more singaporeans in australia lately...
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i talked to a viet oz banker last week and when she heard that im a singaporean, she was eager to know why i want to move to australia. she later said to me that over the past 2-3 years, there have been a record number of singaporeans migrating to australia. 10 years ago, she has not heard of singaporean emigrating to australia. i got to know another 3 more new singaporean couples recently around my area.
when will it be your turn, my fellow singaporeans? -
I have a friend who is an Australian PR. He just come back to Singapore to finish off his 2.5months NS deferment.
He mentioned that engineers are in huge demand in Australia and Australian companies are hunger for foreign engineers. He, being only in the workforce for a year, command a pay of S$8000. The pay is a norm for engineers in Australia.
Moreover, my friend stated Oz has lot of social benefits despite the higher income tax. The weather is nice (for Melbourne)...
It sets me thinking. In Singapore, engineers are undervalued and unpaid but overworked.
hmm... Migrating is no small matter. Need lot of consideration and pondering.
Any advice? -
yeah, 1st world nation it is, sillypore. 1st world, but at whose expense?
My friend, a counsellor (psychologist), earns sgd65/hr part time. When in sg, it was not part time but overtime
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You must not forget, Singapore is starting to develop their engineering sectors. The demand is not here yet, but it will come soon no doubt. But not forgetting the australians will pay you high salaries due to the demand. Personally, i would say yes on the condition that your family is fine with it.Originally posted by Spartans:I have a friend who is an Australian PR. He just come back to Singapore to finish off his 2.5months NS deferment.
He mentioned that engineers are in huge demand in Australia and Australian companies are hunger for foreign engineers. He, being only in the workforce for a year, command a pay of S$8000. The pay is a norm for engineers in Australia.
Moreover, my friend stated Oz has lot of social benefits despite the higher income tax. The weather is nice (for Melbourne)...
It sets me thinking. In Singapore, engineers are undervalued and unpaid but overworked.
hmm... Migrating is no small matter. Need lot of consideration and pondering.
Any advice? -
I am in your part of Australia now. BrisbaneOriginally posted by fishbuff:i talked to a viet oz banker last week and when she heard that im a singaporean, she was eager to know why i want to move to australia. she later said to me that over the past 2-3 years, there have been a record number of singaporeans migrating to australia. 10 years ago, she has not heard of singaporean emigrating to australia. i got to know another 3 more new singaporean couples recently around my area.
when will it be your turn, my fellow singaporeans?
. Hahahaha BOO! -
What is the total population of Sporean in Australia?
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Not only Singaporeans but ASIANS. That's y the Aus govt are trying to control the Asian population there. Perhaps next time it won't be too easy to have an Aus PR.Originally posted by fishbuff:i talked to a viet oz banker last week and when she heard that im a singaporean, she was eager to know why i want to move to australia. she later said to me that over the past 2-3 years, there have been a record number of singaporeans migrating to australia. 10 years ago, she has not heard of singaporean emigrating to australia. i got to know another 3 more new singaporean couples recently around my area.
when will it be your turn, my fellow singaporeans? -
well well... nice to hear that u are here in brisbane. which part? im staying in the westside near middle park.Originally posted by fymk:I am in your part of Australia now. Brisbane . Hahahaha BOO! -
it has never been easy to get OZ PR for ages.. u need relevant degrees and professional experiences that can be certified and also in demand before they will process your application, not to mention that u need to be below a certain age group and no criminal records.Originally posted by selfobliged:Not only Singaporeans but ASIANS. That's y the Aus govt are trying to control the Asian population there. Perhaps next time it won't be too easy to have an Aus PR.
those singaporeans and asians that i met are well-endowed with good academic qualifications and professional experiences.. even an ex-govt scholar is here too.
i had met several HK and PRC chaps, who had stayed in Singapore for 5- 10 years before moving to australia. if PAP think that granting FTs to easy citizenship, make no mistakes that they will move on to other countries eventually.
