Will Israel be peaceful in 2008?
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wtf are you on crack mate?Originally posted by googoomuck:Thousands of years ago, the Jews were driven from Canaan. Present day Israel is part of Canaan. They were dispersed everywhere and finally come back to their ancestral land, Israel.
Why? Because they could. Some people even believed they succeeded with the help of divine power.
If the ancient Egyptians were to exist like the Jews today, they would drive the Arabs out of Egypt too.
are you talking about jews as a religious community or an ethnic group? because as muddled as it may sound, that's what jews claim to be - both a religious and ethnic group!
now tell me how for instance, indians, polish, russian, german, ethiopan, moroccan, iranian, etc jews ALL belong to same ethnic group. and oh no, no cr@p from yankee sources. nonyankee sources plz (rather, nonzionist sources plz).
ancient egyptians by definition couldn't have existed today as they woudln't be ancient then. however their descendants do exist, and they've mostly been 'arabized'. -
But what's wrong with that?Originally posted by protonhybrid:blah blah blah. as of today, out of six continents on world inhabited by man, 4 are entirely christian. how did that happen?
It's history. Christianity reached the continents first. If they didn't fight, all of Europe would have been converted to an alien religion.. Imperial Russia would have been 'converted'.
The early Europeans could cross the oceans to colonize the continents but the Arabs couldn't.
Today, for every infidel killed by his enemies, the infidels eliminate more enemies in retaliation to maintain the status quo. -
and how did the "jews" arrive in Canaan? eh?Originally posted by googoomuck:Why do you keep insisting that Israel occupy other people's territories?
Have I not point out from one of your links you've provided that the Arab invaders came 5 hundreds years after the Jews were driven out of Canaan by the Romans?
Israel is a part of ancient land Canaan. In fact Israel is now many times smaller than Canaan.
Israel should expand its territory if the Arabs keep insisting it's their land ! -
well mate, that shows what a bloody bumlicker you're! now go kiss your master britain's smelly or plump or whatever it is ar$e!Originally posted by googoomuck:Now you are implying that Malays will one day take back Singapore? You are bringing up a dangerous topic, not me. Read the thread title again.
blah blah blah
Besides, the coloniztion wasn't all bad. We made progress with the knowledge we gained from them, didn't we?
and fyi, no not everybody 'gained' from colonization as they already had advanced knowledge, great societies in place. and no nor was everybody colonized. -
and do you know usa and uk used women because they hid under their women's skirts as they coudl no longer fface up to adolf hitler. well that's all good to ya eh? since they're your masters of course and in fact shaped your views opinions moral codes etc.Originally posted by Catknight:Dun blame the poor guy, the zionist propaganda and anti jewish sentiments have spread even here to the far east
Next thing he say jewish holocust is not true, it's like saying nanking massacare never happen...
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well how do we know. coming from you who denies the rightful existence of palestine, or that 'israel' has been committing atrocities, and that usa/uk has been the commander in chief behind these atrocities.
Let me say the worst religious fascism is from christianity. 4 continents entirely christian today? how? still not answered! of course germany or japan weren't the wrost by a long shot, you'd be forgetting the uk usa or mongols for example then. not to mention israel for their size.
Let me say Islamist facism is many times worse than
nazi germany and imperialistc japan, at least the WW enemies dun strap bombs on their kids, they while inhumane are still rational enough not to kill their own children.
poverty certainly doesn't have much or anything to do with israeli atrocities. and retaliation to zionist regimes' murderous acts is only sensible. china and india has some of the LARGEST militaries on earth and corresponding spending, are you on crack mate? anyway, both china and india has some muslims in there too though india has mostly antimuslim bias due to rivalry with pakistan. whereas china has not so much problems with muslims and the same pakistan is very friendly with china.
And dun tell me they are poor, where's the money the european and rich oil arab went to? It went to indoctrinate this poor kids and they try to keep them poor..osama is wealthy and he went on this path..so it's nothing to do with poverty..China and india have many poor families, you dun see them blowing up their own kids at foreigners ....only moslems do this..Why??
