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ComfortDelGro's cab fare changes "fair and timely": Taxi Operators' Associations
By Valarie Tan, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 December 2007 2213 hrs
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• ComfortDelGro overhauls taxi fare structure
• Customers, cabbies voice concerns over likely cab fare hike
• Cabbies feel pinch, seek fare hike
• ComfortDelgro's Q3 profit up 15% to S$59m
SINGAPORE: The Taxi Operators' Associations (TOA) has called ComfortDelGro's latest cab fare review as "fair and timely".
TOA also urged other taxi operators to do the same soon, in light of escalating fuel prices and higher GST.
But not all taxi drivers think the revisions will substantially help offset rising operating costs.
Some commuters also say the new $3 CBD surcharge and ERP rebates will not be a major motivation for more cabs to hit the city area.
"If the customer wants to go, I have no choice. For my own, I won't go," said a taxi driver.
"The fuel (price) goes up, how can you earn more? You cannot earn more," said another.
"If we go into the CBD without passengers, we have to pay at least $1 or $1.50, depending on the time. If there's $3 for the passenger to pay, it's all right," said a third cabby.
"$3 is not that much...By the time they drive into the city, they could have picked up a passenger along the way....(they could have earned) more than $3," said a commuter. - CNA/ir -
bravo, i'm loving it
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will that be part one of two? will it be followed by an adjustment of taxi rentals to deflect rising company operating costs too? hmmm...
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Most likely another Ministerial Pay Hike for job well done, and more challenges to face ahead in increasing costs & transport fares...!
... knn...!!
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comfortdelgro got 15,000 taxis,
if all taxis are rent out everyday,
it could have revenue, 15000*365*80 = 438million...
easy money???
Originally posted by HyperFocal:
[b]ComfortDelGro's cab fare changes "fair and timely": Taxi Operators' Associations
By Valarie Tan, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 December 2007 2213 hrs
Related News
• ComfortDelGro overhauls taxi fare structure
• Customers, cabbies voice concerns over likely cab fare hike
• Cabbies feel pinch, seek fare hike
• ComfortDelgro's Q3 profit up 15% to S$59m
SINGAPORE: The Taxi Operators' Associations (TOA) has called ComfortDelGro's latest cab fare review as "fair and timely".
TOA also urged other taxi operators to do the same soon, in light of escalating fuel prices and higher GST.
But not all taxi drivers think the revisions will substantially help offset rising operating costs.
Some commuters also say the new $3 CBD surcharge and ERP rebates will not be a major motivation for more cabs to hit the city area.
"If the customer wants to go, I have no choice. For my own, I won't go," said a taxi driver.
"The fuel (price) goes up, how can you earn more? You cannot earn more," said another.
"If we go into the CBD without passengers, we have to pay at least $1 or $1.50, depending on the time. If there's $3 for the passenger to pay, it's all right," said a third cabby.
"$3 is not that much...By the time they drive into the city, they could have picked up a passenger along the way....(they could have earned) more than $3," said a commuter. - CNA/ir
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nice nice.. now wats the next move they gonna take? more hikes?
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[quote]Originally posted by HyperFocal:
[b]ComfortDelGro's cab fare changes "fair and timely": Taxi Operators' Associations
By Valarie Tan, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 December 2007 2213 hrs
Where are the lies?
The fare increase does not go to the taxi companies but to cabbies who have been burdened by high fuel prices for quite a few years. Since oil prices started to escalate a few years ago, super-profits-earning SIA is allowed to levy fuel surcharge on its passengers but the humble cabbies have to bear the increase themselves.
While this fare revision might help cabbies cope with increasing oil price and higher GST, it is too early to tell if it will actually benefit cabbies. Higher fare could put off passengers and cabbies could be cruising around without any passenger for most part of the day. -
They should remove the petrol taxes of around $0.40 / litre for diesel used by public transport system.
It does not make sense when the government provides "public" transport, then they charge diesel tax for it.
They make profits from the public transport service they provide to commuters, then they make another $0.40 /litre for taxes used by these buses.
Maybe the idea of government privatising these public transport companies is to make more money out of commuters?
If the government is not providing these public transports, it doesn't link itself directly to these companies. So commuters can't blame government if fare prices escalate. -
Originally posted by pearlie27:
Yes.... higher fare = less customer = LPPL for cabbies.... no pay increment lah....
