more singaporeans in australia lately...
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Cooler?Originally posted by BaByBoY:my family..
all are 2nd gen SG..
none are in aussie,
so i don tink i`ll be dragged there by them
however i really wanted to be somewhere `cooler` and less ppl..
and i really don wan to work til 85 to get back my OWN money..
Don't worry, with global warming Singapoor will end up with more rain and cooler weather.
Less people not likely, unless the government reverses it's policy of importing more foreign talents to synthetically prop up the GDP and her population.
Not work till 85, not likely too, because we are not a welfare state, if you are poor then obviously you are of no use to Singapore, so better off 6 feet under I guess. -
liewOriginally posted by maurizio13:Cooler?
Don't worry, with global warming Singapoor will end up with more rain and cooler weather.
Less people not likely, unless the government reverses it's policy of importing more foreign talents to synthetically prop up the GDP and her population.
Not work till 85, not likely too, because we are not a welfare state, if you are poor then obviously you are of no use to Singapore, so better off 6 feet under I guess.
don gian me migrate can??
haha
makes oz so wonderful -
Singapore, 4th highest in population density with 4.5 million population.Originally posted by BaByBoY:liew
don gian me migrate can??
haha
makes oz so wonderful
Imagine what would be the population density be like with 6.0 million population.
We will probably need to wear special suits with grease to slide past each other in the MRT trains. Not that it's an entirely bad thing for the guys. -
i`ve already passed the MRT stage.. so no grease for me thanksOriginally posted by maurizio13:Singapore, 4th highest in population density with 4.5 million population.
Imagine what would be the population density be like with 6.0 million population.
We will probably need to wear special suits with grease to slide past each other in the MRT trains. Not that it's an entirely bad thing for the guys. -
How about grease for your car ?Originally posted by BaByBoY:i`ve already passed the MRT stage.. so no grease for me thanks
just joking -
God bless you if you are.Originally posted by Daddy!!:maybe i am Lionnoisy -
Guys, grease,Originally posted by maurizio13:Singapore, 4th highest in population density with 4.5 million population.
Imagine what would be the population density be like with 6.0 million population.
We will probably need to wear special suits with grease to slide past each other in the MRT trains. Not that it's an entirely bad thing for the guys. -
now if only u can have grease for the ERP gantry.Originally posted by BaByBoY:i`ve already passed the MRT stage.. so no grease for me thanks -
285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average Floor area occupied by
Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
Never mind any figures of land density.
Use Google Earth u will know SG have plenty of land.
Just look at Marina South and East...
1.Pl think carefully.SG living area per person may be the one of theOriginally posted by maurizio13:Singapore, 4th highest in population density with 4.5 million population.
Imagine what would be the population density be like with 6.0 million population.
We will probably need to wear special suits with grease to slide past each other in the MRT trains. Not that it's an entirely bad thing for the guys.
highest in Asia,and one of the top in the world/
Why?
The survey here just include all land,including waste land,farm land,
land in remote area.That is GROSS LAND AREA.
SG has the luck of flat land,all are useable.
Singapore HDB no.of units in each type of public housing
TYPE ----NO.OF UNITS --EST AREA IN SQ FT--descriptions
1-Room Flats-- 20,145--300 SQ FT--no partition,like Studio
2-Room Flats-- 28,7 1 2---500sf---1 bed room
3-Room Flats -- 222,098---700sf---2 BR
4-Room Flats-- 331,787---900-sf---3 BR
5-room Flats-- 207,975---1300sf---3 TO 4 BR
Executive Flats -- 65,150---1450sf---3 BR PLUS STUDY,some are duplex
Studio Apartments-- 1,081---450sf---1 BR
HUDC Flats-- 1,865--1700sf---3 BR
Total no. of units 878,813
POPULATION IN HDB 2,980,000--PAGE 17 OF hdb ANNUAL REPORT
285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is average Floor area occupied by Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
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With regards to your calculations, our concern is, although 285 square feet might be the average area occupied by a normal HDB occupant, we have to take note that this is built up area. The actual land area might be shared among many people (many storeys). Let's assume we share it among 12 storeys (nowadays HDBs go from 12 storeys to 24 storeys or more)Originally posted by lionnoisy:285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average area occupied by
Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
Each actual land area occupied per HDB occupant is only 23.75 sq ft!