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And Iran used children to be minesweepers, do you know that .thousands of them die and went unreported in mainstream media...zionist power killing the world??.be real I too was taking in by all this once but realised so if a group of jewish want to ferment hell..so does the white elites, chinese, japanese or any other races who are powerful enough...it happens to all races once they are powerful enough so do not only exclude thye JEWS
Do you know hitler ganged up the mufti in jerusalem in WW2 to talk about jewish extermination and actually set up 2 SS muslim divisions in eastern europe?
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blah blah blah. as of today, out of six continents on world inhabited by man, 4 are entirely christian. how did that happen?
You do your own research
If you think that forced Christian conversions took place in those 4 continents
But I'd tell you that if it wasn't for invasions
Islam wouldn't have spread throughout the Middle East and North Africaand how did the "jews" arrive in Canaan? eh?
The source is already provided in this thread
Search it YOURSELFwell mate, that shows what a bloody bumlicker you're! now go kiss your master britain's smelly or plump or whatever it is ar$e!
Just because Googoomuck stated colonization benefited Singapore
Does not you 'spew' vulgarities at him
Especially when Singapore did benefit from colonizationand fyi, no not everybody 'gained' from colonization as they already had advanced knowledge, great societies in place. and no nor was everybody colonized.
Which societies didn't gain from colonization?
Protonhybrid
From your history of posts
You are a vulgar person
Moreover, you seem to like to post questions
Just so that we'd do the research for you
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Originally posted by Catknight:
is it the christian religion that prompted blind support of fanatical terrorist zionist expansionst murderous activities in apartheid regimes illegal gained on palestinian lands?
Oh please are the WW2 Mufti and moslem leaders are in self denial their religion prompted the mein kempf for nazi leaders to propagate their aryan superemacy in the western world.I dun think so..right now they are brainwashing their whole generation of youths to be the altar of sacrifice for islamic facist empire....see the connection of Nazi SS youth wings and the moslem hatred for jews and christans and the destruction of israel , USA and world domination..yea hail the fuhrer of islam!
brainwashed moron, if you're talking of uk.usa etc as 'allied powers', you already are speaking english and your forefathers have been doing so for centuries now thanks to the bloody anglophones already colonizing you and nothing changed for you. your leaders llike you are actually such great bumlickers that you like getting colonized
And you know what that's what is the start of world wars...the calm before the storm..Britain think she can appeased the nazi regime by giving up parts of europe to hiltler but nazi germany engulfed whole of europe within few years..and winston churchil put up the last defense to put out this insane fire of hatred and genocide,,[b]if the allied powers did not succeed...we;re be speaking japanese and the western world german all praising hiltler andn japanese emperor god[/b]
typical of shameless stateless roving nomadic barbarian creatures.
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of course israeli fanatic religious policies have no place in any time in world history, not civilized discourse.Originally posted by SilentWitness:that is true, israel has this immigration policy that if you r jews no matter where u r born, u have the right to live in Israel. what kind of policy is that? no wonder they need to expand n expand!
and the arab israel r leading lifes like 2nd class citizens
in australia, the native is obviously not whites...according to someone here, if we r to follow his logics, the natives will have the rights to take over australia once again huh. same with Spore, USA etc
however natives in usa singapore australia etc have every right to demand their land, as it is theirs simply!
shimon peres or ehud olmert for instance MIGRATED to palestine, if you're a native and weren't forced out by somebody, you wouldn't have to migrate to your own land and be born elsewhere too.
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Depends on which one you want to believe.Originally posted by protonhybrid:and how did the "jews" arrive in Canaan? eh?
Historical context / archaeological context (copied from a link provided by a Palestinian supporter)
Early History of the Region
Before the Hebrews first migrated there around 1800 B.C., the land of Canaan was occupied by Canaanites.
“Between 3000 and 1100 B.C., Canaanite civilization covered what is today Israel, the West Bank, Lebanon and much of Syria and Jordan...Those who remained in the Jerusalem hills after the Romans expelled the Jews [in the second century A.D.] were a potpourri: farmers and vineyard growers, pagans and converts to Christianity, descendants of the Arabs, Persians, Samaritans, Greeks and old Canaanite tribes.” Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, “Their Promised Land.”