[quote]Originally posted by HyperFocal:
[b][b]ComfortDelGro's cab fare changes "fair and timely": Taxi Operators' Associations
By Valarie Tan, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 December 2007 2213 hrs
Where are the lies?
The fare increase does not go to the taxi companies but to cabbies who have been burdened by high fuel prices for quite a few years. Since oil prices started to escalate a few years ago, super-profits-earning SIA is allowed to levy fuel surcharge on its passengers but the humble cabbies have to bear the increase themselves.
While this fare revision might help cabbies cope with increasing oil price and higher GST, it is too early to tell if it will actually benefit cabbies. Higher fare could put off passengers and cabbies could be cruising around without any passenger for most part of the day.[/b]
If the gov really wanna help, they can just reduce the road tax, and the cab company reduce rent. Customer stay the same, cabbies can earn more to balance off the rising cost. But the aint going to happen and we all know why.
Fuel goes up, gov earn more $$ from fuel tax. (Me think)
cabbies bad business, cab company still take in same amount of rent. So in the long run who benefits? When the so call adjustment is meant to help the cabbies. But lucky for them, s'porean are forgetful bunch.... soon.. they still carry on paying.... sigh... such is live in this small red dot... -
Erm. Diesel tax was meant to put diesel(back then a ridiculous pollutant) out of reach of the average car owner. The fact that despite the tax, it is still the cheaper alternative for transport owners who consume tons of fuel is testament to the fact that the government is not overtaxing.Originally posted by maurizio13:They should remove the petrol taxes of around $0.40 / litre for diesel used by public transport system.
It does not make sense when the government provides "public" transport, then they charge diesel tax for it.
They make profits from the public transport service they provide to commuters, then they make another $0.40 /litre for taxes used by these buses.
Maybe the idea of government privatising these public transport companies is to make more money out of commuters?
If the government is not providing these public transports, it doesn't link itself directly to these companies. So commuters can't blame government if fare prices escalate.
You cannot take every single thing the government does and criticize it in a completely different context. -
Yes, they should reduce the cab rental afterall the cost of vehicle has dropped. COE has come down and the lifespan of taxi has also been extended. Taxi companies should rightly pass all these savings to cabbies but they are not.Originally posted by EarlNeo:Yes.... higher fare = less customer = LPPL for cabbies.... no pay increment lah....
If the gov really wanna help, they can just reduce the road tax, and the cab company reduce rent. Customer stay the same, cabbies can earn more to balance off the rising cost. But the aint going to happen and we all know why.
Fuel goes up, gov earn more $$ from fuel tax. (Me think)
cabbies bad business, cab company still take in same amount of rent. So in the long run who benefits? When the so call adjustment is meant to help the cabbies. But lucky for them, s'porean are forgetful bunch.... soon.. they still carry on paying.... sigh... such is live in this small red dot...
Anyway, i doubt the fare adjustment is to help the cabbies cope with soaring operating costs. Didn't ComfortDelgro said that it is to better meet supply and demand? And didn't some tourists complain that they have to wait for more than a hour for a cab? -
Correct. But we are not stupid, we all know that these public transport companies are GLC.Originally posted by maurizio13:If the government is not providing these public transports, it doesn't link itself directly to these companies. So commuters can't blame government if fare prices escalate. -
Without the tax it would be even cheaper!Originally posted by deathbait:Erm. Diesel tax was meant to put diesel(back then a ridiculous pollutant) out of reach of the average car owner. The fact that despite the tax, it is still the cheaper alternative for transport owners who consume tons of fuel is testament to the fact that the government is not overtaxing.
Btw do we have any other viable choice? -
deathbait, read up on the latest Euro VI diesel standards and tell me if these are grounds for a pollution tax.
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Cabbies feel the pinch so we are in for fare hike. What crap is this! We feel the pinch so shall we all just kick PAP out and vote for the opposition?
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Some perverse logic... So you expect diesel vehicles to use water to power their vehicles?Originally posted by deathbait:The fact that despite the tax, it is still the cheaper alternative for transport owners who consume tons of fuel is testament to the fact that the government is not overtaxing.