my advice to PAP; focus your social and economic development on singaporeans, we are the only one that can be patriotic. -
In the first place if the PAP is willing to listen to their citizen then there may not be a need to import FTs...Originally posted by fishbuff:it has never been easy to get OZ PR for ages.. u need relevant degrees and professional experiences that can be certified and also in demand before they will process your application, not to mention that u need to be below a certain age group and no criminal records.
those singaporeans and asians that i met are well-endowed with good academic qualifications and professional experiences.. even an ex-govt scholar is here too.
i had met several HK and PRC chaps, who had stayed in Singapore for 5- 10 years before moving to australia. if PAP think that granting FTs to easy citizenship, make no mistakes that they will move on to other countries eventually.
my advice to PAP; focus your social and economic development on singaporeans, we are the only one that can be patriotic. -
Pros and cons mate, income tax is about 20%, standard of living is also high, food stuff is exp, home loans 8%. Crime rate higher. PR is renewing type, no definite issue to you, you have to stay there a minimum yrs before they renew your expiring PR again.
But them again, I miss OZ. -
In the cityOriginally posted by fishbuff:well well... nice to hear that u are here in brisbane. which part? im staying in the westside near middle park. near Myers Centre. -
Not just engineers. The country is facing a shortage of teachers. It has reached crisis point in the west.Originally posted by Spartans:I have a friend who is an Australian PR. He just come back to Singapore to finish off his 2.5months NS deferment.
He mentioned that engineers are in huge demand in Australia and Australian companies are hunger for foreign engineers. He, being only in the workforce for a year, command a pay of S$8000. The pay is a norm for engineers in Australia.
Moreover, my friend stated Oz has lot of social benefits despite the higher income tax. The weather is nice (for Melbourne)...
It sets me thinking. In Singapore, engineers are undervalued and unpaid but overworked.
hmm... Migrating is no small matter. Need lot of consideration and pondering.
Any advice? -
Countries like USA, Europe that are true 1st worlds pay their 'zens 1st world pay.Originally posted by CUM ON MY FACE:yeah, 1st world nation it is, sillypore. 1st world, but at whose expense?
My friend, a counsellor (psychologist), earns sgd65/hr part time. When in sg, it was not part time but overtime
I wonder does sg pay its 'zens 1st world pay considering the 1st world cost of living and flats as cheap as 750K?
i really no no de. -
But you must know answers to 2 questions below:Originally posted by longgone:You must not forget, Singapore is starting to develop their engineering sectors. The demand is not here yet, but it will come soon no doubt. But not forgetting the australians will pay you high salaries due to the demand. Personally, i would say yes on the condition that your family is fine with it.
1. sg is based on asian salary (except those ppl). US and Europe pay the same talents much much more? so , what , happens if sg is 1st world already? I really no no so I asking. You know you tell lor.
2. sg so-called 1st world econ yet growth is at developing country level. Why? Think people think! -
If I see the price of the flat costing $750000, I will think twice about buying.Originally posted by reddressman:Countries like USA, Europe that are true 1st worlds pay their 'zens 1st world pay.
I wonder does sg pay its 'zens 1st world pay considering the 1st world cost of living and flats as cheap as 750K?
i really no no de.
A lot of foreigner also shocked to see such a flat price high, they claimed in
their countries can buy a big landed property already. -
Uhh, is she a counsellor or a psychologist? I assume that's take-home pay? The going rate for psychologists in general is S$240 per hour.Originally posted by CUM ON MY FACE:My friend, a counsellor (psychologist), earns sgd65/hr part time. When in sg, it was not part time but overtime -
They've always limited the number of immigrants according to an annual quota, and the entry requirements have been raised steadily as the number of people meeting those requirements has increased.Originally posted by selfobliged:Not only Singaporeans but ASIANS. That's y the Aus govt are trying to control the Asian population there. Perhaps next time it won't be too easy to have an Aus PR.
