Can SG copy Israel 6 day war miracle?
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I wonder who will remember one of the most important events in modern Jewish history? I am afraid that for most of the Jewish world, yet alone the non-Jewish world,this calendar date will lapse with barely a blink.
In Israel, events are marked by their Hebrew calendar date, and this year, the anniversaryof the Six Day War comes out on May 15th, one day following the historic May 14th,1948 date of Israel's creation. This is significant only because in the Arab worldand for Arab student organizations on university campuses across America, May 14this commemorated as the "Catastrophe Day". At many universities, there will be a week-longseries of fiery anti-Israel speeches along with heated anti-Israel marches and vulgarityscreaming anti-Israel demonstrations.
In contrast, in Jerusalem, the celebration for the "The Day of Jerusalem" markingthe fortieth anniversary of the 1967 - Six Day War and the reunification of Jerusalemis commemorated by one of the most beautiful and moving ceremonies one can imagine. The main streets of Jerusalem's center city are closed to traffic. Tens of thousandsof young and old fill the streets briskly waving hundreds of full size Israeli flags,and musicians are posed every few blocks with loud speakers filling the air withtheir songs. As the musicians play popular Jewish melodies, the streets become adance stage for well choreographed circle dances and line dances -- each song withits own special dance steps. The joyous group singing on the street and the intensecommunity dancing is a unique sight. Following the hours of this street event a communitysinging march to Jerusalem's Old City begins. The march proceeds through the OldCity's ancient gates and cobblestone streets leading to the Western Wall - KotelPlaza. It is estimated that several thousands of people file through the Old City'spicturesque and narrow passageways to join in the hours of singing, dancing, andspeeches commemorating the Jewish return to a united Jerusalem.
In Jewish tradition, the number 40 has its own significance. It often refers to astage of maturation and accomplishment. The biblical Flood rains stopped after 40days, Moses was 40 when he confronted the Egyptian taskmaster, Moses was 80 whenhe confronted Pharaoh. The Jews were in the desert for 40 years prior to enteringthe Land of Israel, Rabbi Akiba was 40 when he began his study of Torah, and 40 isthe number of weeks leading to human birth. And now, this forty years of Jerusalem'sunification is a monumental and historic moment marking the miraculous victoriousSix Day War.
1967 was quite a different time. Israel had yet to reach its 20th anniversary. Ithad already experienced two wars. One, upon its creation, by neighbors who demandedthat the nascent state be destroyed immediately and the second war, eight years later,when its neighbors decided to cut off and strangulate Israel's supply lines.
Prior to 1967, relatively few American Jews even expressed an interest to visit Israel.Israel's first decades watched an immigrant absorbing country developed at a slowand struggling pace. With minimal resources, Israel invested in military protectionknowing that its Arab neighbors were preparing for another attempt to destroy it.During the 1960's, international support for Israel was tenuous at best. Israel'sneighbors were actively buying the most sophisticated weapons available. The worldknew this but continued to make it difficult for Israel to compete. Prior to 1967,the volume of belligerence and anti-Israel hate speech from the Arab world was becomingmore and more deafening. Egypt's President Nassar made his intent clear to the world-- that Israel's days were numbered. The theme of pushing the Jews into the sea becamea steady crescendo on the Arab street. Time, Newsweek, and other publications reportedmilitary statistics comparing Israel's military strength to that of her threateningArab neighbors. Israel was heavily outnumbered and out-armed in every military category.The military comparison charts appeared as if an ant was being compared to an elephant.The American Jewish community, as well as much of the world, was bracing for the annihilation of the Jewish state. There was no imaginable way for Israel to survivethe sheer numbers and mighty force of the expected Arab attack without the militarysupport of the United Kingdom or America. But that super power support was not tobe found.
Once again, the Arabs cut off the supply lines to Israel, a clear act of war, andwithout hesitation, the leadership of Israel commanded the Israeli Defense Forcesto launch their attack.
Within hours, the entire Egyptian air force and all Egyptian air fields were disabled.In days of fighting, the vast number of Jordanian, Egyptian, and Syrian tanks becameuseless heaps of scrap metal. And then the Israeli forces entered the Old City ofJerusalem. After very costly and deadly hand to hand combat battles against theJordanian Old City soldiers, in shock and awe, the Israeli paratroopers found themselvesstanding victorious in front of the ancient Western Wall of the Temple Mount. The famous and emotional phrase spoken into the Israeli army radio transmitter was theannouncement, "Jerusalem is in our hands.
