Will Iraq war end off as another vietnam war?
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Watched the soldiers fought by mel gibson movie,,quite sad.....
Will Iraq become next vietnam promoted by left wing worldwide?
Can we afford a vietnam in mid east? -
It is already similar to another Vietnam conflict n some of the coaliation troops
have started to withdraw their troops from Iraq, considering it is expensive
maintain troops in Iraq. -
I believe that the 'Vietnam' war is better
For now only
Due to increased levels of American troops
The real test is whether the lull would remain once the troop level is reduced to 'pre-surge' later this year
I believe that unless the Americans leave a completely
Politically, socially and economically stable Iraq
Arab countries would continue to exploit the situation to further their interests
And Iraq would be thrown into a worse conflict
With a spill over effect on the entire world -
USA didn't succeed in Iraq at all.
They cannot subjugate the Iraqis.
The Iraqis refuse to kowtow to the americans. -
After USA pulled out its troops from south vietnam in 1973, North Vietnam invaded the south two years later.
If USA eventually pulls out of Iraq, I hope that Syria can invade Iraq and unite the two together.
A stronger state in the region can maintain the balance of power better.
Iraq too weak, cannot protect its oil, got invaded by USA. -
Correction: They were an American puppet. When they refused to follow Washington's line, the Americans decided to subjugate them by force.Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:Iraq too weak, cannot protect its oil, got invaded by USA. -
Balance of power? Between which nations?Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:After USA pulled out its troops from south vietnam in 1973, North Vietnam invaded the south two years later.
If USA eventually pulls out of Iraq, I hope that Syria can invade Iraq and unite the two together.
A stronger state in the region can maintain the balance of power better.
Iraq too weak, cannot protect its oil, got invaded by USA.
Iran vs Iraq + Syria? or Iraq + Syria vs USA? -
When the US pulls out of Iraq, the country will plunge into a three-side civil war - sunnis, shias and the Kurds. All Muslims.
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Correction: They were an American puppet. When they refused to follow Washington's line, the Americans decided to subjugate them by force.
How was Iraq an American puppet?
P.S(Woot, 100th post)
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Who supplied the nerve gas used in the Iran-Iraq war?Originally posted by Timmay:
How was Iraq an American puppet?
P.S(Woot, 100th post)
Who held a grudge against Tehran for its role in the Iranian hostage crisis that followed the Islamic Revolution? -
According to Iraq's report to the UN, the know-how and material for developing chemical weapons were obtained from the United States, West Germany, the United Kingdom, France and the People's Republic of China.
In December 2002, Iraq's 1,200 page Weapons Declaration revealed a list of Eastern and Western corporations and countries, as well as individuals, that exported a total of 17,602 tons of chemical precursors to Iraq in the past two decades. By far, the largest suppliers of precursors for chemical weapons production were in Singapore (4,515 tons), the Netherlands (4,261 tons), Egypt (2,400 tons), India (2,343 tons), and Federal Republic of Germany (1,027 tons). One Indian company, Exomet Plastics (now part of EPC Industrie) sent 2,292 tons of precursor chemicals to Iraq. The Kim Al-Khaleej firm, located in Singapore and affiliated to United Arab Emirates, supplied more than 4,500 tons of VX, sarin, and mustard gas precursors and production equipment to Iraq.
According to Iraq's declarations, it had procured 340 pieces of equipment used for the production of chemical weapons. More than half came from a US firm via a German company, the remainder mostly from France, Spain, and Austria.
In addition, Iraq declared that it imported more than 200,000 munitions made for delivering chemicals, 75,000 came from Italy, 57,500 from Spain, 45,000 from China, and 28,500 from Egypt
It was business. Iraq wanted to buy , suppliers provided. It was the Iraqis that manufactured the chemical weapons and used it.
The treaty to ban chemical weapons was signed later, 1997, I think.
The ban does not include the chemical precursors which can be used for something else. -
Iraq was the ally of USA before it invaded Kuwait.
