Outsourcing IT workers
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An example: In order to cut costs, a local company in Australia fires all its IT staff and then outsource its IT work to another company which provides all the IT workers that it brings in from Singapore, India, PRC. -
ooo, i am so afraid.
but i have more faith in the australian companies and govt here than all those mercenary SG govt and companies.
if you want to show your sg patriotism, please swear to all that u will stay in SG for the rest of your life. -
As we know,
we heard the saying that
if doon pay talents money many many,
they will not work for you and will work for whoever pays them more.
thus, based on this,
there is technically no reason to think of staying in 1 country for the rest of a person's life since no country prospers continuosly every year, taking USA and JAPAN and prime beef example.
thus, based on money-many-many ideology,
its prudent to these kind of people to plan for contingency.
always have a backup plan.
nebber place your eggs only in 1 basket.
just as talents are welcomed to come here to roost,
the same ideology should apply to you, if you regard yourself any talent at all.
there are people who may like to think like an FT - go where there is money many many. even if your allegence and loyalty, if such a thing exist, is to mudderland country, you can still take up zen in other countrys for the sake of future. -
"more faith in the australian companies"?Originally posted by fishbuff:ooo, i am so afraid.
but i have more faith in the australian companies and govt here than all those mercenary SG govt and companies.
if you want to show your sg patriotism, please swear to all that u will stay in SG for the rest of your life.
tell you plain truth, if they dont lower their cost, their products cannot sell.
i know one person who started this type of out-sourcing contract base company and supply cheaper labor to big MNCs here in Singapore. He is living in a big bungalow now.
Well, someone will do it or has done it in Australia. Just that you dont know about it since you are living in the sub-urbs like a country pumpkin. -
since Singaporean's IT professionals are out of jobs and priced 1/3 to 1/2 that of an Australian IT professional, it makes sense to do IT outsourcing in Australia by supplying cheaper but equally qualified Singaporeans IT workers. -
"Have faith in Australian companies"? Read below and say it again
LONDON (Reuters) - Junior doctors face intense competition for specialist training posts this year, with 2.5 times mores applicants than jobs, the National Health Service said on Saturday.
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NHS Employers, the body which represents health trusts in England, said there were 9,000 posts for an estimated 23,000 applicants.
Health chiefs said the battle for places means only the best candidates will be selected, but the Conservatives said it highlighted the need for more posts.
"It is a good thing for patients that there is competition for jobs," Sian Thomas, of NHS Employers, the body responsible for employment in the health service, told the BBC.
British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates.
From Saturday, junior doctors will start to apply for the posts that allow them to train towards becoming a consultant or a family doctor.
Those who fail to win a place may seek a non-training job and reapply next year, look for work overseas or leave medicine.
Tory Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said: "Unless the government recognises the exceptional need for additional posts this year and in the next two years, we will see a new 'lost tribe' of doctors who fail to complete training."
The British Medical Association said it feared that the process could descend into a lottery.
"Trusts need to get their recruitment practices in order, and start preparing now to ensure that there is no unfairness, and no negative impact on patient care," said Ram Moorthy, who chairs its junior doctors' committee.
The BMA's chairman James Johnson quit last May after criticism from colleagues that he failed to convey doctors' anger over problems with last year's selection process.
(Reporting by Peter Griffiths) -
What's the point of training UK medical students? To compete for lower wages? Recruiting less expensive doctors from other countries causes problems:Originally posted by Daddy!!:"Have faith in Australian companies"? Read below and say it again
LONDON (Reuters) - Junior doctors face intense competition for specialist training posts this year, with 2.5 times mores applicants than jobs, the National Health Service said on Saturday.
(Advertisement)
NHS Employers, the body which represents health trusts in England, said there were 9,000 posts for an estimated 23,000 applicants.
Health chiefs said the battle for places means only the best candidates will be selected, but the Conservatives said it highlighted the need for more posts.
"It is a good thing for patients that there is competition for jobs," Sian Thomas, of NHS Employers, the body responsible for employment in the health service, told the BBC.
British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates.
From Saturday, junior doctors will start to apply for the posts that allow them to train towards becoming a consultant or a family doctor.
Those who fail to win a place may seek a non-training job and reapply next year, look for work overseas or leave medicine.
Tory Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said: "Unless the government recognises the exceptional need for additional posts this year and in the next two years, we will see a new 'lost tribe' of doctors who fail to complete training."
The British Medical Association said it feared that the process could descend into a lottery.
"Trusts need to get their recruitment practices in order, and start preparing now to ensure that there is no unfairness, and no negative impact on patient care," said Ram Moorthy, who chairs its junior doctors' committee.
The BMA's chairman James Johnson quit last May after criticism from colleagues that he failed to convey doctors' anger over problems with last year's selection process.
(Reporting by Peter Griffiths)
The motivation of the local doctors affected.
Countries where cheaper doctors are poached will suffer even worse health care standards.
