something for lionnoisy to chew on....
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Down UnderÂ… Australia posted another strong labor report in November adding 52.6K jobs, marking the longest run of jobs growth in more than 27 years! While this is good news for the people looking for jobs, and the economyÂ… It's bad news for future wage inflation pressures. There are actually job shortages in Australia, which gives the present workers the hammer when it comes to wage negotiations. I'm sure the Reserve Bank is watching this carefully, and looking for the right time to raise rates again to combat these inflationary pressures.http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Writers/Butler/Articles/121307.html
Wide open spaces (Singaporeans should be compensated and not punished for the lack of wide open spaces), cheap housing, medical care and .... there are actually job shortages in Australia... meaning an abundance of jobs... and real wage negotiations... meaning real wage increases
I wonder what the running dogs of the despots have to say about that? -
... I am not saying that Singaporeans should move to Australia but this is what Singapore should be like... and the way to do it is to stop the despots!
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indeed, i get alot of calls asking if im keen to be their perm oracle dba. i politely decline and will still continue on to work as a dba contractor in hope i can spread my skills out more to support the IT depts here that demand my skillset.
im so happy that my IT skills is in demand here.. cant say the same when i was in sg. -
.. and I understand that you get good and fair wages instead of in Singapore where the despots are constantly trying their best to push wages down and increase their own obscene salaries and the obscene profits of the GLCs...Originally posted by fishbuff:indeed, i get alot of calls asking if im keen to be their perm oracle dba. i politely decline and will still continue on to work as a dba contractor in hope i can spread my skills out more to support the IT depts here that demand my skillset.
im so happy that my IT skills is in demand here.. cant say the same when i was in sg. -
well, if u take away the element of politics from your daily lives, things are not that bad. The business and income tax are low, streets are safe, infrastructure is excellent, and heaps of companies and business entities are there for u to deal business with.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:.. and I understand that you get good and fair wages instead of in Singapore where the despots are constantly trying their best to push wages down and increase their own obscene salaries and the obscene profits of the GLCs...
there are some downsides particularly around stress, FT displacement in your profession, ageism etc.. but ultimately it is up to you to manage your expectation.
question is; do u wish to live a better life and be ignorant to the politics? or be politically aware and live a frustrated live? if i come back to sg, i shall live like a foreigner and ignore all form of sg politics. our sanity is alot more important than all these helpless frustrations. -
... I am more interested in comparing your wages over there and here...
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Pay increase again mah. Only not for us loh. Auto increase for 4-21% for the politicians already in force. Already know LHL will push through the 83% pay hike for themselves one mah. Only now its spread out over 2-3 years
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Wahlau...the President of Singapore will earn $10,602 each day in 2008...what does he really do?
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...he was director of ISD... it is not what he is doing but what he did... you add 1 + 1 yourself...Originally posted by Kachui:Wahlau...the President of Singapore will earn $10,602 each day in 2008...what does he really do?Among the Singapore officials was the then Director of Security & Intelligence Division, Mr S R Nathan (now the President of Singapore).
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I really think now that study well and then joining the gov is really an attractive career pathOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap: -
... sure but at the same time, stop the despots before they destroy Singapore...
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ah.. but my kind of job in sg has been displaced by FTs. top it off with ageism and FT managers tat like to hire their own, it is impossible to find new jobs with good pay.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... I am more interested in comparing your wages over there and here...
to get a gauge of how much the jobs in Oz pay, go to www.seekit.com.au -
May not agree fully with that, they are not destroying it but just making life very difficult for most people living in it.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... sure but at the same time, stop the despots before they destroy Singapore... -
provided you become president scholarOriginally posted by justcooler:I really think now that study well and then joining the gov is really an attractive career path -
... some of their policies.... especially those that get people indebted to drive economic growth... can cause very serious problems for the sake of the rich, themselves and their cronies...Originally posted by justcooler:May not agree fully with that, they are not destroying it but just making life very difficult for most people living in it.
...most people do not see the danger because it becomes dangerous only when there is a trigger...
... it is like, if you play with fire, it does not necessarily mean that you will burn the house down but why play with fire?
... in the despot's case, they play with fire to benefit themselves, the rich and their cronies... -
actually I think they take care of the civil service people rather well... it is the pte sector people that they are bent on reducing the wages.... and driving up rentals (for example) to benefit the rich at the expense of the companies and their employees...Originally posted by mistyblue:provided you become president scholar -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
I'm guessing somewhere along the lines of "This is Singapore, not Australia".
Wide open spaces (Singaporeans should be compensated and not punished for the lack of wide open spaces), cheap housing, medical care and .... [b]there are actually job shortages in Australia... meaning an abundance of jobs... and real wage negotiations... meaning real wage increases
I wonder what the running dogs of the despots have to say about that?[/b]
What, just because Singapore has a lack of space, we should all be compensated? What twisted logic is that. Compensated by who? -
As twisted as the grass on the other side is always greener. Although I am already on the "other side" , the grass in Singapore still looks a tad yellowish.Originally posted by deathbait:I'm guessing somewhere along the lines of "This is Singapore, not Australia".