It's not a matter of trying to control any given population, but obviously they can't just let the population grow at a disproportionate rate to other factors such as the economy.
I've been here since 1994 and generally I've got no complaints. However, with the Australian dollar getting so strong, I'll have to let my money sit in Singapore for a while more - I really should have moved it sooner.
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Well, the minimum-stay rule for PRs is a good idea IMHO. The Immigration Department's job is to make sure that the immigrants they let in come here to contribute to the country instead of picking up PR as a spare tyre. Frankly, I think that's fair.Originally posted by carrotsoup:Pros and cons mate, income tax is about 20%, standard of living is also high, food stuff is exp, home loans 8%. Crime rate higher. PR is renewing type, no definite issue to you, you have to stay there a minimum yrs before they renew your expiring PR again.
But them again, I miss OZ.
The interest rate's a bugger, but looking at the house prices that the hikes are intended to control, it looks like kiasuism isn't just a Singaporean thing - the jerks buying investment properties are making it hard for people trying to buy their first homes. -
Well, spare a thought for the S457 visa holders who have made enormous sacrifices to work in Oz.Originally posted by Gedanken:Well, the minimum-stay rule for PRs is a good idea IMHO. The Immigration Department's job is to make sure that the immigrants they let in come here to contribute to the country instead of picking up PR as a spare tyre. Frankly, I think that's fair.
The interest rate's a bugger, but looking at the house prices that the hikes are intended to control, it looks like kiasuism isn't just a Singaporean thing - the jerks buying investment properties are making it hard for people trying to buy their first homes.
As for property prices, they are ridiculous all right. This could have nasty trickle-down effects. -
Actually and sadly ( I know I am going to be hammered for it) , I hope Australia won't spare a thought for temp working permit visa holders. I like the current protectionism they have for the permanent residents and citizens. It is good because it protects my wage.Originally posted by iveco:Well, spare a thought for the S457 visa holders who have made enormous sacrifices to work in Oz.
As for property prices, they are ridiculous all right. This could have nasty trickle-down effects.
I did not come out of Singapore to enter another version of Singapore. -
Haha, PRC-phobia strikes again.Originally posted by fymk:Actually and sadly ( I know I am going to be hammered for it) , I hope Australia won't spare a thought for temp working permit visa holders. I like the current protectionism they have for the permanent residents and citizens. It is good because it protects my wage.
I did not come out of Singapore to enter another version of Singapore. I know many of those guys hail from PRC.
In fact, I know of people who lobby on behalf of these folks. Ever heard of the Unity party? -
They will never be voted in. Simple.Originally posted by iveco:Haha, PRC-phobia strikes again. I know many of those guys hail from PRC.
In fact, I know of people who lobby on behalf of these folks. Ever heard of the Unity party?
It is not PRC phobia . It is about protecting the current rate of my wages. I can compete against foreigners but the problem is that I am not willing to sacrifice the yearly increments, lower wages and benefits so that I get the damn job. -
Originally posted by fymk:They will never be voted in. Simple.
It is not PRC phobia . It is about protecting the current rate of my wages. I can compete against foreigners but the problem is that I am not willing to sacrifice the yearly increments, lower wages and benefits so that I get the damn job.
very true!! 100% agree!Originally posted by fymk:Actually and sadly ( I know I am going to be hammered for it) , I hope Australia won't spare a thought for temp working permit visa holders. I like the current protectionism they have for the permanent residents and citizens. It is good because it protects my wage.
I did not come out of Singapore to enter another version of Singapore. -
it's the effect of global warmingOriginally posted by fishbuff:i talked to a viet oz banker last week and when she heard that im a singaporean, she was eager to know why i want to move to australia. she later said to me that over the past 2-3 years, there have been a record number of singaporeans migrating to australia. 10 years ago, she has not heard of singaporean emigrating to australia. i got to know another 3 more new singaporean couples recently around my area.
when will it be your turn, my fellow singaporeans?