Nobody give two f*cks about the people in the less developed countrie? -
*smack forehead*Originally posted by Daddy!!:since Singaporean's IT professionals are out of jobs and priced 1/3 to 1/2 that of an Australian IT professional, it makes sense to do IT outsourcing in Australia by supplying cheaper but equally qualified Singaporeans IT workers.
u never work in australia and u certainly have a myopic of everything that boiled down to the bottom dollar. the current govt import cheap foreigners so that the businessmen can even exploit the labour to earn bigger bucks while keeping the workers' wage low. and guess who are the one that are sandwiched in the middle?
pap is allowing almost anything nowaday without letting the sg people to speak out for themselves, soon, almost anyone can can sell someone for a quick buck too. -
i disagree. it is not about money that we left.Originally posted by reddressman:As we know,
we heard the saying that
if doon pay talents money many many,
they will not work for you and will work for whoever pays them more.
thus, based on this,
there is technically no reason to think of staying in 1 country for the rest of a person's life since no country prospers continuosly every year, taking USA and JAPAN and prime beef example.
thus, based on money-many-many ideology,
its prudent to these kind of people to plan for contingency.
always have a backup plan.
nebber place your eggs only in 1 basket.
just as talents are welcomed to come here to roost,
the same ideology should apply to you, if you regard yourself any talent at all.
there are people who may like to think like an FT - go where there is money many many. even if your allegence and loyalty, if such a thing exist, is to mudderland country, you can still take up zen in other countrys for the sake of future.
it is about how the govt treat the citizens and the lack of support for the people.
i earned a good salary in sg but seeing how pap treats the people, i know that eventually this black hearted party will expand it exploitation and control wider and wider.
it is "the goods get going while the going get good" -
for fear of my life,Originally posted by fishbuff:i disagree. it is not about money that we left.
it is about how the govt treat the citizens and the lack of support for the people.
i earned a good salary in sg but seeing how pap treats the people, i know that eventually this black hearted party will expand it exploitation and control wider and wider.
it is "the goods get going while the going get good"
i cannot say if I agree about the situation.
what I like to say is just,
they won because of some people who voted them.
by 'some' it can mean majority. of course in this case, 'some' means majority.
the people had full choice and they decided to go this way.
you may not liked this and exited. I symphatise with you.
wait for me. I am coming soon. -
welcome... welcome..Originally posted by reddressman:for fear of my life,
i cannot say if I agree about the situation.
what I like to say is just,
they won because of some people who voted them.
by 'some' it can mean majority. of course in this case, 'some' means majority.
the people had full choice and they decided to go this way.
you may not liked this and exited. I symphatise with you.
wait for me. I am coming soon.
another sporean wil be liberated. -
Actually you must know how the system works in Australia. In order for a company to employ foreigners , they have to prove that the people they are looking for are a) not found in Australia , b) in shortage in terms of experience and they must also prove that they don't have a choice.Originally posted by Daddy!!:An example: In order to cut costs, a local company in Australia fires all its IT staff and then outsource its IT work to another company which provides all the IT workers that it brings in from Singapore, India, PRC.
Most companies here prefer to employ australians because it is less of a hassle for them than to keep maintaining work permits . Even if there are foreigners inside the company - most senior staff was Australian citizens or permanent residents but more Australian citizens than permanent residents.
However larger companies can outsource in mass scale to India direct for telemarketing or technical support . That is circumvention of the regulations and there is alot of media hype about customers not being happy to deal with heavily accented indian workers.
However the preference for most aussie made and owned companies is to use another company which employs australians. They encourage people to buy australian made products , so who is to say that it doesn't work that way for the employment market? -
"British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates. "Originally posted by fymk:Actually you must know how the system works in Australia. In order for a company to employ foreigners , they have to prove that the people they are looking for are a) not found in Australia , b) in shortage in terms of experience and they must also prove that they don't have a choice.
Most companies here prefer to employ australians because it is less of a hassle for them than to keep maintaining work permits . Even if there are foreigners inside the company - most senior staff was Australian citizens or permanent residents but more Australian citizens than permanent residents.
However larger companies can outsource in mass scale to India direct for telemarketing or technical support . That is circumvention of the regulations and there is alot of media hype about customers not being happy to deal with heavily accented indian workers.
However the preference for most aussie made and owned companies is to use another company which employs australians. They encourage people to buy australian made products , so who is to say that it doesn't work that way for the employment market?
I thought priority is given to locals? Well, that has changed.
"British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates. " -
There is always a gap in supply and demand.
If the country is short of doctors, schools would increase intake to train more.
Meanwhile foreign doctors would cover the shortfall.
I suspect they attracted the foreign doctors by offering them citizenship and now they are (rightfully) protected by the law, resulting in an oversupply when the locals graduate. -
how come the TS has changed the topic to UK's medical doctors? stick to the topic, please!
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Originally posted by Daddy!!:
That's UK , not Australia. Different country dude.
"British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates. "
[b]I thought priority is given to locals? Well, that has changed.
"British-trained doctors face competition from overseas doctors working in the NHS after the appeal court rejected government attempts to give priority to UK graduates. "[/b] -
hi.daddy.
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Australia is second class of UK.
So? Who is your head of state? -
I'm just waiting for LKY to move on and see how
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Huh?
Now UK and Australia is considered one country?
When did this happen? -
that's normal
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Australia is an independent country within the commonwealth realm which does not need to support the Queen financially like the british do.Originally posted by Daddy!!:Australia is second class of UK.
So? Who is your head of state?
Incidentally the Commonwealth realm also includes Canada, New Zealand, Jamaica and other countries , all independent but choose to save money by recognising the Queen .
So are you calling Canada, New Zealand , Jamaica etc second class of UK?
I say it's cleverer to let the british do the primary support of the Queen than the rest of the Commonwealth Realms. Free ...don't want ah? -
Does the laws in UK apply to Australia too?
Does the taxes imposed in UK apply to Australia too?
Hmmm..... -
Australia has British heritage. They were British prisoners at the beginning.
What happened in London has a good chance of it occurring in Australia. Just a matter of time. -
Canada also had british heritage ....and a french problem.Originally posted by Daddy!!:Australia has British heritage. They were British prisoners at the beginning.
What happened in London has a good chance of it occurring in Australia. Just a matter of time.
What happens to london has happened to Singapore already.
So really , keep the UK stuff out of Australia unless you want to give a sense of being ignorant . Australia is a sovereign nation like Canada is.