Will Israel be peaceful in 2008?

• Timmay

  2 Jan 08, 19:53

  Do these Arab women required to remove their veils when passing through other non-Muslim nations' immigration counters?

  Of course
  
  How does the immigrant officer check whether there's a discrepancy
  
  Between the passport photo and the face
  
  If the veil isn't removed?
  
  But they'd most likely to so in a private room so no man can see her face
  
  
  
• protonhybrid

  2 Jan 08, 20:17

  Originally posted by Catknight:

  It's true christian crusaders have done atrocities in the past but the teaching of christ did not prompt them to do so for moslem it's the opposite..they did exactly what the koran and hadiths ordered them to do..that's the difference

  for reference
• Catknight

  2 Jan 08, 20:27

  Egypt alexandria used to be a christain country, and other country Persia zoroastrian faith...many middle eastern countires have huge christian and jewish populace..before advent of islam...wonder where are they now??
  
  Dhimmitude policies ...killed or subjugation by paying poll tax accepting inferior position...this is the way..
• Spartans

  2 Jan 08, 20:32

  Originally posted by Catknight:

  Egypt alexandria used to be a christain country, and other country Persia zoroastrian faith...many middle eastern countires have huge christian and jewish populace..before advent of islam...wonder where are they now??
  
  Dhimmitude policies ...killed or subjugation by paying poll tax accepting inferior position...this is the way..

  Mass convertion after the Muslim Arabs defeated the Persian Empire.
• Timmay

  2 Jan 08, 20:38

  :Originally posted by Catknight:
  It's true christian crusaders have done atrocities in the past but the teaching of christ did not prompt them to do so for moslem it's the opposite..they did exactly what the koran and hadiths ordered them to do..that's the difference

  for reference

  What's your point?
• protonhybrid

  2 Jan 08, 20:56

  Originally posted by Catknight:

  Egypt alexandria used to be a christain country, and other country Persia zoroastrian faith...many middle eastern countires have huge christian and jewish populace..before advent of islam...wonder where are they now??
  
  Dhimmitude policies ...killed or subjugation by paying poll tax accepting inferior position...this is the way..

  are you a christian by any chance? nothing against christianity. but christians that make "europe" in itself is a fanatic act.
  how did "europe" become christian? romans converted under swords.
  let's talk about european civilizations' beacon, the ancient greeks. alexander, socrates, plato et al were evidently not christians.
  what happened under romans? forced christianity? what happened under turks? greeks - are they muslims yet after 4 centuries of turkish rule? what about most of balkans? what about india?
  
  how did indonesia world's largest muslim country become muslim? how did usa and brazil world's two largest christian countries become christians? heck how did 4 out of world's six inhabited continents become predominantly christian namely australia, south america, north america, "europe"?
  
  some foods for thought.
  
  lol lol lol
  
  
• protonhybrid

  2 Jan 08, 20:57

  also can i get some sources for catknights' claim that egypt was predominantly christian.
  
• protonhybrid

  2 Jan 08, 21:01

  Originally posted by Catknight:

  All this is being funded by petro dollars..before they are weak they can't do it...now they are stronger and everywhere due to globalization..God help us....elapse of centurioes of jihad global movement has make us forgoteen this old foe

  again showing signs of barbaric tendencies? you said you were from holland it doesn't sound like that? where do you actually hail from?
  
  
• protonhybrid

  2 Jan 08, 21:08

  Israel will never be peaceful for the simple reason it doesn't exist legally nor does it deserve to exist. stealing looting murdering isn't civilized behaviour. Of course there's an eery resemblance to bunch of workers coming from a certain nation settling in asean countries, and specifically making one such nation so badly 'infested' with them, that they got their own red dot for their independent nation.
  
  britain which also played a part in illegal b@stard nation israel's creation played a part in this red dot's creation too. natives aren't the ones who aren't in majority, yet some of those fanatics from that group have the gall to even criticize or malign the very community, ethnic groups, religions, cultures etc that provided alms to these beggars to settle in asean region i nfirst place.
  
  
• Timmay

  2 Jan 08, 21:12

  
  

  also can i get some sources for catknights' claim that egypt was predominantly christian.

  I like Wikipedia
  
  

  The Arab-Muslim conquest of Egypt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Christianity#The_Arab-Muslim_conquest_of_Egypt
  
  The Muslim conquest of Egypt took place in AD 639. Despite the political upheaval, Egypt remained a mainly Christian land. However, the gradual conversions to Islam over the centuries changed Egypt from a Christian to a largely Muslim country by the end of the 12th century.

  Here's another source http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/countries/bl_EgyptArabConquest.htm
  
  

  The conquest of the country by the armies of Islam under the command of the Muslim hero, Amr ibn al As, transformed Egypt from a predominantly Christian country to a Muslim country in which the Arabic language and culture were adopted even by those who clung to their Christian or Jewish faiths.

  So...
  