What, just because Singapore has a lack of space, we should all be compensated? What twisted logic is that. Compensated by who? -
how much are their taxes on your pay?Originally posted by fishbuff:ah.. but my kind of job in sg has been displaced by FTs. top it off with ageism and FT managers tat like to hire their own, it is impossible to find new jobs with good pay.
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Great !mates.
I dunt ask you to stay in SG nor dunt migrate to any country.
I am sick of people who just tell the good stuff about western
countries,like u are sick of me telling the bright sides of
SG.
Just do the home work.Think if your advisers any conflict of interests.
And Just do it.....
Congra the pay is higher there,How about the tax and dunt forget
the mortgage rates.It will eat the payment increment u expecting;
au.pfinance.yahoo.com
eg u pay interest 3.5% pa in SG and 7.3% in Oz.
For A$200,000,each year u have to pay about A$8000 more
interest.about A$650 pm.
How much u earn in Oz and what is the pay increment than SG?
2.Anyway,there are many factors u need to consider?
If u cant do well in a country u are familiar,are u sure
u can do well in a new place.
3.your mortgage.com.au -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Urm ...they have something called salary sacrifice and alot of employers use it to entice workers. It is legal and basically it takes out of your earnings before ATO eats your tax for lunch. It can save a person who earns 52k+ per year , at least 4-6k in tax alone.
Great !mates.
I dunt ask you to stay in SG nor dunt migrate to any country.
I am sick of people who just tell the good stuff about western
countries,like u are sick of me telling the bright sides of
SG.
Just do the home work.Think if your advisers any conflict of interests.
And Just do it.....
Congra the pay is higher there,How about the tax and dunt forget
the mortgage rates.It will eat the payment increment u expecting;
[b]au.pfinance.yahoo.com
That is if you choose to pay it off slowly . Most people push more money into their mortgages to remove the debt.
eg u pay interest 3.5% pa in SG and 7.3% in Oz.
For A$200,000,each year u have to pay about A$8000 more
interest.about A$650 pm.
God blessed certified agreements. They pay overtime if you are employed under a certified agreement. They also agree on pay increments over the time period of a certified agreement . My current employer increases the salaries by 4.25% per year til the end of 2010 when they start negotiating pay increments again.
How much u earn in Oz and what is the pay increment than SG?
You should see our leave benefits ...hahaha damn shiok.
of course , if someone asks you to sign an AWA for more money - you don't.
I am doing fine in a country I was not too familiar with . Thanks for your concern.
2.Anyway,there are many factors u need to consider?
If u cant do well in a country u are familiar,are u sure
u can do well in a new place.
3.your mortgage.com.au[/b]
Wait don' t tell me that you want to pay 350k for a rundown halfway-thru-99 year lease 3 room flat. Ok lor , your choice. -
I am really curious to know why local want to migrate to Australia or Canada despite the higher interest rate? It could be due to intangible benefits.
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Smart people adapt... and do very well especially after they have gone through the Singapore system... here it is like a pressure cooker without commensurate pay because of a compliant NTUC....Originally posted by fymk:I am doing fine in a country I was not too familiar with . Thanks for your concern. -
Something Lionnoisy can't see. All he/she sees is WHOA my money!Originally posted by will4:I am really curious to know why local want to migrate to Australia or Canada despite the higher interest rate? It could be due to intangible benefits.
There are some Singaporean students doing the mindless paper chase - when asked why do a degree - the answer mostly is "earn more money". Money seems to surround everything in Singapore . If you don't already notice, there are some Singaporeans even in this forum who define success by how much you earn and how much you own.
It's just freaky. I can speak to 10 Singaporeans and 6 are guaranteed to tell me that their study is geared towards monetary rewards only, not interest.
Sometimes people migrate for another reason - opportunities which Singapore unfortunately does not have. Be it career, economic, academic or even lifestyle opportunities. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/12333.htm
Great !mates.
I dunt ask you to stay in SG nor dunt migrate to any country.
I am sick of people who just tell the good stuff about western
countries,like u are sick of me telling the bright sides of
SG.
Just do the home work.Think if your advisers any conflict of interests.
And Just do it.....
Congra the pay is higher there,How about the tax and dunt forget
the mortgage rates.It will eat the payment increment u expecting;
[b]au.pfinance.yahoo.com
eg u pay interest 3.5% pa in SG and 7.3% in Oz.
For A$200,000,each year u have to pay about A$8000 more
interest.about A$650 pm.
How much u earn in Oz and what is the pay increment than SG?
2.Anyway,there are many factors u need to consider?
If u cant do well in a country u are familiar,are u sure
u can do well in a new place.
3.your mortgage.com.au[/b]
tax info is here.
each country has its own strength and weakness so we can debate until the cows come home. but ultimately, it is up to individual to make their own choice and their type of living lifestyle.
i know u are patriotic now as you are young, but wait.. wait till u reach 40 years old and working in the private sector and have a family to raise, then u try to reflect on what have said now. i know coz i went thru that phase before..