"The world had gone to bed envisioning that by the next morning Israel would havebeen wiped off the face of the map. The resulting news was quite different. In sixdays, the Sinai Desert, the Gaza Strip, the Jordan West Bank, the Golan Heights,Jerusalem's Old City, and its surrounding areas were fully under Israeli control. All of the menacing Arab armies had been destroyed or forced to retreat.West Point military analysts speak of the Six Day War as an inexplicable militaryvictory. "Miraculous" was the West Point officer's explanation for the Israeli DefenseForce's victory over what was believed to be impossible odds.In 1967, it was still okay for an army to achieve an absolute victory. Subsequentto that date, Israel has not been allowed to defeat its enemy. In future wars andconflicts Israel would unbelievably be pressured by world powers not to accomplisha full military victory, to neglect enemy aggressions, and to even provide the enemywith guns and ammunition.
1967 was a time that Israelis were not told that they are "tired of fighting andtired of winning battles". Jews at that time understood that when their enemy saysthat they are going to kill them, the enemy means what it says and Israel does notwait to be attacked.
During that time, no one believed that the enemy could be appeased or that, if victorious,the enemy would responsibly stop fighting at the original 1947 UN lines. It was understoodthroughout Israel that there was only one thing that the Arabs had hoped to achieve,and now after 40 years, that goal of the destruction of Israel has not been relinquished.Following 1967, respect for Israel and the Jews soared throughout the world. Slumberingand even non-identifying Jews began to proudly identify with the Jewish people andthe Jewish State. Israel had accomplished a victory of good over evil, and few inthe world had any doubt about it.Forty years is a time of great significance. It is a time of reflection and rebirth-- 1967 marked the rebirth of the Jewish people, their values, their mission, andtheir right to exist and to contribute to this world. World politics has tried toreframe this Jewish Israeli victory into a defeat, and it is up to us to preventhistory from being erased, eroded, or confused. The 1967 victory was a victory forhumankind. The lessons of that era have not changed and therefore must not be forgotten.
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Daryl Temkin, Ph.D. is the founder and director of the Israel Institute which isdevoted to teaching the historic and spiritual importance of Israel as well as presentingdiscussions concerning contemporary issues confronting the Jewish State and the MiddleEast. -
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I believe Israel will continue to exist cause G-d make a convenant that the children of israel will inherit that land and no one can take that away..AMEN
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I believe Israel will continue to exist cause G-d make a convenant that the children of israel will inherit that land
Not these jews:
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com
http://www.nkusa.org
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
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When I read the article, what I gathered was that Israel declared war and attacked a neighbor that was unprepared for war and won even though they were not as well equipped and now they celebrate that day.
Also that the writer is using this victory to impress upon people that this indicates they would win if they fought another war against the Arabs. -
Israel never declare war on those arab country, it was they who declare war on them, and obviously you never read what, is written in wiki and you want to commend about itOriginally posted by phil30k:When I read the article, what I gathered was that Israel declared war and attacked a neighbor that was unprepared for war and won even though they were not as well equipped and now they celebrate that day.
Also that the writer is using this victory to impress upon people that this indicates they would win if they fought another war against the Arabs.
Anyone of you, please at least, read up what is written in wiki -
Arabs... Need to rethink their combat strategies...
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
oh my god finklestein ! ....
[b]Finkelstein on the June 1967 war
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=1067
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see that book on the right ? .... that's typical of his crap ..... I tossed my copy away to the free box .... -
Think about it this way, if god is not with israel at all, do you think, israel will be able to survive till now, imagine being surrounded by all the arab country, and what those arab country have archived so far, suicide bombing, if those coward arab country never resort to suicide bombing, do you think, israel will build those damn wall to protect themselves!
What israel did is call, pre emptive strike, if your territory being surrounded by 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers, are you going to wait for them to attack you, then attack back ah?
For goodness sake, at least, use some of your common sense, and at least read up before commenting in a twit thread. -
"Once again, the Arabs cut off the supply lines to Israel, a clear act of war, andwithout hesitation, the leadership of Israel commanded the Israeli Defense Forcesto launch their attack."Originally posted by allentyb_v2.01:Israel never declare war on those arab country, it was they who declare war on them, and obviously you never read what, is written in wiki and you want to commend about it
Anyone of you, please at least, read up what is written in wiki
As I said, that was what I gathered from the article.
I'll go look at wiki too as you suggested.
Edited:
From wikipedia
"In response, on June 5, 1967, Israel launched what is commonly viewed as a pre-emptive attack[5] against Egypt's airforce." -
thing about the middle east conflict .... is that the arabs are superb at public relations ... and when teamed up with leftist liberals ...... can be very effective at swaying public opinion .... finklestein is typical of those chaps ... the ironic thing is that he's supposed to be a jew as well ....Originally posted by phil30k:"Once again, the Arabs cut off the supply lines to Israel, a clear act of war, andwithout hesitation, the leadership of Israel commanded the Israeli Defense Forcesto launch their attack."