Given a cheap executive flat, 1450 sq ft, 390k at Hougang, with few mins walking distance to amenities (recent sold price). Using the above calculations, we divide among 12 households (15 storeys actually, but give more leeway to HDB la)
Then, price per sq ft of land area is $3228 for a 99 lease (2nd hand flat) with you not even owning the title deed. We can imagine that a condo would be a worse-off investment. True, the amount of concrete used is much more than that of a private house, but is that extra amount really worth that much more? -
any incident of singaporeans getting discriminated over at australia?
just like sooooo many PRCs in our homeland?? -
Of course, especially in rural areas. For city, I heard Brishane has more racial discrimination.Originally posted by Fireindahouse:any incident of singaporeans getting discriminated over at australia?
just like sooooo many PRCs in our homeland??
Melbourne is slightly better as there is a rather high percentage of Asians living there. -
so far ok, but i will let u know when i face one.Originally posted by Spartans:Of course, especially in rural areas. For city, I heard Brishane has more racial discrimination.
Melbourne is slightly better as there is a rather high percentage of Asians living there.
i dont think i will face it at this moment, im bigger, taller and stronger than most of the aussies here.
usually, the situation is ok when the foreigners are few, but when the number has increased to uncomfortable level, that is when the local population start to complain.
similar case to sg, in the 90s, we hardly see any PRCs and we welcomed them with wide open arms. When the number increase astronomically, we start to detest them. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average area occupied by
Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
2.oh sorry--285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average(floor) area occupied by Singapore public housing HDB occupant.Originally posted by eagle:With regards to your calculations, our concern is, although 285 square feet might be the average area occupied by a normal HDB occupant, we have to take note that this is built up area. The actual land area might be shared among many people (many storeys). Let's assume we share it among 12 storeys (nowadays HDBs go from 12 storeys to 24 storeys or more)
Each actual land area occupied per HDB occupant is only 23.75 sq ft!
Given a cheap executive flat, 1450 sq ft, 390k at Hougang, with few mins walking distance to amenities (recent sold price). Using the above calculations, we divide among 12 households (15 storeys actually, but give more leeway to HDB la)
Then, price per sq ft of land area is $3228 for a 99 lease (2nd hand flat) with you not even owning the title deed. We can imagine that a condo would be a worse-off investment. True, the amount of concrete used is much more than that of a private house, but is that extra amount really worth that much more?
pl note i refer to floor area,not land area
Even the current Plot Ratio of HDB not more than 3.5.
Thats is 3.5 sq feet of floor area on 1 sq ft of land.
Check other countries multi story plot ratio. -
would love to go down under if possible.....
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I think you are on the right track.....I agree its no small matter as I also made that decision years back, albeit not Aust...but I believe it will pay off in the long run......you really have to envision what Sillypore will be like in 5-10 years time...of course they will paint you a nice picture here but you will have to see the flip side too and decide if its what you want for your children...don't worry about replacements as they will get them from Indian and China....your duty should be to think for yourself and family first.......seriously.....think about how congested it will be here....so whether it be better pay, social welfare.....bigger space, less congestion.....think carefully.....you can see where Sillypore is headed to if you visit URA website and see what urban plans they have in mind to further congest the place.....good luckOriginally posted by Spartans:I have a friend who is an Australian PR. He just come back to Singapore to finish off his 2.5months NS deferment.
He mentioned that engineers are in huge demand in Australia and Australian companies are hunger for foreign engineers. He, being only in the workforce for a year, command a pay of S$8000. The pay is a norm for engineers in Australia.
Moreover, my friend stated Oz has lot of social benefits despite the higher income tax. The weather is nice (for Melbourne)...