Saddam Hussein worked with the CIA many times in his career.
The Ba'ath Party also secured its rule in Iraq with the help of the CIA, that is why some people call Saddam an american stooge.
But after the cold war ended, the USA found Saddam no longer useful and they dumped him and started the anti-Iraqi propaganda.
The Taleban, Iranian mullahs, etc, all these groups were all sponsored by the USA.
Don't be naive.
That is why when I see propaganda talking about USA fighting Islamists, I cannot help but laugh. They are all in cahoots.
See:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saddam/interviews/aburish.html -
Balance of power? Between which nations?
Putin says that Iraq is small country, which holds enormous oil reserves, but is hardly capable of protecting itself.
Iran vs Iraq + Syria? or Iraq + Syria vs USA?
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071018/84434501.html
So I think Syria federated with Iraq can balance Iran or Turkey.
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Syria who are known to harbour and support terrorists? r u out of your mind? n u think USA would stand by and let the invasion take place? only thing Syria would wanna invade Iraq is for its oil... nothing 'brotherly' about that..Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:After USA pulled out its troops from south vietnam in 1973, North Vietnam invaded the south two years later.
If USA eventually pulls out of Iraq, I hope that Syria can invade Iraq and unite the two together.
A stronger state in the region can maintain the balance of power better.
Iraq too weak, cannot protect its oil, got invaded by USA. -
Syria who are known to harbour and support terrorists?
Why the US granted 'protected' status to Iranian terrorists
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0729/p07s01-wome.html
"Is Posada Still Working for the White House?"
http://www.counterpunch.org/allard04192005.html -
When the US pulls out of Iraq, the country will plunge into a three-side civil war - sunnis, shias and the Kurds. All Muslims.
The Myth of Sectarian Violence in Iraq
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/73103/?page=entire -
Nice try to ‘reunite’ the sects.
Since the 1980's, the Baath Government reportedly attempted to eliminate the senior Shi'a religious leadership (the Mirjaiyat) through killings, disappearances, and summary executions.
Jordan's King Abdullah II accused Iran of planning a sinister scheme to employ tactics of intimidation, bribery and militia training of sectarian elements throughout the Middle East, in order to create instability among rival Moslem factions. The king warned that Iran's quest toward empowering a "Shiite Crescent" stretching from Iran to Lebanon, would initiate the strategic dominance of Shiite power throughout the Middle East.
But these days, the escalating sectarian violence among Moslem brethren are clearly bearing out the Monarch's predictions in a unprecedented internecine bloodbath reaching from Iraq to Gaza, via Beirut- all fueled by Iranian fingerprints.
The hurried rise of hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has certainly served to strengthen that resolve. In recent years, the "republic" has brazenly broadened its influence in Iraq, Lebanon, and in Gaza. Needless to say, the recent expansion of Shia forces in the region has caused the Saudi royal family much deserved anxiety.
The Kurds - Kurdistan encompass as much as a third of Turkey, large parts of Iran and Iraq and a sliver of Syria.
The Kurds suffered two decades of persecution by the Saddam Hussein Regime.
Kurdistan is not a separate nation is due, in part, to its abundant natural resources: two of Iraq's major oil fields, rich agricultural land, minerals and the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.
In modern times, Syria, Turkey and Iraq have all tried to dilute Kurdish claims to a homeland through massive relocation programs.
The Kurds might forgive the Iraq's use of chemical weapons on them since Saddam Hussein is dead.
The Kurds dream of having their homeland but how are they going to make that happen? -
Poor kurds, they also kept getting betrayed by the USA.
A 16-year cycle of treachery
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/10/news/edking.php
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Are you not contradicting yourself?
First post a link to article The Myth of Sectarian Violence in Iraq and now posting links of two articles that indicates the shias and Kurds are not friendly with the sunnis?
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The article is talking about shias and sunnis sects, not kurds and arabs ethnic groups.