It is documented that after the Jews were expelled by the Romans, the old canaanites were still around. How they become extinct later you cannot blame the Jews because they(the Jews) had already vacated the land.
Biblical context (their God is also your God)
Specifically God was judging the Canaanites at that time, the Scripture says, for their gross idolatry, divination, witchcraft, sorcery, and mediums, i.e. those who call up the dead. In fact God says these "detestable practices" are the very reason they were driven out.
Likewise, God warned the Isralites "But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live. And then I will do to you what I plan to do to them.' " -
I don't know what you're talking about. Whether I like it or not, I have no say because I was not born yet.Originally posted by protonhybrid:well mate, that shows what a bloody bumlicker you're! now go kiss your master britain's smelly or plump or whatever it is ar$e!
and fyi, no not everybody 'gained' from colonization as they already had advanced knowledge, great societies in place. and no nor was everybody colonized. -
well how do we know. coming from you who denies the rightful existence of palestine, or that 'israel' has been committing atrocities, and that usa/uk has been the commander in chief behind these atrocities.
Source?Let me say the worst religious fascism is from christianity. 4 continents entirely christian today? how? still not answered! of course germany or japan weren't the wrost by a long shot, you'd be forgetting the uk usa or mongols for example then. not to mention israel for their size.
Answered in previous post
Provide sources to support your statement please
poverty certainly doesn't have much or anything to do with israeli atrocities. and retaliation to zionist regimes' murderous acts is only sensible. china and india has some of the LARGEST militaries on earth and corresponding spending, are you on crack mate? anyway, both china and india has some muslims in there too though india has mostly antimuslim bias due to rivalry with pakistan. whereas china has not so much problems with muslims and the same pakistan is very friendly with china.
Yup
and do you know usa and uk used women because they hid under their women's skirts as they coudl no longer fface up to adolf hitler. well that's all good to ya eh? since they're your masters of course and in fact shaped your views opinions moral codes etc.
let's be fair eh, hitler had a predominantly christian wehrmacht.
You forgot that the ENTIRE German Armed forces
Was indoctrinated with racism
So they could commit atrocities against people whom they thought were
Inferior
Really?
is it the christian religion that prompted blind support of fanatical terrorist zionist expansionst murderous activities in apartheid regimes illegal gained on palestinian lands?
Source?none of you actually provided an unbiased source. no sources in fact.
I find it laughable that
provide sources
Coming from someone who always insists on sources
Where're yours?brainwashed moron, if you're talking of uk.usa etc as 'allied powers', you already are speaking english and your forefathers have been doing so for centuries now thanks to the bloody anglophones already colonizing you and nothing changed for you. your leaders llike you are actually such great bumlickers that you like getting colonized Laughing typical of shameless stateless roving nomadic barbarian creatures.
Undebatable
now you're all agog about usa and uk. i dont see what difference is there. -
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Well, maybe its because Jews have been prosecuted
For maybe many many many many centuries?
So maybe they need a safe haven like Israel
Since Israel, from its birth, was primarily 'designed'
To provide a SAFE haven where Jews wouldn't experience discrimination?
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doesn't matter what happened to jews elsewhere. why should palestinians have to bear the brunt of what happened in eastern europe? if usa loves israel so much, allow them to live in alaska, it's one 1/6th of usa area. jews can live happily no one in palestine bother them? why not?
it's well known mate. what the heck you talking about? go to any israeli forums it'll be obvious. they fight arabs for &&*** sake. but there are verifiable and original accounts.
Arabs living like second class citizens?
Where's your source?
Well, my sources say that Arabs like it in Israel
i didn't even check those sources out. one of them is even named CHRISTIAN science monitor what the heck do you expect?
Originally posted by Lazerlordz
http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126312
And mine
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1106/p06s01-wome.html?page=2
2 things in common
They are Arabs who live in Israel
And they wouldn't want the Palestinians to be the government
no britain illegally snatched lands and handed it over to jews. britain messed things up promising both a palestine and a israel for both parties. and both parties were unhappy, later britain and usa supported israel.
Colonization means snatching lands?
Maybe it was the case in Australia
But was it the case in Israel where the Jews legally bought the land
From the Arabs?
