects. Some large consulting companies like titi consulting provided hundreds of FTs.
sg is small and tiny and very very little dot. you can find out what i say is true or not. nothing to hide.
I see this company supplied many many non citizens. Basically all are non citizens.
Thus, I suspect and ask, it seems possible that a company can just hire all FT and then convert them to PR in a few short months or weeks and then compete with locals and never need to hire citizens since sg employment, I not sure if the same elsewhere in the world, is using the magic key word called RESIDENTS where resident is a PR who is acturely a foreigner who just applied for PR and got it in a few short weeks or months by the help of his new immig boss utilizing the EP, SP, and WP.
I not sure lor. So I asking lor. can or not Gazelle?
Gazelle, I support you ok. *wink wink*
(pah signal)
How the come, no one knows how many sg'lians are unemployed? the press shows how many RESIDENTS unemployed but what about sg'lians?
Who is gonna protect sg? who will be the 1st's to be sent to the battlefront when trouble arise? who will be the firsts to sacrifice to protect? (hypothetical scenario only).
I think sg'lians are lucky compared to PRs. PRs need not do service. This honor is reserved for the citizens who will protect them.
wow, what a wonderful world. as you grow older, your experience accumulates but when you reach 40 and above, what happens despite experience increase? HK liao lah. HK HK HK HK HK Liao!
HK liao , HK liao , HK ALL THE Way!!! ( my new jingle). -
Welcome to the international community.
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smart indian guy. for that, i take my hat off to him.Originally posted by reddressman:I still cannot get conformation reply about the thinking that
a company can just hire Residents who are all PRs and no citizen needed.
Why I say this is,
the employment statistics is given out based on 'RESIDENT's. maybe only 1 or 2 out of a whole company is citizen and the rest are all FTs on EP, WP, SP and PRs. is this not possible?
I witness with my own eyes this situation.
A consultant hailing somewhere down the aisle of the indian ocean floated to sg some years back.
he initially worked here as an FT and then quickly got the PR.
then he got the citizenship. during his work life, he found companies here welcome FTs and like almost no where in this world, virtually, sg seems to provide easiest hiring of foreign workers and foreign workers can be easily be awarded PR just by applying for a common job like a technical position where his boss will also help him apply proving that he is employed here.
So as a new citizen he formed his own company and brought in his army hailing somewhere from the indian ocean. There, he knows, there are many young and experienced people he can get for lower cost than locals. and many there will like to live and work here given the nicer facilities and living environment and best important of all, the access to the USA market (stepping stone, or spring board, as its called).
So, he managed to succeed in his business and even broken into many gubberment projects which are constantly awarded to private sector based on cost and other criterias. so many foreigners work in gubberment projects. Some large consulting companies like titi consulting provided hundreds of FTs.
sg is small and tiny and very very little dot. you can find out what i say is true or not. nothing to hide.
I see this company supplied many many non citizens. Basically all are non citizens.
Thus, I suspect and ask, it seems possible that a company can just hire all FT and then convert them to PR in a few short months or weeks and then compete with locals and never need to hire citizens since sg employment, I not sure if the same elsewhere in the world, is using the magic key word called RESIDENTS where resident is a PR who is acturely a foreigner who just applied for PR and got it in a few short weeks or months by the help of his new immig boss utilizing the EP, SP, and WP.
I not sure lor. So I asking lor. can or not Gazelle?
Gazelle, I support you ok. *wink wink* (pah signal)
How the come, no one knows how many sg'lians are unemployed? the press shows how many RESIDENTS unemployed but what about sg'lians?
Who is gonna protect sg? who will be the 1st's to be sent to the battlefront when trouble arise? who will be the firsts to sacrifice to protect? (hypothetical scenario only).
I think sg'lians are lucky compared to PRs. PRs need not do service. This honor is reserved for the citizens who will protect them.
wow, what a wonderful world. as you grow older, your experience accumulates but when you reach 40 and above, what happens despite experience increase? HK liao lah. HK HK HK HK HK Liao!
HK liao , HK liao , HK ALL THE Way!!! ( my new jingle).
he knows how to make use of the opportunities when he sees it. -
Lets say, there is some kind of quota to hire sg'lians.
But as long as this quota is not a high majority , say 65% and above,
there is concern.
Lets say the quota is 40%.
This means in time, if not already, created jobs goes majorly to FT and PRs ?
So, above is assumption that there is quota to be met to hire some citizens at least. what I see is that there is a very strong presence of FTs and PRs that is too big a number and in terms of ratio for a citizen not to be concerned about the situation.
Want things to happen, must do something. No one owes you a living to improve things for you unless you do something about it.
for the last 50 years or so, continuous relentless support .
doon watch CNN so much. Time to KNN! -
seems to me, created jobs have no problem being filled as long as its easy to become a PR.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):cos NS is compulsory for singaporean while sg jobs is optional for foreigners...
A PR is a foreigner who applied through his employer and in a few weeks or months get the cert.
They form the employment statistics.
I wonder the why.
I also wonder why opposites never get the answer for us. if tried but no answer means to me, still no answer get for us.
what is going on???
how smart is a sg'lian? Who is smart enough to know how many citizens are employed or of the created jobs, how many went to citizens?
how smart are you? admit it. -
wats wrong with protecting ur country?
why are u guys not proud? -
haiz somehow it doesnt seem so convincing from someone who did not have to protect the nation...Originally posted by FireIce:wats wrong with protecting ur country?
why are u guys not proud? -
but foreigners is snatching most of the jobs,that's why is hard to find jobs nowaday.
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singaporeans hiam this hiam that this one no want do tt one too low pay tts why "FT" have chance to take up the jobsOriginally posted by siansterr:but foreigners is snatching most of the jobs,that's why is hard to find jobs nowaday. -
its like tasting a kind of forbidden fruit.Originally posted by korusu:haiz somehow it doesnt seem so convincing from someone who did not have to protect the nation...
If one has not done so,
they will never understooding.
its not what it is about.
its the time. -
If only I have a gal that gyrates the hips and butts as well as your animation.Originally posted by FireIce:singaporeans hiam this hiam that this one no want do tt one too low pay tts why "FT" have chance to take up the jobs shake it baby. Shake it real hard. gyrate for me. -
Not only NS. After ROD or ORD whose who are Best A or B will have to face IPPT every year, if you fail , you receive bonus call RT.
I face this IPPT and RT problem through out my 13 years cycle.
Finally in the year 2005 i at last finally MR and really become a civilan.
This is one of my happiest day. -
no leh, me like IPPT go take moneyOriginally posted by sundaytimes:Not only NS. After ROD or ORD whose who are Best A or B will have to face IPPT every year, if you fail , you receive bonus call RT.
I face this IPPT and RT problem through out my 13 years cycle.
Finally in the year 2005 i at last finally MR and really become a civilan.
This is one of my happiest day.
now MR no more money to earn
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