As I said, that was what I gathered from the article.
I'll go look at wiki too as you suggested.
me ? ... I look at numbers .... when one side is outnumbered 300 to 1 .... it's clear to me who's the underdog ... -
Finklestein is one of the few thousand of self-hating Jews.Originally posted by Fatum:oh my god finklestein ! ....
see that book on the right ? .... that's typical of his crap ..... I tossed my copy away to the free box .... -
Dear Allentyb_v2.01,Originally posted by allentyb_v2.01:Think about it this way, if god is not with israel at all, do you think, israel will be able to survive till now, imagine being surrounded by all the arab country, and what those arab country have archived so far, suicide bombing, if those coward arab country never resort to suicide bombing, do you think, israel will build those damn wall to protect themselves!
What israel did is call, pre emptive strike, if your territory being surrounded by 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers, are you going to wait for them to attack you, then attack back ah?
For goodness sake, at least, use some of your common sense, and at least read up before commenting in a twit thread.
No one here has said that Israel wasn't justified in declaring the war.
While I appreciate your passion, it's a given that when you make an error of fact and then justify yourself by telling people to "use some of your common sense", you're not really helping yourself.
Passion can lead people to accomplish great things, but blind passion has the opposite result. -
After the end of cold war, liberal left is growing strong in USA college campus....in the 70's arafat was seen as radical terror leader but now he's seen as freedom fighter....saudi money pumping so much money in their universities and professors..u expect objective mid eastern ciriculum....wake up it;s EURABIA!
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I heard that Great britain is under pakistani radical siege with drug trafficking from afghanistan, they already won in UK without even firing the first canon shot..Originally posted by allentyb_v2.01:Think about it this way, if god is not with israel at all, do you think, israel will be able to survive till now, imagine being surrounded by all the arab country, and what those arab country have archived so far, suicide bombing, if those coward arab country never resort to suicide bombing, do you think, israel will build those damn wall to protect themselves!
What israel did is call, pre emptive strike, if your territory being surrounded by 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers, are you going to wait for them to attack you, then attack back ah?
For goodness sake, at least, use some of your common sense, and at least read up before commenting in a twit thread.
Israel will be further islolated once europe turn more islamic unlike the sixties with sympathy -
Did the Egyptians actually start the 1967 war, as Israel originally claimed?
“The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was ‘no threat of destruction’ but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could ‘exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.’...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: ‘In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.’“ Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”
Was the 1967 war defenisve?
“I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it.” Yitzhak Rabin, Israel’s Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68
Moshe Dayan posthumously speaks out on the Golan Heights
“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] ‘They didn’t even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.
And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.’” The New York Times, May 11, 1997
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#1967
WHO REALLY STARTED THE 1967 ARAB-ISRAELI WAR?
http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2007/06/who_really_star.php
Soviet Policy and the 1967 Arab-Israeli War
http://www.foia.cia.gov/cpe.asp
'The USS Liberty': America's Most Shameful Secret
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/
http://www.gtr5.com/ -
I think it's important to know that when the Arabs started the first Arab-Israeli war, the Arabs lost.
When the Israelis lauched the preemptive strike in the six-day war on three fronts, the Arabs lost.
When the Arabs launched a surprise attack in the Yom Kippur war on two fronts, the Arabs lost. -
Originally posted by Catknight:I heard that Great britain is under pakistani radical siege with drug trafficking from afghanistan, they already won in UK without even firing the first canon shot..
Israel will be further islolated once europe turn more islamic unlike the sixties with sympathy
You never even bother to do your research and still want to post this
the only two other country was indirectly involved in the war, was the american and the russia, britian was never in the picture, once again your post, only prove one thing, a kid trying too hard to engage in adult debate, grow more hair on your body before even attempt to debate -
It must be noted that jew is a raced and has strong history(thousand years) and tradition which boast their fighting spirit and survivability. Plus their strong religion and being corner in one side of middle-east solidify their stand against all enemies.
Just like Japanese being a pure race and has strong tradition and a decent long history. Their kamikaze acts show their great determination and pride of their country and history to fight to the last stand. The citizen know the country loves them and is willing to sacriface just like they die for their country. It just that USA is too strong. (Israel will fail too if fight against USA)
While Sg boast nothing of pure race and long history to cement their will to fight to the last men. With Sg gov thinking their local born citizen can be easily replaced by FT and oldies being forsaken as wastage to country resources. Who the hell will defend this land when encounter enemies attacked? The gov must show resolution to protect its country men before they repaid the act! -
you are the one who typed this and you still want to cover up your own folly by trying too hard to argueOriginally posted by phil30k:Dear Allentyb_v2.01,
No one here has said that Israel wasn't justified in declaring the war.
