Bio tech and Life Sciences - Wat Happen?
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i think they have no life now.Originally posted by skyblue_1989:then wat happen to those who took lifescience course in poly after they graduate sia??
what they need now is to study life science..i mean the science of life and not be so gullible next time round -
why people so gullible?
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money is in property...and the building of property..ala construction sector
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Bio industry has MANY branches. Pharmacy is just one of them. So it doesn't affect the WHOLE industry. Get it?Originally posted by faroukalhadad:I remember not too long ago our elites and our leaders keep telling us that life sciences is the way to go. Biotech is the future. Blah Blah blah...
Pump so much money into it. Tell our students to study it till so many got conned into taking up bio courses at poly and uni.
Yesterday news report that pharmaceutical industry is down AGAIN - by 33%
Looks like another gamble by the govt gone wrong.
reminds me of the late 1990s when govt tell our students to study IT. then IT went bust with so many ppl losing their jobs, with all the Indians coming in to work as IT "professionals" -
in NUS, there is a pharmacy department.
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NUS has alot of departments -_-Originally posted by Gasfene:in NUS, there is a pharmacy department. -
we might or we might not... there is still chance. we are still leading ahead of our neighbours in terms of this sector. but then, don forget china, i think their science graduates can easily outnumber our country's population.
we might not be able to compete in trying to find the cures, but we still got temasek do business in this area. right?
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Which factory, in Singapore, net profits is more than sum of net profits of
ALL 3 LOCAL banks?
1.Drugs making process takes no. of weeks to complete.Originally posted by faroukalhadad:I remember not too long ago our elites and our leaders keep telling us that life sciences is the way to go. Biotech is the future. Blah Blah blah...
Pump so much money into it. Tell our students to study it till so many got conned into taking up bio courses at poly and uni.
Yesterday news report that pharmaceutical industry is down AGAIN - by 33%
Looks like another gamble by the govt gone wrong.
reminds me of the late 1990s when govt tell our students to study IT. then IT went bust with so many ppl losing their jobs, with all the Indians coming in to work as IT "professionals"
So,u have seen and will continue to see the figures
in this sectors up and down.U are surprised becos u dunt know
this sectors....
Read the Tables and charts then u know
2.Remember we start from ground zero and now get this,not
bad.Biomedical Manufacturing
do some home works before u talk
....................................................................2005 ....2006
Manufacturing Fixed Asset Investments (S$ mil) ....860.....902
Total Value-Added (S$ mil) ......................2,570..........2,025
u are not uneducated old uncle and aunt talking in coffee shop
to kill time.
3.Manufacturing still have long way to grow...
Question No. 1:
Which factory net profis is one and half of Sing Tel
2.Which factory net profits is more than sum of net profits of
ALL 3 LOCAL banks.S1000 Award Top Net Profit by Industry
Company Name......................Net Profit SGD '000
Communications/Transport/Storage
Singapore Telecommunications Limited.....$4,161,300
Finance
United Overseas Bank Limited .................$1,731,403
Hotels/Food Establishments
Goodwood Park Hotel Limited ....................$208,596
Manufacturing
Glaxo Wellcome Manufacturing Pte Ltd .........$6,593,844
Retail
DFS Venture Singapore (Pte) Limited ............$148,707
Services
Singapore Press Holdings Limited ....................$488,389
Wholesale
Exxonmobil Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd. ......................$1,833,794
2.SG government expense is some $30 billion pa.Profits of Glaxo Wellcome Manufacturing Pte Ltd .........$6,593,844,000 is more than 20% of sg expenses!!.
Of course,there is much tax incentives under Pioneer Certificates etc.
Manufacturing still can feed many local and foreign families.
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chemistry is under-rated. Lots of pharmaceutical products requires the knowledge of chemistry more than life sciences.
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with regards to this topic, just touched base with my friends from uni who took bio science.
they are now working as lab technician in a school preparing beakers and bunsen burners for sec students to do science experiments from textbook. -
i think i have offended a lot of biotech / life sciences students
my apologies sincerely
just wanted to point out that its not worth it to just "jump in" at what the govt says its hot.
govt says IT is hot............... all jump into IT. in the end promise unfulfilled
govt says bio is hot . ..................... all jump into bio. now jobs are not appearing as fast as graduates are coming
govt says casino will be hot ..................only time will tell. no one can say yet.
yes, you can quote all the impressive figures
but do they translate to jobs for singaporeans?
a profitable company does not mean anything to us. i t just means they are making big money for themselves.
sometimes old is good -
Wat the government proposed is wat they think is going to wrk for the nation...
End of the day, wat they need is ppl to wrk n pay taxes n such.
As in who is going to pay makes no difference to them.
end of the day, $$$ must go into pocket ok liao.
this is how i think SG is run. just like a business.
So be it IT, biomed, tourism and other things that might come up, take it as a business venture. As not all venture make it. By right, head should roll if venture fail but yet to see any...hahahahaha.
Anyway just do what u deem fit and see for urself lor.
Like in business world, not happy just leave lor, if still can tahan then stay. -
Right.
How long and how much it costs typically to discover and get a drug from lab, trials and into the marketplace?
Patents expire in 10 years. Wouldn't generic copycat makers churn out
competing and cheaper products after that?
So you pour in $Y millions and make $X millions. How big is $X-Y?
I guess the scholars who planned for it know it all.