Before its birth?
After its birth
jews stole the lands thanks to britain, and keeps stealing thanks to usa. what's the big surprise mate?
Did someone mention this EARLIER?
All you anti-Israel people keep harping on the same statement
That Jews stole land from the Arabs
Well, my refutations are in this thread for all to see!
Sources also have been provided!
hmm...no! why was let's say shimon peres born in poland then? or golda meir in ukraine?
Maybe its because Canaan used to be their homeland?
Albeit smaller now?(Israel) -
of course israeli fanatic religious policies have no place in any time in world history, not civilized discourse.
By the same logic
however natives in usa singapore australia etc have every right to demand their land, as it is theirs simply!
shimon peres or ehud olmert for instance MIGRATED to palestine, if you're a native and weren't forced out by somebody, you wouldn't have to migrate to your own land and be born elsewhere too.
but zionists from eastern europe are just that. they dont belong in palestine.
White Europeans also have every right to demand their land, as it is theirs simply!
From the Muslims immigrants
But!
They can't right?
Since the Muslim immigrants BOUGHT their land!
Same for Jews, they bought their own land(countless times I've said this)
Want a non-biased source; Jews who bought their own land?
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your post will be reported.Originally posted by Catknight:Unless the world mainstream media are able to report islamis facism in a unapologetic manner, we will lose the war on terror..we're losing already laio -
Originally posted by googoomuck:
who doesn't think they're special?
The Israelis are [b]special people. On the one hand, there are people who sympathize them. They faced persecution throughout history.
On the other hand, there are people who loathe them.
IF cnn, bbc are biased against israel and jews, then who does favour them? dont make a fool out of yourself, i urge you.
News networks like CNN, BBC and of course the Arab owned ones are biasesd against them. Even the UN under Kofi Annan was biased against them when it drafted the resolutions for peace.Another instance is the Yom Kippur War. The Israelis were initially losing the war as the enemies launched a surprised attack when most of the Israeli citizen soldiers were congregated in the synagogues to pray.
the enemies? you seem to be siding with israelis instead of being a neutral observer reporting facts! hmmm..
you meant 'except usa'....well it's the zionist regime's sole backer and as we all know and see usa' s days are numbered, zionist regime will probably vanish in a whimper.
Accept the US which swiftly shipped the war equipment to support the Israelis, no one else tried to stop the Arab Army's onslaught.
lol. source?
When the tides were turned, the Egyptian Army chief suffered a heart attack. A 20,000 strong Egyptian army was under seige by Sharon's tanks and was in danger of been entirely wiped out. The Russians and the UN quickly demanded a truce to negotiate a ceasefire.[/b] -
doesn't matter what happened to jews elsewhere. why should palestinians have to bear the brunt of what happened in eastern europe? if usa loves israel so much, allow them to live in alaska, it's one 1/6th of usa area. jews can live happily no one in palestine bother them? why not?
Because it was their ancient homeland, DUHi didn't even check those sources out. one of them is even named CHRISTIAN science monitor what the heck do you expect?
My bad
But why not check the other source?no britain illegally snatched lands and handed it over to jews. britain messed things up promising both a palestine and a israel for both parties. and both parties were unhappy, later britain and usa supported israel.
jews stole the lands thanks to britain, and keeps stealing thanks to usa. what's the big surprise mate?
HA!
Jews stole land
Why not check my source that the lands were bought legally
"Britain illegally snatched lands and handed it over to jews"
Source?
"britain messed things up promising both a palestine and a israel for both parties."
You must be referring to the Peel Commission
Britain didn't mess things up
They were looking for a solution in the form of separate states for both races
Due to increasing Arab violence against Jews
I agree both were unhappy
Jews being allocated only a tiny portion
And Arabs complaining that Jews were given land
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that's a list of countries you provided. your source is google news? mate which nation owns it?Originally posted by googoomuck:Still want sources?
I provide a list of countries:
Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Ivory Coast, Chad, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Kashmir, Bangladesh, India, Parkistan, fatah-hamas in Gaza , Philippines, S. Thailand, insurgency in Saudi Arabia, Kurds-Turks in Turkey, civil war in Iraq, Yemen, Greece, Albania, macedonia, Bosnia, Chechnya, Georgia, Dagestan, China, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Tajikistan, CyprusÂ…..