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Did you know diesel vehicles have to pay 6 times*road tax as additional diesel tax
If the road tax for a petrol car is $1200 a year, a diesel vehicle of similar capacity has to pay an additional diesel tax of $7200 per year on top of road tax. -
You mean these days there are private cars running on diesel?Originally posted by deathbait:Erm. Diesel tax was meant to put diesel(back then a ridiculous pollutant) out of reach of the average car owner. The fact that despite the tax, it is still the cheaper alternative for transport owners who consume tons of fuel is testament to the fact that the government is not overtaxing.
You cannot take every single thing the government does and criticize it in a completely different context.
Which private car in the market runs on diesel in Singapore? Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes?
FYI, I don't criticise everything and anything about the government, only those policies which are overbearing and tyrannical.
Does it make sense?
The government places a tax on diesel (which is meant for use by public transport), sells these diesel to public transport companies (government linked companies). Then these companies need to make up for the cost of the diesel tax, charges consumers more for fares to cover the cost of the diesel + diesel tax, then adds a premium so that they can generate healthy profits.
At the end of the day, the government makes from the diesel tax (meant for public transport) and profits from fares paid by consumers. -
4 times if it meets Euro IV emissions standards (which excludes the older Crown and Cedric taxis)Originally posted by kilua:Did you know diesel vehicles have to pay 6 times*road tax as additional diesel tax
If the road tax for a petrol car is $1200 a year, a diesel vehicle of similar capacity has to pay an additional diesel tax of $7200 per year on top of road tax.
If I read correctly in the current edition of Torque, diesel is not taxed, unlike petrol.Originally posted by maurizio13:You mean these days there are private cars running on diesel?
Which private car in the market runs on diesel in Singapore? Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes?
FYI, I don't criticise everything and anything about the government, only those policies which are overbearing and tyrannical.
Does it make sense?
The government places a tax on diesel (which is meant for use by public transport), sells these diesel to public transport companies (government linked companies). Then these companies need to make up for the cost of the diesel tax, charges consumers more for fares to cover the cost of the diesel + diesel tax, then adds a premium so that they can generate healthy profits.
At the end of the day, the government makes from the diesel tax (meant for public transport) and profits from fares paid by consumers. -
Aiya we have being lied for so many years la. Just take it easy.
The Government can do whatever they want, whatever they like. Suit them.
Similiarly, the taxi companies, SMRT, SBS...
Although they are known as public transport, providing serivce to Singaporeans is not their interest. Profit is. -
I just verified, there is no diesel excise duties.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:If I read correctly in the current edition of Torque, diesel is not taxed, unlike petrol.
I misinterpreted "other motor spirits" as diesel in the customs website.
But there is still the diesel tax. -
Seems that anything under PAP exist for the sake of profit making more than serving the public.Originally posted by Spartans:Aiya we have being lied for so many years la. Just take it easy.
The Government can do whatever they want, whatever they like. Suit them.
Similiarly, the taxi companies, SMRT, SBS...
Although they are known as public transport, providing serivce to Singaporeans is not their interest. Profit is.
There is still hope, encourage people not to vote for PAP. -
Yah.Originally posted by Spartans:Aiya we have being lied for so many years la. Just take it easy.
The Government can do whatever they want, whatever they like. Suit them.
Similiarly, the taxi companies, SMRT, SBS...
Although they are known as public transport, providing serivce to Singaporeans is not their interest. Profit is.
Government makes from diesel tax imposed on public transport companies, these so called public transport companies have to make good on those taxes by charging commuters higher fares. -
Famous PAP(or is it Lee?) quote : We run Singapore like a company and not like a nation.Originally posted by qlqq9:Seems that anything under PAP exist for the sake of profit making more than serving the public.
There is still hope, encourage people not to vote for PAP.
so can anyone tell me the main(if not sole) objective of a company? -
Companies don't exist for altruism, their sole motive is generating large profits.Originally posted by Spartans:Famous PAP(or is it Lee?) quote : We run Singapore like a company and not like a nation.
so can anyone tell me the main(if not sole) objective of a company? -
Run the country like a company to meet their selfish desires. No wonder these despots have no conscience.Originally posted by Spartans:Famous PAP(or is it Lee?) quote : We run Singapore like a company and not like a nation.
so can anyone tell me the main(if not sole) objective of a company?
To increase $$$ to solve problems is not a good solution at all. INcreasing price is just a lame excuse for them to earn more money out of the nation.
Please do yourself a favour, people, please don't vote for them.