  It used to be a predominant Christian country
  
  Before becoming a Muslim one
  
• Timmay

  2 Jan 08, 21:16

  
  

  :Originally posted by Catknight:
  All this is being funded by petro dollars..before they are weak they can't do it...now they are stronger and everywhere due to globalization..God help us....elapse of centurioes of jihad global movement has make us forgoteen this old foe

  again showing signs of barbaric tendencies? you said you were from holland it doesn't sound like that? where do you actually hail from?
  
  Protonhybrid
  
  You sure what Catknight said
  
  Relate to signs of barbaric tendencies?
  
  I suggest you rub your eyes
  
  Your statement is simply ridiculous
• Spartans

  2 Jan 08, 21:24

  Originally posted by protonhybrid:

  Israel will never be peaceful for the simple reason it doesn't exist legally nor does it deserve to exist. stealing looting murdering isn't civilized behaviour. Of course there's an eery resemblance to bunch of workers coming from a certain nation settling in asean countries, and specifically making one such nation so badly 'infested' with them, that they got their own red dot for their independent nation.
  
  

  Are u referring to Singapore?
  
  You seem to have a big problem with Singapore is it? Whenever the topics are about Middle Eastern affairs, you love to drag Singapore in and criticize Singaporeans. Who do you think you are? Guess you are a Arab male or Malaysia Malay. U are just one pathetic ignoramus indulging in your own anti-Western and anti-Singapore mindset.
• Timmay

  2 Jan 08, 21:33

  Israel will never be peaceful for the simple reason it doesn't exist legally nor does it deserve to exist. stealing looting murdering isn't civilized behaviour. Of course there's an eery resemblance to bunch of workers coming from a certain nation settling in asean countries, and specifically making one such nation so badly 'infested' with them, that they got their own red dot for their independent nation.

  You saying Israel is like Singapore?
  
  I guess a little
  
  At least the few hundred natives didn't resort to violence
  
  To chase the immigrants out
  
  From your tone, you sir, are filled with hatred for this little red dot huh?
  
  Or is it simply jealousy since your country cannot be a success story
  
  Like this little poisonous dot called Singapore is?
  
  

  britain which also played a part in illegal b@stard nation israel's creation played a part in this red dot's creation too. natives aren't the ones who aren't in majority, yet some of those fanatics from that group have the gall to even criticize or malign the very community, ethnic groups, religions, cultures etc that provided alms to these beggars to settle in asean region i nfirst place.

  Haha
  
  Yup
  
  Raffles founded Singapore
  
  Protonhybrid
  
  Your tone is so full of hatred
  
  Is it because of stress from work or school?
  
  I also experience it everyday
  
  Grab some beer
  
  And chill man
  
  We are neighbours after all
  
  As the Christians say, 'Love thy neighbour as thyself'
  
  
  
  
• thehappybunny

  2 Jan 08, 21:38

  Originally posted by protonhybrid:
  Israel will never be peaceful for the simple reason it doesn't exist legally nor does it deserve to exist. stealing looting murdering isn't civilized behaviour.
  
  

  so tell me.
  
  who sold Palestinian land to the Jews pre-1948?
  
  Ben-Gurion?
  Golda Meir?
  Tom Hanks?
  
  
• Poh Ah Pak

  2 Jan 08, 22:13

  I find it offending that you typed "Israel is also hostile"
  
  When it should have been 'was'
  

  Why "was"?
  
  Israel admits air strike on Syria
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7024287.stm
  
  

  It's true christian crusaders have done atrocities in the past but the teaching of christ did not prompt them to do so for moslem it's the opposite..they did exactly what the koran and hadiths ordered them to do..that's the difference

  Onwards Christian Soldiers!
  http://old.exile.ru/2002-June-26/war_nerd.html
• Catknight

  2 Jan 08, 23:31

  I;m sick of moslems taqqiya double talk that say theirs is a religion of peace..it not..it's a political ideology..why not just say it...??
• qlqq9

  2 Jan 08, 23:37

  Israel or rather the countries around her have never have peace all these years.
• Timmay

  3 Jan 08, 01:11

  Israel admits air strike on Syria
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7024287.stm

  The attack was aimed at a suspected nuclear reactor
  
  Capable of producing nuclear weapons
  
  So instead of waiting for them to produce EVEN 1
  
  It had to launch a pre-emptive strike
  
  Like it did in 1981, when Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq
  
  It cannot allow its enemies to get hold of even 1 nuclear weapon!
  
  

  Why "was"?

  Maybe I should rephrase from
  
  

  I find it offending that you typed "Israel is also hostile"

  To
  
  Israel is hostile to any countries that threatens its existence
  
  Same for any countries
  
  

  Israel or rather the countries around her have never have peace all these years.