While I appreciate your passion, it's a given that when you make an error of fact and then justify yourself by telling people to "use some of your common sense", you're not really helping yourself.
Passion can lead people to accomplish great things, but blind passion has the opposite result.When I read the article, what I gathered was that Israel declared war and attacked a neighbor that was unprepared for war and won even though they were not as well equipped and now they celebrate that day.
I use my common sense, thats why i poised this question to you all, imagine 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers on the border, and they prevent any aid from coming from the sea,
Also that the writer is using this victory to impress upon people that this indicates they would win if they fought another war against the Arabs.
what do you think Israel will do, again it only prove one thing, you have nothing else to say,
This is what you miss out
n May 1967, Egypt expelled the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) from the Sinai Peninsula, which had been stationed there since 1957 (following the 1956 Sinai invasion by Israel), to provide a peace-keeping buffer zone. In reaction to Israeli-Syrian tensions
what egypt does in this manner during 1967, from my humble opinion, is an act of revenge,
If malaysia deployed their troops at our border, and then they claim, we don't have the intention to invade singapore at all, really you all never even bother to use common sense at all, i have only one conclusion for you twit out there, trying too hard to debate. Grow up lah,
P.S. phil30k, don't bother to explain, you already failed to read what is in the article already, grow up lah, one mistake you make in the thread is, israel declare war on the Egypt, wah you extremely smart ah, so full of common sense
wah your next sentence even more power - and attacked a neighbor that was unprepared for war (P.S. they assemble 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers)
Now who need more common sense,
The main reason why israel won the war is due to their superior air force, their pre emptive strike was on Egyptian Air Force -
Dear AllenOriginally posted by allentyb_v2.01:P.S. phil30k, don't bother to explain, you already failed to read what is in the article already, grow up lah, one mistake you make in the thread is, israel declare war on the Egypt, wah you extremely smart ah, so full of common sense
wah your next sentence even more power - and attacked a neighbor that was unprepared for war (P.S. they assemble 1000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers)
Now who need more common sense,
The main reason why israel won the war is due to their superior air force, their pre emptive strike was on Egyptian Air Force
You are entitled to your point of view. If you know of any sources which support it, I'd certainly read any that you direct me to.
Let's look at another example meanwhile. America declared war on Iraq, they called it a pre-emptive strike because they believed there were weapons of mass distruction there. To me, I think a pre-emptive strike indicates that America declared war first.
Out of respect to your wishes, I'll also stop responding to your posts on this thread unless you ask me for an opionion. -
Specifically, the 6-day war stemmed from Egypt's decision to expel United Nations troops from the Sinai peninsula and blockade Israel's port of Eilat, under international law a casus belli, or act of war, in addition to belligerent Arab threats to destroy Israel.
Much of the above could be traced to Soviet meddling and misinformation.
The Arab military plan was to provoke Israel to make the first strike. So, Israel made the first strike.
The Arabs underestimated the enemy. After the Israeli strike, the Arab airforce was crippled.
The mighty Arab Armies' fate was sealed. -
Read about how Britain, France and Israel formed a plot to attack Egypt and remove Nasser from power:
Suez Crisis: Operation Musketeer
http://www.historynet.com/wars_conflicts/20_21_century/3037501.html?page=1&c=y -
"History is always written by the victor, and the histories of the losing parties belong to the shrinking circle of those who were there."
The above quote was taken from one of the more interesting comdrs from WWII and bears relevance today.
~ Joachim Peiper, SS-Standartenführer, youngest regimental colonel in the Waffen-SS during WWII
The 6-day war has been written in two versions: one for the world, and one for arabs.
What is easily available to us is the version which indicates that Israel was a beleagued nation being squeezed economically and militarily by a gang iof arab bullies intent on 'wiping Israel off the map' (to quote ahmadinejad's infamous outburst).
That Israel launched a pre-emptive strike was a measure of self defence and so on.
Analysts have stressed in the aftermath that an Anwar Sadat-led Egypt was unlikely to have moved against Israel without provocation; that single act was required to get international backing. Morever, their only real ally, Syria, was less committed into an all out assault, their main interest only lying with the Golan Heights. The 3rd major player - Jordan was in an even less threatening position, with hesitant committment from their leaders regarding any attempt at war.
As for the arab version, i haven't managed to get a reliable copy, but i'm sure it will be a complete reverse of the above version - labelling Israel's strike a blatant act of war.