8 Thai Soldiers Killed by Suspected Muslim Insurgents
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Personally, I hate them. Not because they are muslims, but due to the fact that they kill innocent people!Originally posted by googoomuck:Should I believe you or believe the terrorists?
Let's hear you condemn the acts of these Muslim terrorists.
Furthermore, suicidal bombing. One major rule in Islam is that one should not take their own live or others. Either way killing ownself or killing others is a sin in islam...
In islam, taking own life is a sin that could not be forgiven for.
So these suicide bombers, they use religion as an excuse, is definitely, ridiculous. And yes I do condemn the terrorist, not just muslim terrorist, its any terrorist that uses violence and inflict fear to others...
I believe that these islamic terrorist have been blinded to violence by someone influencial and uses religion as excuse to execute the actions for whatever motives they have. -
i can see your points ... but why most of these are muslim? from middle east, indonesia, thailand south, terrorists in England, pakistan, etcOriginally posted by Icemoon:I'm sure they do not condone the act.
But then ask yourself, why do such things happen? Is it because the terrorists have nothing better to do? -
not Islam's fault....Originally posted by happieman:i can see your points ... but why most of these are muslim? from middle east, indonesia, thailand south, terrorists in England, pakistan, etc
the fault lies with the people practising it......
blame the ppl.. not religion. -
I agree...Originally posted by mhcampboy:not Islam's fault....
the fault lies with the people practising it......
blame the ppl.. not religion. -
yes i agree with you on this and make no defense for itOriginally posted by Pitot:Then why target the monks also?
in the Islamic conduct for war, the killing of sage (can be interpreted as monks), trees, plants, animals, elderly, women, destroying of food (used by civilians) and poisoning of wells (used by civilians) is prohibited
those who kill monks (sage) are wrong and cowardly. -
agreed with you on the religion part..Originally posted by mhcampboy:not Islam's fault....
the fault lies with the people practising it......
blame the ppl.. not religion.
the question is why most of them are muslim ? -
I believe it's the person of influence in a certain countries like arab, indone etc... Not all r like that, maybe someone who is of great influence who's motivating these people to violence, thus the wrong kind of teachings.Originally posted by happieman:agreed with you on the religion part..
the question is why most of them are muslim ?
e.g. osama bin laden... I dislike him and many others too dislike him. However there are also his followers that will do his biddings for him. -
If you are talking abou religious psychology, then I'd think out of all the major religions, christians and muslims are not known to be tolerative, nonwithstanding what their Scripture is teaching.Originally posted by happieman:i can see your points ... but why most of these are muslim? from middle east, indonesia, thailand south, terrorists in England, pakistan, etc -
political situation plays a big part in it.... oil.. land... conflicts...Originally posted by happieman:agreed with you on the religion part..
the question is why most of them are muslim ? -
do you think then educational approach should be used for these religions ? so as to be more tolerative to other religions ?Originally posted by Icemoon:If you are talking abou religious psychology, then I'd think out of all the major religions, christians and muslims are not known to be tolerative, nonwithstanding what their Scripture is teaching. -
agree with you ...Originally posted by mhcampboy:political situation plays a big part in it.... oil.. land... conflicts...
but again ... why then these issues affect muslim from many parts of the world .. and not other religions ? -
are you a muslim ?Originally posted by huzane89:Personally, I hate them. Not because they are muslims, but due to the fact that they kill innocent people!
Furthermore, suicidal bombing. One major rule in Islam is that one should not take their own live or others. Either way killing ownself or killing others is a sin in islam...
In islam, taking own life is a sin that could not be forgiven for.
So these suicide bombers, they use religion as an excuse, is definitely, ridiculous. And yes I do condemn the terrorist, not just muslim terrorist, its any terrorist that uses violence and inflict fear to others...
I believe that these islamic terrorist have been blinded to violence by someone influencial and uses religion as excuse to execute the actions for whatever motives they have. -
becos.. majority of oil comes from muslim nations...Originally posted by happieman:agree with you ...
but again ... why then these issues affect muslim from many parts of the world .. and not other religions ? -
make senseOriginally posted by mhcampboy:becos.. majority of oil comes from muslim nations... -
Pattani got what oil? They just want their land to be free again and that has become a religion for the young Pattanis.Originally posted by happieman:make sense -
The Muslim terrorists did not hide the fact that they are using the religion as a reason to justify their actions.Originally posted by huzane89:Personally, I hate them. Not because they are muslims, but due to the fact that they kill innocent people!
Furthermore, suicidal bombing. One major rule in Islam is that one should not take their own live or others. Either way killing ownself or killing others is a sin in islam...
In islam, taking own life is a sin that could not be forgiven for.
So these suicide bombers, they use religion as an excuse, is definitely, ridiculous. And yes I do condemn the terrorist, not just muslim terrorist, its any terrorist that uses violence and inflict fear to others...
I believe that these islamic terrorist have been blinded to violence by someone influencial and uses religion as excuse to execute the actions for whatever motives they have.
Their actions are sanctified by influential clerics or imams because they understand the quran very well. They are Arabs or other muslims trained by the Arabs. Among them are lawyers and well educated Muslims. You can't expect people to believe that they have been misled.
