Now KL angry with catholics!
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Catholic weekly in quandary over permit
Dec 20, 07 12:52pm
The government is not happy with the use of the word ‘Allah’ when referring to ‘God’ in the weekly’s Bahasa Malaysia section
The organ of the Catholic Church, Herald is facing problems in renewing its yearly publishing permit allegedly over the use of the word ‘Allah’ in the weekly’s Bahasa Malaysia section. -
Now become religous copyright issue
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So? If a disco decides to name itself as Jesus NightClub Slave, would you be angry??Originally posted by Catknight:Now become religous copyright issue -
strangely
in singapore, it would probably be the MUIS who would be taking up the issue, if they want to take up the issue
in malaysia, its the government
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The thing is during the middle ages..the word Allah is used by the christians too in the middle east so catholics thought they canuse too mah...
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in malaysia mostly muslim wad ..
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The best follow US style in God we trust....
All the abhramic god the same from middle east..yahweh..elohim..allah...the words different but it under one God lah... -
The use of ‘Allah’ outside of Islam has previously stirred controversies in Malaysia. Four years ago, the Bible in Iban language was banned because it translated the word ‘God’ as Allah Taala, which resembles Islam’s name for God, ‘Allah’.
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sigh
dont be so sensitive can
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Actually I thought KL will be happy catholic use allah too....sigh
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aiyoh, like that also cannot.
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Hey friend...... Their Country their pattern lah. They could do what they want there. Just be thankful you don't live there lor.
Or you could always move abroad to the next country of your dreams...... -
Their pattern got no good sense at all.
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ASEAN under one God we trust like USA liao
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then wad abt free thinkers?Originally posted by Catknight:ASEAN under one God we trust like USA liao -
Wait a minute.....
I thought S'poreans are mainly MONEY Worshipper.....
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Muslims do not seem to realize that many non-muslims have become muslims and not as heretic as they believe.
Currently many Muslims were from other religions because of such a thing called personal communication between believer and god or allah. Many non-muslim Chinese too and other races have no inhibition to be converted to muslims based on their own personal communication with god. So by the same token or common sense muslims should not become paranoid by raising issue of their own believers converting to other religions for the same reason - personal experience with god or Allah.
Surely it is in every one's interest to encourage muslims to moderate and continue to be broadminded and reject the extremist from jihad and finally accept any inroad made by other religions like the catholics into their own religion.
Moderation as slowly evolving by the modern Arabs of Saudi Arabia will have to gain momentum and demonstrate to the rest of muslim world as the more acceptable direction to take for their muslim religion. -
wow well said roberteh
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There is nothing wrong with using the word Allah. It's just an arabic word for God.
Malaysians will be Malaysians. Pricks -
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Christianity and Islam are two religious that tend to over-react. But I will give them some benefit of the doubt, seeing how huge the religious are; when a forest is big, you get all kinds of birds living in it.
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Agree... But the deep seated insecurities of many conservative muslims and a reflex rejection of anything the deem to be "western" or "liberal" will hinder such efforts.Originally posted by robertteh:Muslims do not seem to realize that many non-muslims have become muslims and not as heretic as they believe.
Currently many Muslims were from other religions because of such a thing called personal communication between believer and god or allah. Many non-muslim Chinese too and other races have no inhibition to be converted to muslims based on their own personal communication with god. So by the same token or common sense muslims should not become paranoid by raising issue of their own believers converting to other religions for the same reason - personal experience with god or Allah.
Surely it is in every one's interest to encourage muslims to moderate and continue to be broadminded and reject the extremist from jihad and finally accept any inroad made by other religions like the catholics into their own religion.
Moderation as slowly evolving by the modern Arabs of Saudi Arabia will have to gain momentum and demonstrate to the rest of muslim world as the more acceptable direction to take for their muslim religion.
How can u progress when the very concept of progress is deemed to be "western" and therefore, haram.
One thing that DEFINITELY hinders the development of progressive thought in Islam is USA's clumsy efforts at supporting "moderates". The problem is that any such "moderate" candidates immediately risks becoming seen as a western puppet and becomes a walking figure-11 for extremists.
Read properly, Islam itself is an very progressive theology with extremely lively discourses who at some points in history, far exceeded Christian Europe in intellectual vibrancy, scientific progress, religious tolerance and social organisation. -
well said are u moslem?Originally posted by CX:Agree... But the deep seated insecurities of many conservative muslims and a reflex rejection of anything the deem to be "western" or "liberal" will hinder such efforts.
How can u progress when the very concept of progress is deemed to be "western" and therefore, haram.
One thing that DEFINITELY hinders the development of progressive thought in Islam is USA's clumsy efforts at supporting "moderates". The problem is that any such "moderate" candidates immediately risks becoming seen as a western puppet and becomes a walking figure-11 for extremists.
Read properly, Islam itself is an very progressive theology with extremely lively discourses who at some points in history, far exceeded Christian Europe in intellectual vibrancy, scientific progress, religious tolerance and social organisation.
Many scholars who has positive views of islam and write books about them are not,I wonder why they dun convert if they view islam highly -
Nope... Just one who enjoys reading about history of religions and current affairsOriginally posted by Catknight:well said are u moslem?
Many scholars who has positive views of islam and write books about them are not,I wonder why they dun convert if they view islam highly 
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I think the 4 sunni schools seriously needed a revamp..and no one dare to go into it not even top moslem scholars..so wait for return of christ loh...only he can get the pendulum swinging again