...the list can be further expanded
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Originally posted by googoomuck:
good 'facts' by you mate. like afghanistan is arab?
Use your facts then. Where is it?
If there's still dispute, can always turn to archaeological artifacts. This will be hard to debunk. You know what? [b]Arabs are destroying them then and they are destroying them now..In year 2001, Taliban destroyed the statues of Buddha built in approx. AD 500.
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churchill was a mongrel b@stard who've done nothing but sneakyy acts. he's a son of a b1tch from usa. and then his father who visited a harlot in usa found churchill's mother, story of churchill's birth. churchill's @$$ was still sore after losing to ottomans and ataturk in gallipolli (so did anzac, aus/nz)Originally posted by Catknight:Sir winston churchill on moslems:Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome." -
hmm does it mean i can speak my mind on chinese in singapore, or christianity's fanatic streak? like wiping out 4 f*I*** continents of inhabitants of any sort of religion, also half of africa has been duped into duplicitious acts of christianity, also what about korea now becoming a strong christian stronghold. fanaticism growing? usa and korea?Originally posted by Catknight:Sorry but we need to go beyond poltical correctness...most germans dun subscribe to the nazi ideology and most japanese just coast along the imperialistic japan conquest but millions are killed in last WW..I'm sure most moslems are not facist fanatics but we must get one thing straight when the time comes..Umma or national interests?
think about it
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Unless the world mainstream media are able to report islamis facism in a unapologetic manner, we will lose the war on terror..we're losing already laio
Isn't radical Islam a threat to the peace of the ENTIRE WORLD?
your post will be reported.
Then why should Catknight be reported?you meant 'except usa'....well it's the zionist regime's sole backer and as we all know and see usa' s days are numbered, zionist regime will probably vanish in a whimper.
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churchill was a mongrel b@stard who've done nothing but sneakyy acts. he's a son of a b1tch from usa. and then his father who visited a harlot in usa found churchill's mother, story of churchill's birth. churchill's @$$ was still sore after losing to ottomans and ataturk in gallipolli (so did anzac, aus/nz)
Sneaky acts like what?hmm does it mean i can speak my mind on chinese in singapore, or christianity's fanatic streak? like wiping out 4 f*I*** continents of inhabitants of any sort of religion, also half of africa has been duped into duplicitious acts of christianity, also what about korea now becoming a strong christian stronghold. fanatic€ism growing? usa and korea?
Source?
Like the one above, you haven't responded with sources
To your previous accusations of
Jews this Jews that
USA this USA that
Britain this Britain that
Christian religion this Christian religion that
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Protonhybrid is spewing nonsense yet again. From most of your posts, we can tell that you are nothing but a moronic bigot. Alway criticising Singaporeans especially the Chinese. Guess you are just a Malayisa Malay loser.Originally posted by protonhybrid:well mate, that shows what a bloody bumlicker you're! now go kiss your master britain's smelly or plump or whatever it is ar$e!
and fyi, no not everybody 'gained' from colonization as they already had advanced knowledge, great societies in place. and no nor was everybody colonized.
No fear, Singapore will never allow a flawed Bumpi policy like those in Malaysia. And Malaysia was also colonized by British. -
Same flawed argument and criticism again. Anglophone this, anglophone that, calling us slaves of Westerners.Originally posted by protonhybrid:brainwashed moron, if you're talking of uk.usa etc as 'allied powers', you already are speaking english and your forefathers have been doing so for centuries now thanks to the bloody anglophones already colonizing you and nothing changed for you. your leaders llike you are actually such great bumlickers that you like getting colonized typical of shameless stateless roving nomadic barbarian creatures.
now you're all agog about usa and uk. i dont see what difference is there.
Then who do you think you are.? Slave of Arab. wahahahaha... or a hybrid of Pig and Man?
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Then provided us with Arabic sources since you CLAIMED ALL Western media are not creditable.Originally posted by protonhybrid:lol. source?
Anyway we also dun trust any Arabic sources 100% for the same reason you mentioned.