You have not been studying in depth the quran and hadiths and other books written by Muslims scholars. -
these are talented people
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during the qin dynasty of china.... when there is such a suicide attack on the emperor...
the emperor would give the order to massacre every civilian and animals within a 3 mile radius from the incident.
the idea is not to kill the assassins... but to show the assassins and those supporting the assassins... that innocent people (the very people these assassins are supposed to be fighting for) will pay the price for their bravado.
remember 9-11?
in modern times... the method has evolved.... for the bravado of a few followers of islam... USA makes it clear... the consequences by bombing and subsequently occupying iraq and afganistan....
i believe there is little need for me to bring out the number of muslims including innocents who had been made to pay the ultimate price...for the bravado of the few....
and needless to say.... when was the last time the USA homeland was attacked after the 9-11? i believe the message has been well recieved.... by you know who....
many people naively believe the reason is oil... but usa hardly import any oil from the middle east.... most of the oil used in america is either from canada or south america... america has oil too..
surely... the british oil is closer to america then middle east oil.... -
so if oil is not the reason .... then back to my question ..Originally posted by tripwire:during the qin dynasty of china.... when there is such a suicide attack on the emperor...
the emperor would give the order to massacre every civilian and animals within a 3 mile radius from the incident.
the idea is not to kill the assassins... but to show the assassins and those supporting the assassins... that innocent people (the very people these assassins are supposed to be fighting for) will pay the price for their bravado.
remember 9-11?
in modern times... the method has evolved.... for the bravado of a few followers of islam... USA makes it clear... the consequences by bombing and subsequently occupying iraq and afganistan....
i believe there is little need for me to bring out the number of muslims including innocents who had been made to pay the ultimate price...for the bravado of the few....
and needless to say.... when was the last time the USA homeland was attacked after the 9-11? i believe the message has been well recieved.... by you know who....
many people naively believe the reason is oil... but usa hardly import any oil from the middle east.... most of the oil used in america is either from canada or south america... america has oil too..
surely... the british oil is closer to america then middle east oil....
why do most of the terrorists are muslim? and not other religions? -
terrorism happens all over the world. sri lanka seperatist, FARC seperatist, palestine seperatist, Columbian rebels fighting for autonomous region, Maoist rebels in nepal, Basque rebel bombing in Spain - all these have performed terrorists acts and were in the headlines last year.Originally posted by happieman:so if oil is not the reason .... then back to my question ..
why do most of the terrorists are muslim? and not other religions?
pls prove, by quoting statistics or other tangible evidence, that most terrorists are muslims - as according to you. -
pls do not get me wrong, i have many muslim or malay friends.. and i know this is a sensitive issue. i just want to use the forum to clear my doubts. that's all.Originally posted by faroukalhadad:terrorism happens all over the world. sri lanka seperatist, FARC seperatist, palestine seperatist, Columbian rebels fighting for autonomous region, Maoist rebels in nepal, Basque rebel bombing in Spain - all these have performed terrorists acts and were in the headlines last year.
pls prove, by quoting statistics or other tangible evidence, that most terrorists are muslims - as according to you.
me or many of my friends have the impression abt the majority of the terrorists are muslims. the rational why i quoted this statement as to your question above:-
how many maoist rebels in the world (plus length of history) vs. muslim terrorists in the world ? (in term of world regions and lenght of time)
same to columbian rebels vs. muslim terrorists ..
same to basque rebel bombing vs. muslim terrorist attacks ..
just by comparing anyone of the non-muslim terrorists you have mentioned vs. muslim terrorists, you can see my rational ..
i am not biased against anyone, just that this is a very common impression of any non-muslim but not asked or told since it is sensitive. -
Self-criticism in Arab media follows school siege
Al-Arabiya GM: Muslims are main perpetrators of terrorism
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CAIRO, Egypt - Muslims worldwide are the main perpetrators of terrorism, a humiliating and painful truth that must be acknowledged, a prominent Arab writer and television executive wrote Saturday, as Middle East media and officials expressed horror at the bloody rebel siege of a Russian school. -
Originally posted by googoomuck:
Thank you for your quote but what you have given is just someone's opinion.
Self-criticism in Arab media follows school siege
Al-Arabiya GM: Muslims are main perpetrators of terrorism
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CAIRO, Egypt - [b]Muslims worldwide are the main perpetrators of terrorism, a humiliating and painful truth that must be acknowledged, a prominent Arab writer and television executive wrote Saturday, as Middle East media and officials expressed horror at the bloody rebel siege of a Russian school.
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Similarly i can paste someone's opinion here to say that Tamil Tigers are the main perpetrators of terrorism last year - but can i prove it?
wat we need is hard statistics.
anyone can have an opinion. -
faroukalhadad, you have not reply my previous message ... is also considered as a gd statistics.. will appreciate thatOriginally posted by faroukalhadad:Thank you for your quote but what you have given is just someone's opinion.
Similarly i can paste someone's opinion here to say that Tamil Tigers are the main perpetrators of terrorism last year - but can i prove it?
wat we need is hard statistics.
anyone can have an opinion. -
dear sir,Originally posted by happieman:faroukalhadad, you have not reply my previous message ... is also considered as a gd statistics.. will appreciate that
i find it berating that you have not replied to my request for tangible proof of your statement that "most terrorists are muslims" but yet expect a reply to another additional question on top of that instead.
making statements such as "most terrorists are muslims" are hate-inciting in nature in the context of a multi-religious society like Singapore, and the person making such statements must quantify it with evidence.