  I agree that countries around Israel will never have peace as long as they threaten its survival
  
  Even if the country doesn't want war with Israel but a group within it tries to snuff it out
  
  A terrorist group that its own government couldn't control
  
  Like the Hezbollah who used southern Lebonan as a base
  
  To harrass the Israelis
  
  And hence, the latter had to go to war when the group
  
  Killed 8 soldiers and kidnapped 2 soldiers
  
  Like Singapore
  
  If Malaysia or a group within it that does something that threatens Singapore's survival
  
  Like cutting off the our main water supply
  
  A pre-emptive strike would be launched
  
  Singapore's military doctrine is that of defence
  
  It doesn't mean we defend in Singapore
  
  But for eg if the Malaysians attacked us(*peace*)
  
  We'd take over Johore and attack/defend from there
  
  We don't have any land buffers against enemy attacks
  
  And are all squeezed like sardines
  
  So it is therefore important to create a defence buffer
  
  By taking over your enemies' territories
  
  

  Onwards Christian Soldiers!
  http://old.exile.ru/2002-June-26/war_nerd.html

  Its a terrible source!
  
  Its tone is lob-sided
  
  But I'd refute it anyway...
  
  In one of the pictures
  
  It says that Christian missionaries are war provocation
  
  O you mean people whom the Abu Sayyaf Group
  
  A violent terrorist group
  
  Involved in carried out bombings, kidnappings, assassinations, rapes and extortion
  
  Kidnapped; Gracia Burnham and her husband Martin
  
  So missionaries are cause for war provocation, huh?
  
  Thing is, there wasn't even a war!
  
  It was a deliberate act of kidnapping for RANSOM
  
  To finance their terror acts!
  
  Regarding the evil Christian leaders and gang
  
  I admit that their evil lot
  
  At least find some numbers like how many they have killed
  
  Even then
  
  Be sensible and compare it to the number of people
  
  Evil Muslim leaders and gang have killed in using
  
  Blar blar blar blar *Same old tactics*
  
  Allah Ackbar anyone?
  
• Catknight

  3 Jan 08, 01:27

  The muslims are very united in their cause which is to bring the whole world under sharia laws..either by force or demographics..look at lebanon a christian country played out by their own muslims now Lebanon is in a mess...
  
  The only dominant christian state in middle east which used to be Paris now turn to a state of emergency thanks to the religion of peace
• Catknight

  3 Jan 08, 01:33

  Originally posted by Timmay:
  
  
  again showing signs of [b]barbaric tendencies? you said you were from holland it doesn't sound like that? where do you actually hail from?
  
  Protonhybrid
  
  You sure what Catknight said
  
  Relate to signs of barbaric tendencies?
  
  I suggest you rub your eyes
  
  Your statement is simply ridiculous[/b]

  I support Israel cause they are our friend during the sixties when they train us to defend ourself when we declare independence.When your friend helps you when you are down , you can't ignore them
• googoomuck

  3 Jan 08, 06:10

  Originally posted by protonhybrid:

  Israel will never be peaceful for the simple reason it doesn't exist legally nor does it deserve to exist. stealing looting murdering isn't civilized behaviour. Of course there's an eery resemblance to bunch of workers coming from a certain nation settling in asean countries, and specifically making one such nation so badly 'infested' with them, that they got their own red dot for their independent nation.
  
  britain which also played a part in illegal b@stard nation israel's creation played a part in this red dot's creation too. natives aren't the ones who aren't in majority, yet some of those fanatics from that group have the gall to even criticize or malign the very community, ethnic groups, religions, cultures etc that provided alms to these beggars to settle in asean region i nfirst place.
  
  

  Thousands of years ago, the Jews were driven from Canaan. Present day Israel is part of Canaan. They were dispersed everywhere and finally come back to their ancestral land, Israel.
  
  Why? Because they could. Some people even believed they succeeded with the help of divine power.
  
  If the ancient Egyptians were to exist like the Jews today, they would drive the Arabs out of Egypt too.
• googoomuck

  3 Jan 08, 07:10

  Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
  
  
  [b]Onwards Christian Soldiers!
  http://old.exile.ru/2002-June-26/war_nerd.html[/b]

  You have to tell us your views about these articles. Why do you post these links.
  Otherwise how to discuss?
• Catknight

  3 Jan 08, 07:39

  Can Israel fight Iran who has a crazed hilter style president that going to eliminate israel off the planet with nukes?
• Poh Ah Pak

  3 Jan 08, 11:32

  Can Israel fight Iran who has a crazed hilter style president that going to eliminate israel off the planet with nukes?

  Iran doesn't have nukes.
  
  Israel has nukes.
  
  I think you mixed the countries up.
  
  Israel is the aggressor country, not Iran.
  
  Israel occupies, not Iran.
  
  Israel attacks lebanon and Syria, not Iran.
  
  too much pro-Israel propaganda already lah.
  
  Now everything become confused.
• Poh Ah Pak

  3 Jan 08, 11:37

  Israel go around occupying other people's territories, killing and terrorising arabs, bomb other people's countries, support USA to attack Iran and Iraq and all these poppyco*ck pro-Israel propaganda. And this stupid anti-Iran propaganda.
  
  Makes me sick.
  
  "Television is not the truth!"
  http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18318.htm