You want Sharia Law in Singapore...yes? No ?
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Archbishop of Canterbury says UK must accomodate to Muslim Law in some areas.
Dr Rowan Williams said the UK had to "face up to the fact" some citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
He said adopting parts of Islamic Sharia law could help social cohesion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7233335.stm
In the Singapore context, will adoption of Shariah Law help?
Sharia Law for Singapore.....yes/No ? vote, please.......so that our PM will know what our people are thinking if he happens to drop into this forum....
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It's a NO for me.
Reasons: How does one balance this out without infringing the beliefs and values of other religions? Where would social equity and equality lie?
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I will vote NO as well. I think the PAP did well in mixing the races together in Singapore instead of dividing them up. All races eat at the same place, go to the same schools etc. There is shall we say a more united front as Singaporeans instead of race. I'm a Singaporean who happens to be Chinese.... instead of a Chinese that is from Singapore.
PAP did well in bringing multi-racial SG together as One
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Errm we do have some parts of Syriah Law in Singapore don't we?
Some parts of the Singapore law apply to all. Other parts apply only to Muslims. Take for instance, non-Muslims wed under the provisions of the Women's Charter. Muslims don't. I stand corrected on this.
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Originally posted by onlooker123:
Errm we do have some parts of Syriah Law in Singapore don't we?
Some parts of the Singapore law apply to all. Other parts apply only to Muslims. Take for instance, non-Muslims wed under the provisions of the Women's Charter. Muslims don't. I stand corrected on this.
Islam was present in the region before Stamford Raffles. It is only right to give some recognition to it in Singapore. Besides the muslims I see in Singapore have modern and very tolerant views, rather than their conservative counterparts in the middle east.
However in the UK , Christianity and their local paganistic rites were there first. I don't see why they should incorporate syariah laws at all. If migrants want to go there, they have a right to keeping their religion and be free from religious persecution , AND at the same time be mindful of the culture and laws there. If they can't deal with it, they shouldn't migrate to the country at all. They should instead migrate to countries who share their views. -
No, PAP will say NO
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Ummm... guys...
In case you don't know, we already have Sharia Law in Singapore... ya know... with the Sharia court and everything...
http://app.syariahcourt.gov.sg/syariah/front-end/SYCHome_E.aspx
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Originally posted by MohamedF:
Ummm... guys...
In case you don't know, we already have Sharia Law in Singapore... ya know... with the Sharia court and everything...
http://app.syariahcourt.gov.sg/syariah/front-end/SYCHome_E.aspx
Only for divorce/marriage cases... nothing else...
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Originally posted by fymk:
Islam was present in the region before Stamford Raffles. It is only right to give some recognition to it in Singapore. Besides the muslims I see in Singapore have modern and very tolerant views, rather than their conservative counterparts in the middle east.
However in the UK , Christianity and their local paganistic rites were there first. I don't see why they should incorporate syariah laws at all. If migrants want to go there, they have a right to keeping their religion and be free from religious persecution , AND at the same time be mindful of the culture and laws there. If they can't deal with it, they shouldn't migrate to the country at all. They should instead migrate to countries who share their views.But Hinduism has been around this region way before Islam did....... Shouldn't recognition be given to hindu laws as well??.....
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:
Only for divorce/marriage cases... nothing else...
Actually, marriages and property...There's really no need for the other laws in Singapore coz the Penal code already took care of that...
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:
But Hinduism has been around this region way before Islam did....... Shouldn't recognition be given to hindu laws as well??.....
Only problem is their caste system which doesn't go well with the Constitution. Islam is about all men being equal but Hinduism - caste system .....too complicated.
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I agreed with fymk.
For Singapore context, I will give a resounding NO! I do know that Syriah Court is long established in Singapore and I hope its authority remains in Muslims' marriage, property affairs. If a Muslim and non-Muslim are to go to court over these issues, the case should be bring forward to a civil court.
In Britain context( and numerous other Western nations too), I seriously do not see any need to create a separate judicial system for the Muslims. All man is EQUAL under the laws. There is the principle for British laws, isnt it?
1) There are various contridictions between British civil laws and Syriah laws. For instance, a man can only marry one wife. All man is equal under the laws.
2) If you are in search for a better place to live, and people, out of kindness, take you in. You dun moved in and then demand this, demand that and take the kindess of the hosts for granted.
IMO, Britain should provide the environmnent of religious freedom without any discrimination. Moreover, if the Muslims need additional help, such as building of mosques, Britain should help lend her hand. Moreover, the concept of Syriah laws should not be allowed.
3) If Britain wants to create a Syriah court for Muslim, then she has to be fair and create other types of judicial systems to cater for other religions/ethnic groups. It shouldnt be a Muslims' prerogative only.
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While I believe it's not a good idea to have 2 laws in one country, I think there is a place for Shariah Law in Singapore.
An additional application I see may be a little like arbitration for contractual disputes where both parties have agreed in advance of signing a contract that in the event of a disagreement a settlement may be made by an arbitrator that both parties agree on, they may also have the option to have it arbitrated by a Shariah court in accordance with Shariah Law.
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Double edged sword, i guess. looking in the newspapers with regards to Malaysia and the conflicts they had when a muslim and non muslim are embroiled in court case. Their civil court always say that they had no jurisdiction when the case involves muslim or muslim religious issues, or that the syariah court seem more often than not to sentence in favour of the muslim, I say that it is not a god idea. Currently we do have a syariah court though. I remember it is in the same building as MCYS in thomson road.
End of the day, do we really need two laws for one country? nyah....
However, if when cases involves muslim religious issues or betweens muslims such as religious practices or marriage/divorce, then I wouldnt disagree that the syariah court be the abritor. After all, currently marriage and divorce of muslims are already under syariah court purview.
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:
But Hinduism has been around this region way before Islam did....... Shouldn't recognition be given to hindu laws as well??.....
not to mention animism....
i believe it depends on which laws we use......
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NO WAY!!!! I say juz stick to CIVIL LAW....