Which one: high tax good welfare or low tax no welfare?

• Philip Pullman

  3 Jan 08, 11:51

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy
• justcooler

  3 Jan 08, 12:10

  As long as i can have a stable job till 60 then retire, a roof that i can stay till the day i die and a life long saving that i can have control over
  
  i really don't care
• @®+

  3 Jan 08, 12:15

  Depends on what is my class in society
  high income, middle income or low income ?
  
• HyperFocal

  3 Jan 08, 13:12

  
  Right now, Taxes aren't low either... they only appear low, but with double taxations & trigger happy hikes here and there, we're being over taxed & yet nothing in return...!!!
  
  We're paying so much for peanut shells!
  
  And even if Option 1 is applied here, we'd still get marginal returns in welfare with the current regime....
  
  
• ceecookie

  3 Jan 08, 13:17

  If you are referring to the PAP,its High Tax Bad Welfare
• HyperFocal

  3 Jan 08, 13:19

  
  They just want ... MONEY...
  
  ...MONEY MONEY MONEY...
  
  ... nothing else... just MONEY and MORE MONEY...
  
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  ...MONEY MONEY MONEY... ...MONEY MONEY MONEY...
• play_n_play

  4 Jan 08, 07:54

  most people dun mind highest income tax if the pay is also high;
  
  

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

• googoomuck

  4 Jan 08, 14:25

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

  I vote for 1),
  Based on an assumption that the govt is also a responsible one.
• hloc

  4 Jan 08, 15:52

  I vote for 3.5.....
  
  Low tax + low Welfare (instead of no welfare)
• Herzog_Zwei

  4 Jan 08, 16:04

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

  You forgot 1 other component for 3):
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy
  High income tax.
• oxford mushroom

  5 Jan 08, 09:38

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

  For losers who cannot/will not find a job, it's high tax and good welfare. After all, they do not pay income tax.
  
  For successful citizens who can find a job anywhere in the world, it's low tax no welfare.
  
  Difference is: the successful can always move elsewhere if you raise taxes, nobody wants the loser....
• googoomuck

  5 Jan 08, 10:00

  Originally posted by oxford mushroom:

  For losers who cannot/will not find a job, it's high tax and good welfare. After all, they do not pay income tax.
  
  For successful citizens who can find a job anywhere in the world, it's low tax no welfare.
  
  Difference is: the successful can always move elsewhere if you raise taxes, nobody wants the loser....

  What?
  
  Look at the Scandinavian model. These countries have better living standards of living although their costs of living are also high. Generally, they are a bunch of happier people.. Note that I'm not saying that there's no problems in these countries.
  
  Are these people generally lazy? I say that with a good social safety net, they have less worries and can stay more focused in their work. Their weekly working hours are shorter but there's higher productivity.
• royston_ang

  5 Jan 08, 12:32

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

  Either 1 or 3 is better than 2 (status quo - high indirect tax and no welfare for common but welfare for ministers).
• genie99

  7 Jan 08, 11:44

  Originally posted by oxford mushroom:

  For losers who cannot/will not find a job, it's high tax and good welfare. After all, they do not pay income tax.
  
  Difference is: the successful can always move elsewhere if you raise taxes, nobody wants the loser....

  That's elitist thinking dude..... Life's not all about being successful and being rich..... to label them losers and all that.... not very nice. There are peeps that work hard but never had the chance/or did not do well in studies.
• frakfrakfrak

  7 Jan 08, 12:55

  People who call other people losers are simply immature. Most likely they've led an over privileged life on somebody else's account or are coasting along on the status that they occupy at someone else's expense. Sons of successful people, people who got a golden parachute bought with tax payer's dollars etc. In other words, leeches who need an ego boost to justify their worthless existence. Those truely successful people who have gone through the trials and tribulation of building up their lives and are acknowledged by their peers as successful (not the type that have to slime all over everybody showing off how "successful" they are) almost never call others losers based on just transitory and external assessments of wealth or self professed "merit".
• robertteh

  7 Jan 08, 20:39

  I am afraid we are neither a country paying high taxes and getting high welfare nor a country where people are paying low taxes and getting no welfare.
  
  We are easily the only country on this planet where people are paying the highest taxes (direct, indirect, double-charging on lands and infrastructures and profiteering by all GLCs) and yet are getting low or no welfare. Any essential government services paid for by the citizens are being charged back again despite the taxes paid.
• reddressman

  7 Jan 08, 21:51

  Originally posted by Philip Pullman:

  Please vote for your preference:
  
  1) High tax good welfare
  GST 20%
  Income tax 30%
  Social security
  Free education
  Free medical facilities
  
  2) Status quo
  
  3) Low tax no welfare
  GST 10%
  No income tax
  No welfare/subsidy

  all this said and done.
  
  Do we have any effect on the decision for all the above?