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what troubles me is the young ones, who seem so gullible and judt follow what the govt think is "hot"
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Now you see the success of our educational system
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If u take a look at the list of nobel laurettes, u can see even mathematicians contributing to medicines. How long will sporean take to realise that Math, physics and chemistry are really the fundamental of sciences?? To do research in bio tech life science etc, u need to be good in chemistry and physcis or even mathematics.
Mathematics is unreasonably powerful and touches all area of sciences. So if sporean youngster still rush towards life science degree and expect to be employed to do advance research, dream on. U can only at most help the experts to wash their test tubes.
Wake up pls!!! -
SG wrks like a business, u happy u stay n wrk n follow wat i tell u.
Not happy right? the door is always open.
Remember SG is a free market ( not so free in some ways) so u are free to go or stay. up to you.
anyway i'm also taking biomed, feeling the stress there but i chose this not because Elite says it is the IN thing.
it is my wish to get a degree in biomedical field, if can use for work then best liao. if not, still ok as i dun think it's the end of world.
Just do wat u think is ok for u and not because some elites say so,
as end of days you depend on urself for $$$. not elites throw $$$ at you.
Wat elites says is what they projected/expected only... not confirm one. They also dare not say confirm gurantee plus chop sure win one mah.
u see for urself lor.
that's my opinion lor, only for reference, dun flame me thanks. -
Sigh. I feel cheated.
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the other sector that has been ear marked as "coming-up" by the singapore govt now is digital media and animation. i cannot comment on this cos this is not my industry.
anyone in this industry here? -
i'm in electronic field.
can't comment on media or animation. -
Really ahOriginally posted by faroukalhadad:with regards to this topic, just touched base with my friends from uni who took bio science.
they are now working as lab technician in a school preparing beakers and bunsen burners for sec students to do science experiments from textbook.
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And the differences I notice working overseas is that people can move from one area to another with relative ease.Originally posted by lagrangian1125:If u take a look at the list of nobel laurettes, u can see even mathematicians contributing to medicines. How long will sporean take to realise that Math, physics and chemistry are really the fundamental of sciences?? To do research in bio tech life science etc, u need to be good in chemistry and physcis or even mathematics.
Mathematics is unreasonably powerful and touches all area of sciences. So if sporean youngster still rush towards life science degree and expect to be employed to do advance research, dream on. U can only at most help the experts to wash their test tubes.
Wake up pls!!!
Maths is very important . I am taking up mathematics now .
Lagrangian - Fan of lagrange? I remember Lagrange multipliers in extrema of a multivariable function. -
Wah, dun know how to continue liao?
so many high fliers here in many areas. hahahahah -
Not really. I am sunk ....not flying.Originally posted by 933:Wah, dun know how to continue liao?
so many high fliers here in many areas. hahahahah -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:Which factory, in Singapore, net profits is more than sum of net profits of
ALL 3 LOCAL banks?
Do you do stand up for a living?Originally posted by faroukalhadad:
I remember not too long ago our elites and our leaders keep telling us that life sciences is the way to go. Biotech is the future. Blah Blah blah...
Pump so much money into it. Tell our students to study it till so many got conned into taking up bio courses at poly and uni.
Yesterday news report that pharmaceutical industry is down AGAIN - by 33%
Looks like another gamble by the govt gone wrong.
reminds me of the late 1990s when govt tell our students to study IT. then IT went bust with so many ppl losing their jobs, with all the Indians coming in to work as IT "professionals"[/quote]
1.Drugs making process takes no. of weeks to complete.
So,u have seen and will continue to see the figures
in this sectors up and down.U are surprised becos u dunt know
this sectors....
Read the Tables and charts then u know
2.Remember we start from ground zero and now get this,not
bad.Biomedical Manufacturing
....................................................................2005 ....2006
Manufacturing Fixed Asset Investments (S$ mil) ....860.....902
Total Value-Added (S$ mil) ......................2,570..........2,025do some home works before u talk
u are not uneducated old uncle and aunt talking in coffee shop
to kill time.
3.Manufacturing still have long way to grow...
Question No. 1:
Which factory net profis is one and half of Sing Tel
2.Which factory net profits is more than sum of net profits of
ALL 3 LOCAL banks.S1000 Award Top Net Profit by Industry
Company Name......................Net Profit SGD '000
Communications/Transport/Storage
Singapore Telecommunications Limited.....$4,161,300
Finance
United Overseas Bank Limited .................$1,731,403
Hotels/Food Establishments
Goodwood Park Hotel Limited ....................$208,596
Manufacturing
Glaxo Wellcome Manufacturing Pte Ltd .........$6,593,844
Retail
DFS Venture Singapore (Pte) Limited ............$148,707
Services
Singapore Press Holdings Limited ....................$488,389
Wholesale
Exxonmobil Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd. ......................$1,833,794
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2.SG government expense is some $30 billion pa.Profits of Glaxo Wellcome Manufacturing Pte Ltd .........$6,593,844,000 is more than 20% of sg expenses!!.
Of course,there is much tax incentives under Pioneer Certificates etc.
Manufacturing still can feed many local and foreign families.
You should change your nick to lioncomedian or pu55yfunny.
On you links of tables and charts, you posted facts to refute your claim. With your standard of English, I wonder if you actually do a quick browse thru all those information before posting it.
From your tables and charts which I did a quick browse:
6. The biomedical manufacturing cluster contracted 33.4% year-on-year in November. Output of the pharmaceuticals segment declined 35.6% as some active pharmaceutical ingredients were not produced. Lower demand from Europe and the US led to a decline of 15.0% in output of medical technology products. For the first eleven months of 2007, the clusterÂ’s output grew 3.0% compared to the same period last year.