It sets me thinking. In Singapore, engineers are undervalued and unpaid but overworked.
hmm... Migrating is no small matter. Need lot of consideration and pondering.
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Dun mind me but i found it peculiar that you guys are debating over something that is leased to youOriginally posted by lionnoisy:Originally posted by lionnoisy:
285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average area occupied by
Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
2.oh sorry--285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average(floor) area occupied by Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
pl note i refer to floor area,not land area
Even the current Plot Ratio of HDB not more than 3.5.
Thats is 3.5 sq feet of floor area on 1 sq ft of land.
Check other countries multi story plot ratio.
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What multistorey plot ratio?Originally posted by lionnoisy:Originally posted by lionnoisy:
285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average area occupied by
Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
2.oh sorry--285 SQ FT OR 26.5 sq meter is the average(floor) area occupied by Singapore public housing HDB occupant.
pl note i refer to floor area,not land area
Even the current Plot Ratio of HDB not more than 3.5.
Thats is 3.5 sq feet of floor area on 1 sq ft of land.
Check other countries multi story plot ratio.
Alot of land in Australia ....some more freehold in all states and territories except for Australian Capital territory. Got land , got your own big garden and trees etc if you want to move to the suburbs. And you can pass your property down to future generations with no 99 year lease date. -
I would say, what multi-storey plot ratio? Being the 4th highest in population density... How many other cities are there with a higher multi-storey plot ratio?Originally posted by fymk:What multistorey plot ratio?
Alot of land in Australia ....some more freehold in all states and territories except for Australian Capital territory. Got land , got your own big garden and trees etc if you want to move to the suburbs. And you can pass your property down to future generations with no 99 year lease date. -
Fymk, can I consult you, I have an RMIT degree taken in SIM (construction mgmt) and I am above 45, is there any chance I can migrate to Aus, and how to look for job there , pls reply thanksOriginally posted by fymk:What multistorey plot ratio?
Alot of land in Australia ....some more freehold in all states and territories except for Australian Capital territory. Got land , got your own big garden and trees etc if you want to move to the suburbs. And you can pass your property down to future generations with no 99 year lease date. -
I am not a migration agent and I can't say whether you have a chance or not. That is for the Department of Immigration and Citizenship to decide.Originally posted by t_a_s:Fymk, can I consult you, I have an RMIT degree taken in SIM (construction mgmt) and I am above 45, is there any chance I can migrate to Aus, and how to look for job there , pls reply thanks -
Well Singapore can compare to Hongkong .Originally posted by eagle:I would say, what multi-storey plot ratio? Being the 4th highest in population density... How many other cities are there with a higher multi-storey plot ratio?
But compare to Australia and other bigger countries, Lionnoisy can't do that. -
Hong Kong property prices are more expensive. Their usable land area is actually rather small (near to that of Sg), with much land on slopes. Their population is 7 plus million... => might be the reason why sg govt want to raise sg populationOriginally posted by fymk:Well Singapore can compare to Hongkong .
But compare to Australia and other bigger countries, Lionnoisy can't do that. -
Probably.Originally posted by eagle:Hong Kong property prices are more expensive. Their usable land area is actually rather small (near to that of Sg), with much land on slopes. Their population is 7 plus million... => might be the reason why sg govt want to raise sg population -
many learned forumers here seem have been staying in Oz for some times.
can u tell me
1.Why they need to install security cameras in Victorian Taxi--http://www.dpc.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_Notes/newmedia.nsf/b0222c68d27626e2ca256c8c001a3d2d/9ed5d68b8aa5e09eca257337007f25a9!OpenDocument
2.New South Wales also do the same thing?--http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/nsw-taxi-drivers-afraid-to-work-at-night/2008/01/12/1199988630755.html...and mandatory security cameras in every taxi from March 1 in Sydney, Newcastle, Wollongong and the central Coast, and other areas from September 1''
security cameras in Taxi
To me.It seems the public order not so safe.
Pl tell me If i am bias....
